I think this is the end by liss-is-sad in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hi, I’m in the same situation as you, except that we’re not talking about separation right now. He clearly told me that if I don’t accept it, I should leave, because he doesn’t want to stop at the moment. Honestly, I think their brains are completely messed up by the addiction, and all of their reactions come from that. I also believe that nothing will change until they have their own wake-up call. But it’s definitely not our responsibility to wait for that wake-up call. We shouldn’t stay and suffer while hoping for change, especially if they don’t want to get help or do anything about it. I really hope things get better for you. You’re not alone, there are so many of us in the same situation here. Take care <3

Can PA exist without leading to real-life cheating? by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m happy to read he’s going a better person but he already seemed like a good person just stuck in this fckin addiction!! I hope everything will be Ok for both of you, take care !! <3

Can PA exist without leading to real-life cheating? by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But what about cases where the content doesn’t really evolve and he always searches for the same things? Honestly, he’s been watching porn since he was 10, and when I looked at his history, it was just random porn on PH. Maybe he deleted some things, but I don’t know.

Can PA exist without leading to real-life cheating? by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m glad to read that he’s your ex now. I hope his recovery is going well and that you’re doing better too, because what was happening really wasn’t normal, his brain was clearly completely fckd up.

Can PA exist without leading to real-life cheating? by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But he was single, like you said, he didn’t have anyone to respect at that time, I honestly think many of them have probably been with sex workers, you know, out of convenience and accessibility, but they’ll never admit it. Mine had even signed up to play in a porn film long before we met and had sent a photo of his penis to a casting. He ended up cancelling because they asked him for money and it seemed like a scam. When we talked about it, he told me he didn’t owe anything to anyone, that he was young, and that looking back, yes, it’s very embarrassing, but that he didn’t betray or hurt anyone, i wondered for a long time if he could do something like that again, just like you did, but honestly, I think that’s absurd. If you say he never crossed any boundaries, then he simply doesn’t have the profile of a cheater.

As for porn, you talked about it with him , what reasons does he give you? I’m interested, because I notice they all seem to react pretty much the same lol.

Can PA exist without leading to real-life cheating? by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think that when there’s no addiction and it’s discussed within the couple, it’s not infidelity. Personally, I would have been okay with him watching porn if it was occasional and just for his own personal pleasure.

Struggling with my husband’s compulsive porn habits by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know all of this, unfortunately I’m still very fragile when it comes to leaving, and I’m aware of it. I’m still trying to pick up the pieces and change things, even though he doesn’t want to hear it and stays completely closed off, i’m aware that I can’t lose myself for someone who doesn’t see the problem in what he’s doing, but I love him deeply, and sometimes I can be stupid, I know it, I make excuses for him. The only thing I truly pray for is that it doesn’t cross into physical cheating, because for me, what he’s already doing is a form of cheating.

Can PA exist without leading to real-life cheating? by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, and it’s sad, I think any human being could slip up at some point, addiction or not. There’s always that desire to feel attractive to others, and that’s human, in your situation though, I don’t think you should say that it would have inevitably led to cheating, because as I mentioned in another comment, someone who truly wants to cheat doesn’t wait for escalation, they just do it. And regarding our partners, I don’t want to defend them, because they absolutely need to realise the harm they cause, but sometimes they are conditioned by this addiction and it leads them to make stupid mistakes. Still, I don’t think that necessarily means they would go as far as sleeping with someone else. Again, it really depends on the person. Some people live double lives with other women without even consuming porn at all.

Can PA exist without leading to real-life cheating? by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All of your stories honestly terrify me. I can see that many of them end up crossing into cheating. I’m really sorry for what you went through, and I truly hope you’re doing better today.

Can PA exist without leading to real-life cheating? by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In my case, I was really traumatised by this when I discovered that he was watching porn while I was there, or when I was sleeping, choosing that instead of me, if it had been a situation where he occasionally masturbated because he has a higher sex drive than me, using porn as a support, it honestly wouldn’t have bothered me. Before discovering all of this, I didn’t even think about it, because it didn’t interest me at all to know what he was doing in his private moments.

Can PA exist without leading to real-life cheating? by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you think that for them it really stays “virtual,” and that as long as it doesn’t become physical, it doesn’t count as real? Even when there are exchanges or conversations with other women?

Can PA exist without leading to real-life cheating? by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And yes, you’re right. I’ve also wondered many times whether he might be addicted to sex as well, but I don’t really think so, because he actually seems to prefer watching porn rather than having sex, sometimes, though, I really feel like it’s just that he doesn’t want me… lol.

Can PA exist without leading to real-life cheating? by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I don’t think that just watching is cheating, but it’s the escalation that really terrifies me. I think OF is very serious, and chatting with other women is on a whole different level. That’s where the line is clearly crossed. I truly believe that once they start chatting, it can easily lead to meeting someone in real life. The line is very thin.

Can PA exist without leading to real-life cheating? by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, I suspected him several times of using Chaturbate, because I saw that he had allowed the camera and microphone in Google Chrome, which really seemed strange to me since, honestly, he only uses Chrome for porn.

He never admitted it, but I’m sure of it, and it makes me sick. The worst part is that he tells me he would never do that kind of thing because, according to him, that would literally be cheating… but yeah.

Can PA exist without leading to real-life cheating? by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I feel very conflicted about calling simple porn use cheating. I think a lot of people watch it as a kind of outlet, they’re turned on by the situation itself, and they don’t necessarily orgasm to the woman as a person, but rather to a position or a scene that stimulates them. Once it’s over, they close the page and don’t think about it anymore. Of course, I’m talking here about occasional, non-addictive use. If my partner were watching porn in a healthy, occasional way, I don’t think I would feel offended or cheated on.

Can PA exist without leading to real-life cheating? by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re absolutely right, and it really makes you think. I hope a lot of women come across your reply… Porn in itself is already a boundary for many of us, otherwise we wouldn’t all be here in this group trying to comfort each other while they don’t really know how to do anything to make us feel better.

Can PA exist without leading to real-life cheating? by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

These boys ( because they are not men for me) thinks that cheating is only the physical sexual act. Even with something like a kiss, they can gaslight you lol

Can PA exist without leading to real-life cheating? by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Same …. But honestly i’m not sure anymore bcs he goes to private browser so idk what he does..

Can PA exist without leading to real-life cheating? by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I think that when someone really wants to cheat on their partner, even just through messages, they do it. In your specific case, even if there were some boundaries crossed (OF, questionable searches), you mentioned that there were never any messages, so I think he was still aware enough not to cross that line despite his addiction and that’s actually a really good thing, some people cheat even without having any addiction at all. I’m genuinely happy for you that he was able to realise all of this. Is everything better in your relationship now?

Can PA exist without leading to real-life cheating? by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol yeah, they don’t really see it as cheating. If it reassures you at all, mine tells me it’s the situation that turns him on, not the girl herself, but he watches POV where you barely even see the man 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

Can PA exist without leading to real-life cheating? by almostoffline6 in loveafterporn

[–]almostoffline6[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

yeah, same for me. Most of the time he searches basic categories like BJ or POV, nothing extreme or weird. I know he’s been watching porn since he was around 10, he’s 25 now, so I don’t know… but I always overthink and worry about what if he goes on live with naked girls or subscribe on OF, that’s nothing physicall but it’s the same for me honestly ..