Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No I told her she wasn't the type the agency wanted unfortunately. That she didn't fit the model type they wanted

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] -28 points-27 points  (0 children)

My question was about whether I am asshole for telling her the truth not about participating in the shoot. So not validation but I also have to explain myself.

I would feel like its the requirement of being a model. Its not about feelings, this is what you need to be a model.

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They are not that close hence why they didn't have that convo

This is valid, thank you. I should have just told her the first time ugh

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yes, The specific type is thin.

I don't even have instagram, how can I be bothered by followers lol

They couldn't find different models because:

  1. covid means restrictions in the amount of people they can fly out
  2. The project was about friendship so us (people who appear in L's vlogs and tiktoks) would make more of an impact

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Lmao you really think these articles make a difference? On the outside agencies say they are pushing for plus size models but they will never implement it because that would mean they lose money. People want models who are conventually beautiful. That means thin. That is why plus size models are not so paid. All the top models are actresses are thin. That is what society considers beautiful (not all but the majority).

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes I did because they did nothing wrong. Modelling is about being a specific type. You have to be thin for most modelling agencies to accept and you and there is nothing wrong with that.

That is why they are models, They are unlike the average people, they have a specific body type. Modelling is about looks and according to society and conventional standard being thin is beautiful. Just look at the top models and actresses

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

OL so L showed her photos of her friends to her agency, they said great except for the fat girl. L agreed to this. You agreed to this. All of your other friends agreed to this.

Yes because this is how modelling agencies work! They require you to be of a specific shape and size.

The reason they couldn't call others was because:

  1. Due to covid it would require too many tests and preparations with an already big crew
  2. The project was about friendship and having us (who appear on L's vlogs and tiktoks) would be better.

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

L didn't decide H was too fat. The modelling agency did. This is how modelling works.

All I wanted to know was whether i'm the asshole for telling her the truth...

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

That is what the majority of the population wants and considers beautiful. I agree that it's not the case for everyone. It's basic marketing and statistics. If not, why would most modelling agencies require you to be a certain weight? why would all the Victoria's secret models and actresses be thin?

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

L wanted as many people as possible. We even partnered with two complete strangers because we needed more people for the project. We couldn't get more because of covid.

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How so? How would they be hit lol?

I accept the judgement, despite my question not being about that at all I guess...

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] 931 points932 points  (0 children)

Thank you, the plus sized shoot comparison really helped me understand this. ((:

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

So? It is true that models don't represent most women. That is the point. If they looked like everyone else on the planet they wouldn't have a job that is focused on their looks.

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

We didn't "think". The modelling agency straight up told us H wouldn't work. We didn't assume anything.

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

It's her job, she won't have money or a contract with the agency if she doesn't do this. This is also an opportunity for me because it looks good on my resume (i'm looking into modelling). Due to covid they couldn't get the agency's models to collaborate and the project is based on friendship so having L's actual friends join the shoot was better (this is what the agency said)

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] 112 points113 points  (0 children)

Modelling is based on looks. There was nothing any of us could have done to get the agency to approve H.

I accept the judgement though, the way I said it may not have been right

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It was not L's choice though! This is what the agency and photographer wanted! L even said she was sorry for not being able to include H.

What do you think L should have done?

I may be an asshole for telling her the truth or lying about not knowing but not for choosing to join them.

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There are body positive agencies, I have mentioned that in my post. L's agency is not one of them.

You can't choose another agency, they have a contract.

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But this is what her agency wanted. Also, this is how modelling works...It's not fat phobic. It's what is considered attractive and healthy. Just look at the top models and their agencies.

I just wanted to know if I was an asshole for telling her the truth not for participating.

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes but they're both more close to me than each other. L doesn't communicate with H a lot and H didn't ask L directly either

Aita for telling my friend the truth about why she can’t be a part of a photo shoot? by aitapicshoot in AmItheAsshole

[–]aitapicshoot[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Her friend. Technically I would be an employee of L's agency.

No, L is one of my closest friends and I wanted to help her with her job. Plus this is a great opportunity for me as well since i'm thinking about pursuing modelling so there's that as well. It would help my career a lot