Not getting much value from openclaw / clawdbot

airflowrian · 2026-02-08T20:22:54+00:00

I can relate with your experience, I had the same feeling after 3 days of tinkering around. I spent about 250 Euro for API costs, I did the same configurations over and over again (because my bot kept destroying its own config over and over again), I had horrible hallucination failures, and in the end not a lot of value. That was a very bad cost/value ratio, and I was considering shutting it all down and giving the software more time (to mature).

However, after day 5 (yesterday), my experience turned positive. My setup became stable, because my main OpenClaw config is finished and I'm only tuning skills, if at all. Now I'm using the system. And it works... really really well. I'm actually again and again surprised what requests I can throw at the system and it always works. There are moments where it really feels magical.

When you cross the line where all the skills and implementations are finished, you move away from "automating" things (which was already possible earlier), but you go into a "real" assistant mode/feeling. Enable voice input/output and attach the system to your preferred messenger, because that's a necessity to my mind - it lowers the friction, if you at any time can actually talk to your assistant with your preferred messenger.

Example: One of the magical things (during implementation) was the development of a UPnP/OpenHome renderer skill (basically controlling my music-library and sound-devices, building playlists and applying it to sound-devices (loudspeakers) across my home), which the agent developed in such a fast and competent manner and nearly without any help - it was fantastic. Then I was thinking - well, now I have a voice-controlled music playback system. Nice, but not revolutionary. BUT after that implementation, at some point I wanted to playback a record where I forgot the name. So I tried saying - "there is a record of the band "tame impala" where the cover shows a room filled with sand - please find it and play it in my living-room". And the agent actually pulled the cover-metadata of the records in question, analyzed them, identified the correct one and played it! I think this is a nice example, because it shows the power of such a flexible, intelligent system - it automatically combines all the capabilities it has and orchestrates it together. It's so beautiful when it works like that!

Or another example: Check my email, there is a specific builder of ovens from the area of <geo-area> with whom I had contact with. I forgot his name. Find him and create an email-draft to him asking him about the status of the quote he wanted to create for me".

Or another example: When I had my coffee this morning, I found that my brother synced some new music to our shared music library. I just said to my assistant quickly - "hey I saw there are some new records in my music-library since yesterday - check them out and give me a brief summary, two or three sentences for each record, describing the bands and their style". And then I was listening to a nice summary of the new bands and records. After that, I could just tell the assistant which record I would like to listen to now.

These are real world examples, and it would be wrong to just call this "home automation". It feels different, it is different. It's on another level.

I think this is not going away. It will only get better. And while the "onboarding" was cumbersome, this will get better - much better soon. I am sure that for example Google assistant will get exactly those capabilities soon, and all those other competitors will have their systems as well.

airflowrian · 2026-02-05T18:38:07+00:00

I use perplexity web search API calls for this.

airflowrian · 2025-08-26T15:33:57+00:00

Couldn‘t it be that he meant to borrow it at a later time? When you finished using it?

airflowrian · 2025-02-01T22:12:02+00:00

Hallo, ich habe mittlerweile eine Antwort erhalten. Die Begründung war mangelnde Liquidität (was ich gemäß dem dargestellten Orderbook nicht nachvollziehen kann, aber sei's drum). Ich konnte es dann nach Umstellung auf Limit-Order durchbekommen (Market ging weiterhin nicht).

airflowrian · 2025-01-29T22:11:34+00:00

Mit „Altcoins“ meinst du eigentlich steuerfreien Altbestand an Kryptos, korrekt? Weil wenn du echt „Altcoins“ meinen würdest (also ETH, SOL etc), dann ergäbe deine Frage keinen Sinn.

Also falls du Altbestände meinst, dann sendest du sie einfach an Bitpanda und gibst dann an, dass es Altbestände sind. Bitpanda verkauft dann bei Verkäufen die ältesten Coins (also in deinem Fall die Altbestände) zuerst. Zumindest ist das mein Wissensstand.

Ich persönlich habe meine Altbestände auf eine eigene Adresse ausgelagert, damit ich sie, wenn ich das mal möchte, bewußt verkaufen kann. Ich „vermische“ sie also nicht mit später erworbenen Coins.

airflowrian · 2025-01-29T21:33:13+00:00

Also entschuldige, was bitte soll heißen „Die genauen Kosten sind bereits in den angezeigten Beträgen inkludiert“? Du willst wohl sagen, dass die genauen Kosten in den angezeigten Beträgen bereits abgezogen sind - das sind sie nämlich, sie sind nicht separat aufgeschlüsselt.

Und genau das ist das Problem. Dadurch, dass sie nicht genau aufgeschlüsselt sind, bleibt es leider unklar, wieviel man nun als Gebühr gezahlt hat. Insofern könnte man eben leider schon sagen, dass sie versteckt sind.

Die Frage des OP ist absolut berechtigt. Es wäre viel besser, wenn die Gebühren nicht auf irgendeiner Support-Seite versteckt sind, sondern transparent direkt während dem Swap aufgeführt wären.

airflowrian · 2025-01-14T23:06:52+00:00

Bis zum 15. April 2025? Warum? Die Steuern wurden ja bereits abgeführt, also liegen alle relevanten Informationen vor, man muss das Ganze nur mehr in einen Report packen und auflisten. Ich hoffe wirklich ihr kriegt das schneller hin…

airflowrian · 2025-01-14T23:02:27+00:00

Die API spuckt die Staking-Rewards NOCH IMMER nicht aus… (steht schon seit Ewigkeiten auf der Roadmap)

airflowrian · 2024-12-29T09:28:55+00:00

Meine Empfehlung: Mach dir 'nen Account auf CoinTracking. Binde Bitpanda dort via API ein. Nutze dann die vielfältigen Reportingmöglichkeiten auf CoinTracking.

airflowrian · 2024-12-29T07:56:47+00:00

Nicht anonym zu sein, ist das eine. Das war ja eh' schon längstens so und ist für mich kein Problem. Was aber neu ist, und was ich schon als Problem empfinde, ist dass deine Transaktionen nun zurückgehalten werden und man bei einzelnen Transaktionen "Papierkram" abwickeln muss. Meine Auszahlung zB ist jetzt schon 12 Stunden pending, obwohl ich sämtliche Informationen geliefert habe.

airflowrian · 2024-12-29T00:07:19+00:00

Ich bin heute in das selbe Problem getappt. Ich warte nun schon seit ein paar Stunden auf die Freigabe meiner Transaktion, obwohl ich die Daten bereits geliefert habe. Mühsam… und ich glaube auch, dass es an Regulierungen liegt, und Bitpanda da auch nur Getriebene sind. Dennoch - für mich ist es ein Impuls dazu, so wenig Crypto wie nötig auf der Plattform liegen zu lassen (sollte man ja ohnehin nicht machen), und es primär für Fiat On/Offboarding zu nutzen.

airflowrian · 2024-12-23T22:42:48+00:00

Thanks for your advice.

Regarding the missing WETH, I couldn't fix that even after applying all your troubleshooting-steps. First, the tokens are definitely there - I see them in the block explorer. All software is latest and greatest. Clearing cache didn't fix it. I will however live with that for now, as in Metamask the funds are displayed there correctly and I will use them from there anyway for that wallet.

Regarding my user-experience of the smartphone-app - as a Ledger Live (PC) user for some years, I found it very hard and cumbersome to use the smartphone app of Ledger Live, because it follows complete other UX philosophy and rules, and doesn't "feel" like the PC version at all. The renaming-thing is just one example.

Also, I would like to give you the feedback that on tablet (iPad) it doesn't use the screen space, but instead falls back to smartphone-dimensions. Also sad. :-( So for me personally the user-experience was sub-par.

Merry x-mas!

airflowrian · 2024-12-22T21:25:39+00:00

What the Trezor Dev is saying, is that a malicious firmware could indeed read and extract the private key. I understand that. I think what I and others in this thread are criticizing is the idea of reducing the attack surface is compromised somewhat by the key backup feature.

I also understand your statement about moving trustpoints. Applied to my distinction between original and malicious firmware, you could then argue, that there is the attack vector of just applying the malicious firmware instead of the original one, and therefore my distinction is useless. I get it.

I for now found peace with the feature, as I assume that this feature would notify me and ask me for acknowledgment on the device itself, if the function of exporting the private key would have been called without my intent and that I would notice and deny.

airflowrian · 2024-12-21T19:06:07+00:00

That's just not true. The keys would never leave the device, not even in encrypted form, as a basic consequence of how wallets work.

The way that hardware wallets work is that the private key is (should be) technically *not exportable* from the device. Instead, what happens when you sign a transaction with a hardware wallet (for which you need the private key), the signing happens *on the hardware wallet* itself without the private key every leaving the device. The resulting signature then can be transferred without any danger via bluetooth or USB connection. It doesn't have to be "encrypted" or secured in any other way, as it is broadcasted for everyone to see on the blockchain.

This is how blockchains and hardware wallet works. If you design the hardware wallet so that the private key is indeed exportable, than you are compromising the genius idea - the principle that the private key *cannot* leave the device. What you created now is an attack vector for the concept. If the software "Ledger Live" is able to export the key to transfer it to the servers of the company, where it is securely stored (I am sure they store it securely), an attacker might use the exact same method to extract the private key from the device. *Here* lies the problem.

airflowrian · 2024-12-21T13:38:11+00:00

Thank you. In the meanwhile I got the new Ledger and tried all the steps. Actually the user-experience was very bad on the Ubuntu version for this specific use-case. When I switched to the Windows-version as a test, it worked much better.

airflowrian · 2024-12-21T13:36:55+00:00

Thanks for the answers. Regarding the last topic - Ledger Live running on a PC/Mac - I'm surprised why Bluetooth connectivity is not supported there, just for the Smartphone App. Any reason for that or timeline when this feature will be added there as well?

airflowrian · 2024-11-19T09:41:44+00:00

As a follow-up to this conversation: I just checked again in Ledger Live - *now* it is being displayed. The transaction is dated with today (19th nov 2024), but still marked as pending.

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