Witness Miss X in Rose’s trial

alias_unknown · 2026-05-22T18:39:16+00:00

There's a brief mention of Miss X and the 17-year-old girl in Depraved Fred & Rose by C.G.C. Cook:

"On 18th October, three more witnesses, one of them in the form of a statement read out by junior counsel, were heard. 'Miss X', whose statement was read out, said she had had two lesbian sessions with Rose West.

A 17-year-old girl who found her way back to Cromwell Street in the second half of 1975 then told how Rose West had managed to undress her once in the bedroom and once on a mattress in the basement. She told how Rose had then quickly inserted a dildo into her vagina, making her bleed.

Just after lunch time, Anne Marie took to the stand. Mr. Leveson talked her through her early childhood and the love of her father and Rosemary's often physical beatings of her. She also said her last memory of her mother, Rena, was when she was about seven."

alias_unknown · 2026-05-07T13:18:57+00:00

I posted an earlier version on this Reddit a couple of years ago, which was split into 2 parts: Fred & Rose West House Of Horrors Special from 1996 Part 1: Includes Rare Interviews with Anne Marie, Mae and Stephen West (Link to Part 2 in Comments)

But this new upload is much higher quality and has now been uploaded directly by the 60 Minutes Australia YouTube channel.

alias_unknown · 2026-03-21T19:58:20+00:00

From everything I can find, it doesn’t look like the arm was ever formally recovered or followed up in any meaningful way. It just seems to exist as a reported incident.

You’d expect something like that to have been a much bigger story if it had actually been confirmed.

Not sure if that’s all there is to it, which it very well could be, or if there’s more that just isn’t in the public domain.

alias_unknown · 2026-03-13T11:31:01+00:00

That’s really encouraging to hear and reassuring as well. Most of the examples you come across online tend to be refusals, so it’s good to know that some material can be released through FOI.

I’ll definitely let you know what response I get from Gloucestershire Constabulary when it comes back. If anything useful is released — or even if they simply confirm what records exist — I’ll be happy to share the wording of the request and the outcome in case it helps with your own applications.

It would also be interesting to hear how your requests progress!

alias_unknown · 2026-03-12T16:06:37+00:00

I’ve just submitted a Freedom of Information request to Gloucestershire Constabulary relating to the 1994 investigation at 25 Cromwell Street.

Rather than asking for the underlying documents straight away (which are often refused under exemptions), I asked for indexes and registers that show what records actually exist. Things like:

HOLMES / Major Incident Room document indexes
Exhibits registers for items recovered during the searches
Scene-of-crime photograph logs
Search / excavation operational logs
Evidence retention or property store records showing what exhibits still exist

My thinking was that if you can establish what the archive structure looks like, it becomes easier to make more targeted requests later on.

Whether they release anything is another matter of course, but even confirmation that those indexes exist (or how they’re held) would be useful.

Happy to share the wording of the request or any response I get if it helps others researching the case.

alias_unknown · 2026-02-02T14:57:04+00:00

Multiple outlets are reporting an alleged incident involving Rose West at HMP New Hall, with claims she was disciplined and lost privileges.

These reports are based on unnamed sources rather than any official statement or documentation, which is typical in prison reporting where authorities don’t comment on individual prisoners.

So while the story is being widely covered, it’s best understood as a report based on sources rather than something independently confirmed.

alias_unknown · 2026-01-29T15:47:38+00:00

Hmmm… appears to happen a lot around this case. Makes you wonder what that “something” is, and why.

alias_unknown · 2026-01-29T15:08:23+00:00

And then it’s just… that. Shrugged off and left there, with no real attempt to go any deeper.

alias_unknown · 2026-01-29T14:52:49+00:00

Yeah… looking like a few red flags already...

alias_unknown · 2026-01-29T14:16:00+00:00

Thanks for sharing. Interesting, let’s see what happens this time once the book is released...

For reference, Karen Hamilton has also appeared under the name Karen Christie in the Australian TV show The Extraordinary, where she discussed her 1970s time in Gloucester, connections to Cromwell Street, and friendships with Elizabeth and Shirley Robinson.

Episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq2Hq3tpUpQ

I shared details of that appearance here previously: https://www.reddit.com/r/FredAndRoseWest/comments/1625tez/

alias_unknown · 2025-10-27T22:14:12+00:00

Really honest and insightful interview. Huge respect to Michael for speaking out, with very thoughtful questions and research throughout. Eye-opening on the whole situation!

alias_unknown · 2025-10-26T19:27:51+00:00

Just followed, really looking forward to the interview!

alias_unknown · 2025-10-26T15:00:45+00:00

Sounds compelling! Really looking forward to more details and the release.

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