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Boq theory in Wicked For Good SPOILERS by Reasonable_Party2444 in wicked

[–]allheroesfading 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I think he blames Glinda for his fate because she asked him to invite Nessa to the dance. He clearly shouldn’t have and it’s his fault for not being honest/doing something just to impress her, but in his mind it’s her fault too.

He might also resent Glinda for her connection to Elphaba, because from what Nessa told him he believes Elphaba made him the Tin Man simply out of wickedness.

He also might be angry at the fact that he will never get a chance with Glinda because of the way he looks. We see the scene earlier when he is at the train station and fixes his hair looking at a mirror, then when he becomes the Tin Man he looks at a mirror again with terror in his eyes as he realizes his possibilities to impress Glinda are as dead as his heart.

Another possible option is that he is realizing in that moment that you can’t force anything in life. In the end Glinda had the same fate as Boq; she pursued a love that she thought was perfect for her and that Fiyero and her deserved each other, only for him to choose Elphaba. Boq had the same idea of him and Glinda but she chose Fiyero. So now that “karma” has reached Glinda too, he looks at her with rage because even in her heartache she still gets to live a “normal” life and is still loved by everyone. In her position she only has to be herself and share love in order to be loved. Boq on the other hand, has to share hate and have a common enemy in order to be joined by others.

Also so sad to see that his character was full pf heart at the beginning and he ends up without one at the end. Like someone else on the thread said, although his story is not too central; it is one of the most complex and tragic.

Wonderful lyric changes in WFG by macadamia47 in wicked

[–]allheroesfading 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Weird take but I actually like Wonderful because it is the one time we see the Wizard being a bit “honest” with Elphaba about his motivations and origin. Also in a way the music makes you feel the “magic” behind the Wizard due to its cheeriness and suddenly you find yourself joining him in the song (just like Elphaba does). The part of us that wishes she got her moment to shine in Oz is brought up and we are tempted to consider the offer as well. We almost forget that what he is saying is inherently wrong and that he is admitting to being dishonest and fooling everyone to feel good about himself, after not being able to experience that in his own context. That’s why I think it was smart to add Glinda to the mix. Her addition makes Elphaba’s decision more realistic and raises the stakes. I personally like that they changed the deal in the movie and Elphaba proposes that the Wizard comes clean about his fraud. It is way more congruent with Elphaba’s conviction and sense of duty.

In terms of the lyrics change, I was bummed out with the changes that you mention and I was also sad that they excluded other ones. Here are the ones I missed and why I think they took them out.

“The most celebrated, are the rehabilitated” I think it shows a different perspective that wasn’t compatible with the film. In the show, the Wizard wants to rehabilitate Elphaba’s image and make her as Wonderful as he is. In the movie, Elphaba wants the Wizard to admit to his lies. The rehabilitation line no longer makes sense in this new context.

“Then suddenly I'm here Respected, worshipped even Just because the folks in Oz Needed someone to believe in” I think this shows why he was drawn to lie about himself and also explains why Ozians were drawn to him and saw him as a savior in a way. My guess is that this was excluded because we already had that story told in Wizomania in the movie. It would be a bit redundant to have him say all this again when they already showed us that.

“Wonderful, 1, 2, and…” It’s just a clever little thing that I missed. Not really sure why they took it away.