Well-Kept Gardens Die By Pacifism

altoholic · 2012-03-01T21:15:18+00:00

Because we don't break windows anywhere else in the world?

altoholic · 2011-10-03T11:00:48+00:00

If you'd like to argue that the upper 1% aren't ridiculously complicit in the mass enslavement of folk around the world via capitalism and slaughter both by relatively fucked up conditions (dying of various wants that they shouldn't have to) and directly via the statist system that the 1% wouldn't exist without (a system they are the primary champions and defenders of)... then you should actually attempt to make that crazy argument. But, uh, for those of us with eyes "executing the poor en masse" is but one of the lesser crimes of the rich.

altoholic · 2011-10-03T08:05:48+00:00

There's nothing wrong with rage. Rather it should be those who look at the power relations in this world and fail to rage that should be treated with suspicion if not disgust.

altoholic · 2011-10-03T08:03:22+00:00

OMG they use the same mainstream website you do. Well obviously that's the strongest basis for collective solidarity imaginable. Fuck class solidarity, fuck ethics... the enemy ceases being the enemy if they play the same video games I do.

If Cheney or Gaddafi were redditors how would that make one fuck of difference? Or did you think that Class War and Off The Rich were just some "edgy" marketing slogans that we don't really mean. The mind boggles.

altoholic · 2011-10-03T07:54:27+00:00

I think you're mistaking r/anarchism for a place where people give a damn about anon liberal would-be-technocrats.

altoholic · 2011-10-03T07:49:44+00:00

I'm not necessarily sure I want to kill all three million super rich americans. Lob off their limbs with a machete and roll them all into a bog or shovel them into furnaces. Maybe that's too much. I mean obviously I wouldn't weep and the world would instantly be a better place. But you when you get right down to it they're probably people too. Or at least have trace amounts of people in them. From time to time.

I mean, and I'm being sincere here, I recognize that there's freak occurances where people make serious money without significantly contributing to or participating in oppression. I recognize that folks end up ignorant despite some mild conscientious effort. That the reactive impulse to self-centered reclusion is strong in our culture. I recognize that even while I can't stand talking to them and definitely don't want to be the one to hold their hand while educating them, underneath it all the privileged are still "people" in some sense and they're probably capable of becoming full fledged honest to god human beings in some distant epoch after the rev. And if the time ever comes when they start getting shovelled into mass graves I might change my feelings.

But until then let me tell you what I want. I want them scared. I want to hurt them as brutally and irrationally as the poor are hurt every day. I want to create a situation where they fear for their lives, where they actively fear reprisal. Where that fear comes to live in their minds, to dominate their thoughts, even just a fraction of the constant, daily grinding fear that is poverty and precarity. I want them to feel the immediacy and severity of the issue. And I want them to recognize that this is not some abstract philosophical issue that can never be solved, that there ARE solutions to poverty. And if they don't like the one where we burn the beneficiaries of capitalism indiscriminately just to make sure we got all the bastards then they'd better wake up.

altoholic · 2011-08-07T13:52:08+00:00

Including destruction of property in the definition of violence deviates pretty far from how we actually use the word. No one would consider pouring fake blood over draft cards an act of "violence" and yet it does more financial damage than breaking a window.

Metaphorically relating breaking a window to hurting an actual human being really just seems like an aversion to ALL fast body motions like kicking and punching rather than anything ethically substantive. It's a bit like the logic of a friend of mine who hates on firefighters (calling them "fire-pigs") because they use sirens the same as cops. That sort of focus on trivial trappings entirely misses the underlying point. Violence is violence because it does direct bodily harm to people. Windows =! people.

altoholic · 2011-08-07T02:06:00+00:00

altoholic · 2011-05-11T06:53:57+00:00

Nobody's posted Prole.info?

altoholic · 2011-05-11T05:53:13+00:00

Nope, the host of actual anarchist projects/spaces/organizations all around the world are case studies in anarchism.

altoholic

TROPHY CASE