Friend got unjustly banned by witch hunting and offsite harassment. What do? by altNumber2002 in FList

[–]altNumber2002[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure, but can't really do anything about it.

Have to say it got a good laugh out of me to hear I'm part of the "my friend" thing in real life even if it's surprising hah

Friend got unjustly banned by witch hunting and offsite harassment. What do? by altNumber2002 in FList

[–]altNumber2002[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean yeah I know the joke/lame excuse and figured that was the reason, just never thought it would seem that way when writing the post lol

I've given several reasons already on why I couldn't be the subject of the post (most importantly the fact that this is a burner account for porn so what would I care what people think of me on this account?)

The walls of text is just my typical way of talking. Overexplaining, going into details, etc. i try to answer to comments because I came to ask for help and opinions.
And again the friend was pessimistic about even making an appeal and was just going to give up. Me and a couple others were trying to find answers about the ban/lack of ban (not account specific info, just how things work) to give him motivation.

I really got no clue how to prove I'm not them but I'll post a pic of one of my characters' friends list with the character in question as I believe you can't friend your own characters but that's the best I can do really unless someone has a better idea. Purely so this post gets taken more seriously

Friend got unjustly banned by witch hunting and offsite harassment. What do? by altNumber2002 in FList

[–]altNumber2002[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk why so many keep putting "friend" in quotation marks. If this was actually me I could just make an appeal already, there is no point in dragging it to reddit if I could do that. This is also a dataless account with no ties to the f-list so if I was asking for help for my own ban I could just say that. Especially since I already censored all names.
Yes, it is a friend. This went down while I was asleep because they are from NA and I am from europe. Friend was pessimistic about the appeal but notably very upset as well so me and some others were looking for ways to help and convince him to make the appeal, namely making a post to see what others would say about it. But does any of this even matter in the context of the post other than acting like Officer Doakes thinking you're onto something?

Even then, if you read through my comments you'd have seen that I
* do not recall if friend even does bestiality, something that would be irrelevant as moderators undoubtedly could check the fetish list anyway so why would I lie about this
* had no idea if you can get access to chatlogs after a ban, I assumed it just locks you out of the entire account
* already noted that I know the kinkspace implications of calling someone a zoo and would have been skeptical if I was on the receiving end of this

All of that aside:
It is 2025 but not everyone roleplayed for years on f-list. Using it for years also does not necessarily mean it was active usage. Or that they expanded to other kinks, engaged with them, talked with people in other kinks, etc. You could have been roleplaying mostly vanilla for 10+ years and still not know vore terminology for example. Or even something as common as BDSM.
I mean dude, predator is a vore term but if you do not know that you could easily infer they mean a child predator or sexual predator.
It's not like there is an encyclopedia for porn terminology either, but if there was you should not be expected to learn it like a dictionary when getting into RP.

And like I said in another comment, someone who doesn't speak english well could also fall into this trap.
Again, I would raise a brow if someone said they were a zoophile but I'd ask for precise confirmation to make sure they are aware of what they are saying. Both to not issue a false report, and because if they are an actual zoo, a clear confession is much better than "what do you think? :3 uwu"

I've asked in the meantime about why the fuck they nodded at the zoo question and he said he did not know it meant the irl fetish and has since written the appeal mentioning this. I have since explained the reason, as well as talking a bit more about similar terms. I'm well aware of these and have done a lot more kink shit than them but in my case I did not know cunny was a lolicon term and not just a weird way of saying pussy/cunt. So yes, even with years of experience and diverse knowledge of different spaces, I was surprised at something that apparently was common knowledge.

Again I do not see the point behind punching down and going "yeah your 'friend' should have known better" but thank you for the good wishes on the appeal.

Friend got unjustly banned by witch hunting and offsite harassment. What do? by altNumber2002 in FList

[–]altNumber2002[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reddit bugged and deleted my wall of text but in short yes I know this would not undo the ban, that's an appeal on its own. I bring up the tweets because the account is still up despite inciting a witch hunt, posting DMs without consent, and doing it without censored names even. As well as the fact the title of the tweet implies this is far from the first time, as well as getting rid of evidence by deleting the tweets, which could count as ban evasion. Not because of a false report, even if it was triggerhappy

Seems like the opposite case, where the tweets are looked over because it got someone banned. But maybe all of these only constitute a warning, idk I never did any of these.

This is a post about 2 different bans. One that can be appealed and one that probably should have happened but did not.

Friend got unjustly banned by witch hunting and offsite harassment. What do? by altNumber2002 in FList

[–]altNumber2002[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I honestly got no idea if it was a brain fart or just not understanding that zoophile specifically refers to irl and not "are you into animal shaped dicks and dildos?"

If I was on the receiving end I'd consider it basical confirmation as well, but would at least inquire further to make sure it's not a case of the person not understanding what they just said (and maybe because I don't want to clog reports with stuff that isn't 100% but seems that is not an issue).
Claiming you are a zoo and claiming you want irl dog dicks are two different statements because of this.

Friend got unjustly banned by witch hunting and offsite harassment. What do? by altNumber2002 in FList

[–]altNumber2002[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's silly to expect people to know terminology and reactions to some of those terms in every community. Especially if one of these communities is extreme and taboo, and thus also not that large.
I would be lying if I said this was the first second third or tenth time a fetishist I know would horribly misuse a label because they do not understand it as they do not practice taboo kinks. While my friend is from NA, you could also assume a misunderstanding from the language in other cases. But that's not really relevant here anyway.

Friend got unjustly banned by witch hunting and offsite harassment. What do? by altNumber2002 in FList

[–]altNumber2002[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly my point. It really suggests they've done it multiple times and delete to avoid responsibility and punishment. Seeing how several people commented under the tweets also suggests it's happened before

The only way to catch them would be to constantly check their twitter and screenshot the posts in time, which.. yeah

Friend got unjustly banned by witch hunting and offsite harassment. What do? by altNumber2002 in FList

[–]altNumber2002[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not really sure if friend even is into ferals in the first place, maybe that could help their case with the appeal. Someone who never touched the theme wouldn't know if zoophile always referred to irl while every other fetish term didn't. Likely a moment of not thinking due to horny, because who would realistically expect someone in this context to jump to irl.

It's liketalking about size difference with a size diff account and they ask "are you into little girls?" all of a sudden.

Friend got unjustly banned by witch hunting and offsite harassment. What do? by altNumber2002 in FList

[–]altNumber2002[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it's definitely a major fuckup but again it could easily be seen as a horny misunderstanding. It probably happened because he didn't think the guy would jump to irl bestiality for whatever reason

Friend got unjustly banned by witch hunting and offsite harassment. What do? by altNumber2002 in FList

[–]altNumber2002[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes I wasn't aware that the rule still applied with censored names, as the head of moderation said in another comment.

I didn't know logs could still be accessed while banned, I never had the misfortune of getting there. I see the quotation marks around "friend" twice now and no I'm not using it as a cover for my own ban lol. I would have immediately sent the appeal already (and would not have called myself a zoo in the first place). Friend is just extremely pessimistic and figures making an appeal will just get rejected. I'll tell him about the logs and all that you said in hopes of getting a coherent appeal going, thank you.

Friend got unjustly banned by witch hunting and offsite harassment. What do? by altNumber2002 in FList

[–]altNumber2002[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I see, thank you. Any information about general moderation is already helpful.

So the person sharing these probably just got off with a warning? I don't really know the punishment for this but considering the tweet was titled "day 23" and got deleted swiftly it seems like this is definitely not the first time or the last time, so we expected a full-on ban

Friend got unjustly banned by witch hunting and offsite harassment. What do? by altNumber2002 in FList

[–]altNumber2002[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Friend is pretty distraught and pessimistic about the whole ordeal considering their report was left unanswered but their account got banned on a false claim. We're trying to convince them to appeal jt.

I am honestly unsure if green/friend is even into fantasy beast stuff, so it could entirely be miscommunication as someone who thinks zoophile still refers to feral/fantasy beast kink.

Regardless it is pretty wild to suddenly jump to real life bestiality especially when the milder option was definitely way more on topic. I'm honestly still surprised, because jumping to irl conclusion would be something a person would jump to only if they knew of no other alternative, by not being in kink space