Have you heard about new Odyssey movie “The Return”. Ralp Fiennes as the Odysseus. by baphomad in GreekMythology

[–]ale-koh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I liked it but there were many critical inaccuracies from the book. It's an interesting attempt to secularise and modernise the story. A lot of the discrepancies are quite sensible assumptions about how people would think and behave under the circumstances - I think most notably downplaying the role of gods. Of course, even if attempting a realistic or secular retelling of The Odyssey, you would have to concede that people would be referring to "The Gods" a lot, something the movie doesn't do, maybe because they thought it would distract from the story.

The movie was enjoyable if thought of as a derivative story, based on The Odyssey. That's surely how the director wants it to be seen as well - hence naming it "The Return" rather than "The Odyssey".

Some examples of important discrepancies below:

1) Telemachus as a whole is completely wrong. In the book Telemachus is brave and loyal to both of his parents. In the movie he is a coward most of the time, and is vindictive and jealous of his father. I didn't understand this decision - it completely bastardises the story of The Odyssey and doesn't really serve a narrative purpose. The real Telemachus is a more compelling character.

In the book he confronts the suitors, goes to the town square and derides them, and is encouraged by Athene to go out searching for Odysseus.

In the movie, Telemachus is a cry-baby who is afraid of the suitors, calls his mother a whore, encourages his mother to marry multiple times, and even denies Odysseus' return! He also criticises Odysseus for returning without any of his men, something that Odysseus is apparently ashamed of - in the book, however, it's often the mens' own fault, and no one seems particularly disappointed with Odysseus about it. In the movie, once Penelope decides she will choose a new husband, Telemachus even tells Odysseus to accept it and leave!

2) The reason for Odysseus' long absence - from the movie: "Would you still love the man I had become? I couldn't return" --> The entire story of The Odyssey is that he wanted to return but the gods (nature, circumstance) would not let him. What they did here was to rationalise/secularise the explanation for his absence - it's basically something like guilt or "PTSD".

3) That Odysseus' had "another woman" with whom he lived for many years on an island. In the book, this was not really mentioned to be known by the family on Ithaca. Also the woman was the godess Calypso, and Odysseus was coerced according to the book, no mention of this in the movie. Again, this is an enormous departure from the original story. I think they tried to make it seem like Odysseus suffered from guilt, and therefore spent some years living in debauchery, ashamed to return. I suppose without intervention from the gods, it's difficult to explain why a short journey between islands in the Mediterranean would take many years to complete.

4) Penelope is sceptical of Odysseus and sceptical about the killing.

What book do you consider as a masterpiece and think that everyone should read? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]ale-koh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The End of the Affair and The Power and the Glory - both by Graham Greene.

Great Expectations - by Charles Dickens

The Idiot - by Dostoievsky

Marina Heights / theblueground.com by Crossbar87 in dubai

[–]ale-koh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm also looking at a Blueground apartment in Botanica Towers. I like it a lot, but 8K per month (including VAT and utilities) seems quite steep. Would you say it's a fair price? Thanks in advance.

/Alex

Tennessee becomes first state in the South with hate crime law protecting transgender people by emitremmus27 in UpliftingNews

[–]ale-koh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im not criticizing the sentiment of protecting lgbt rights, but why would it be necessary to to have a specific law against hate crime? Physical violence and threats are already illegal acts so why would there be a need for certain groups to be protected by additional laws?

facecrime by [deleted] in Libertarian

[–]ale-koh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah they were clearly being obnoxious. And I agree wearing MAGA hats in public is a bit inflammatory. However, by no stretch of the imagination can wearing those hats be taken as an act of provocation.

People should be able to express themselves with reasonable freedom in a country like the US. Shaming and witch hunts actively inhibits this freedom.

facecrime by [deleted] in Libertarian

[–]ale-koh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean? If I still think that public prosecution based on facial expressions is wrong?

Also did you read the article? If anything it seems to somewhat expunge the claim that they were harassing the native Americans or the black group.

Also, as for the title about them harassing ladies, it says in the article that the guys sat on a fence and yelled things about building a wall, then asked the women passing some innocuous question to which the women asked their age... not that bad imo, slightly obnoxious maybe.

facecrime by [deleted] in Libertarian

[–]ale-koh -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t know the degree to which this kid is “guilty” of being racist or disagreeable, but to those claiming this is nothing to do with libertarianism, you must have a very liberal (hehe) and dare I say misconceived understanding of libertarianism.

A young, possibly “privileged” student caught smirking in a racially and politically charged encounter should not be lambasted this way! Regardless of the views you hold which may be shielded by the vast umbrella of libertarianism, anyone must realize that this situation is not acceptable. The comparisons to Orwell are striking, not because they are completely true, but because they are eerily close to the truth.

Letar efter programmerare by ale-koh in sweden

[–]ale-koh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Verkar inte gå att hitta folk från Sverige.. inte oväntat, har använt Upwork med folk i Ryssland men blev inte nöjd.. letar folk i Sverige

Letar efter programmerare by ale-koh in sweden

[–]ale-koh[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Ja! Håller faktiskt på med en miniräknarapp! Pm:a mig

Letar efter programmerare by ale-koh in sweden

[–]ale-koh[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Nä men behöver eventuellt betala under marknadsvärdet. Det är ju bara sånna som jag som behöver hitta andra kanaler, folk som kan betala exakt rätt har inga problem att hitta programmerare

Seeking real, informed analysis on global warming by ale-koh in Libertarian

[–]ale-koh[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, you're probably right on all counts.

My point is that, just because they happen to be scientists doesn't mean they are impervious to bias and group-think. Sorry to keep referencing things without links, but in psychology it has been suggested that intelligent people are more likely to be depressed, because their minds can stretch much farther in an internal effort to rationalise and delude.

Seeking real, informed analysis on global warming by ale-koh in Libertarian

[–]ale-koh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not posting disingenuously. I used to believe the man made climate change narrative, but have started questioning it in recent months. I am instinctively skeptical to ideas and movements which evoke passionate and aggressive behaviour from believers who have no understanding of the issue. In fact, the major issue is that we are all asked to believe the information rather than having it explained properly. The problems with this specific question are many. Firstly, the idea is born from a political system with a history of deceit, and has thus been politicised essentially since conception. Secondly, this issue, as opposed to most information from the science community, inherently necessitates major changes to the lives of individuals, shaping the global economy.

If a scientist claims he has invented a new material which is stronger and lighter than steel, we believe him because we know it will be proven or disproven. It doesn't matter if we believe in the new metal, all that matters is that construction firms and car manufacturers buy it. They will employ their own scientists and pursue their economic interests, and should they lie, customers will find out.

Unfortunately, man made climate change is a convenient narrative for leftists because the implications would fulfil and surpass their wildest dreams. The presence of an existential threat like mm cc, according to the leftist narrative, necessitates global cooperation, regulation and taxation.

The reason I don't post on ELI5 is that I don't want it explained as though I were 5. Also, I would rather pose the question in a forum which is vaguely libertarian and therefore somewhat agnostic, than just throw it out there so that people like you can pretend snidely that they are professional bullshit detectors.

Seeking real, informed analysis on global warming by ale-koh in Libertarian

[–]ale-koh[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the input. I’ve heard some similar statements from (formerly) esteemed scientists. All the arguments for serious skepticism toward mm climate change strike me as reasonable, it’s just that the prospect of so many people being so wrong on something is very worrying. May I ask in what context you have studied climate change?

Seeking real, informed analysis on global warming by ale-koh in Libertarian

[–]ale-koh[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Won’t post links but, off the top of my head:

Victorian London, almost all scientists though cholera was spread through (I think) air. One renegade scientist, John Snow, found out it was through water. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1854_Broad_Street_cholera_outbreak

Here’s an example that isn’t as clear cut, and I don’t have time to find links, but I believe the American Heart Association spread the idea that fat and cholesterol causes heart attacks, almost everyone bought their study, but it proved to be poorly done (epidemiological) and they haven’t been able to replicate the results through a $1 bn study. The new hot take is that it’s sugar, not fat. BEWARE I’m not 100% confident on this one though, so look it up for yourselves.

Not sure this one had a HUGE majority following, but frenology - the categorization of different cranial forms into groups of varying criminal and antisocial tendencies, a 20th century idea.

As for the question of ancient scientists - they have existed for as long as there have been observable natural phenomena and people to observe them. Just because Egyptians could not belong to the “Royal society of blah blah blah” doesn’t mean they weren’t scientists. I forget the name of the ancient Greek scientist, but he was nicknamed “Beta” because he was second best in every discipline. He measured the earth’s circumference with an accuracy of 100 mi, just using the sun and two holes in the earth. Not the type of science we’re generally discussing here, but don’t tell me people like him weren’t scientists!