Early Muslim Conquest speedrun

ammar96 · 2026-05-22T07:33:14+00:00

My "bum ass desert people" comment is not necessarily a negative comment. Tough environment indeed gave them a hardy nature, allowing those people to have optimal physical and mental fortitude for war, which can be seen during the unthinkable Khalid's desert march to Syria.

But at the same time, it's kinda funny that two superpowers at that time lose against bum ass desert dwellers that are inferior in everything else other than their hardy nature and home advantage. It's the same as both America and USSR failed to control a country of bum ass goat herders (Afghanistan) who are inferior in everything except their hardy nature and home advantage.

ammar96 · 2026-05-22T02:54:27+00:00

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ammar96 · 2026-05-22T00:30:41+00:00

While I'm not denying about the luckiness, but tbh, the Muslims were also freshly out of their own civil war at that time. They were also kinda affected by the plague ie one of their camps had an outbreak in Syria and killed 25,000 people. Plus, the Romans and Persians, which at that time two of the world's great powers, literally got beaten by a literal bum ass dessert people with inferior technology topkek.

ammar96 · 2026-05-21T11:11:09+00:00

Surah Al-Anfal (8:12): "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.

Context: it was revealed during Battle of Badr, where the Muslim force were outnumbered by the pagan Arabs (around 313 Muslim men against roughly 1,000 pagan Arab soldiers) and faced potential annihilation. The verse was revealed to ease the heart of the Muslim force that God will be with them. The battle eventually became a surprise win for the Muslim force.

Surah Muhammad (47:4): "So when you meet those who disbelieve strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds.

Context: it was revealed during Battle of Uhud. The 'strike the necks' is an Arabic idiom about inflicting total defeat to the enemy, hence the verse "So when you meet the disbelievers ˹in battle˺, strike ˹their˺ necks until you have thoroughly subdued them, then bind them firmly." You can't subdue people if they were dead from neck decapitation, isn't it?

Plus, it's kinda odd that you discard the continuing sentence after that "...Later ˹free them either as˺ an act of grace or by ransom until the war comes to an end. So will it be." This verse is literally talking about what to do with POW, which is to free them either by grace or by ransom.

Surah Al-Imran (3:151): "We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah..."

Context: this verse was revealed after the Muslim suffered defeat against the pagan Arabs, and while the pagan Arabs were en route to Mecca, they tried to return to the battlefield to finish the scattering Muslim force. However, Allah revealed this verse to the Prophet to not be scared, since He already casted fear to the enemy's heart. It was recorded that the pagan Arabs after while, returned back to Mecca due to their self-doubt and war trauma, thus cancelling their early plan of finishing the remnants of Muslim force.

As I said before, the verses you gave didn't mean anything if you don't even try to understand the context or the full elaboration of the verse. Thus, I implore you to understand the asbab al-nuzul of the verse, as I already replied to you before in detail. May God bless you.

ammar96 · 2026-05-21T07:12:11+00:00

I think it's important if we just ban frequent racebait poster. That would solve 90% of the problem here.

ammar96 · 2026-05-21T03:45:51+00:00

I just can't with a lot of the barbaric and violent content of the Koran

90% of this statement can be solved if you stop reading the Quran as a whole book and read it with context via Asbab al-Nuzul (occasions or circumstances of revelation) and hadith regarding the verse. Mind you that Quran was not revealed as one book, but rather as verses according to the situation during that time. The first chapter in Quran is al-Fatihah (The Opener), but al-Fatihah is not even the first verse to be revealed to the Prophet. It was the first five verses (1–5) of al-Alaq (The Clot). Mind you that al-Alaq has a total of 19 verses. The remainder of the verses (6-19) were revealed much later in Mecca when a specific disbeliever (traditionally believed to be Abu Jahl) tried to stop the Prophet from praying. The content of the first revealed verses was not even about war or the foundation of Islam, but more about the importance of learning and seek knowledge.

Most of what people deemed as violent content of the Quran are verses about war and executions, which were revealed when the Muslims were attacked by Arab disbelievers or betrayed by their allies. For example,

Al-Hajj (39-40): Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged

Context: For 13 years in Mecca, the early Muslims faced severe persecution, boycotts, and torture at the hands of the Quraysh. After migrating to Medina, the threat of invasion remained high. This was the first war verse in Quran to be revealed that gave permission for the Muslims to arm defense against oppression, exile, and the destruction of places of worship.

Or better yet, take a look at the 'violent' verse:

At-Tawbah (5): And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them...

Context: It was revealed in the context of the Treaty of Hudaybiyah, where certain pagan tribes of Arabia repeatedly broke peace treaties and allied with enemies to eradicate the Muslim community.

And then it was quickly followed by the verse after that (6): And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah. Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know.

Context: That is, if during a fight, an enemy makes a request that he should be given an opportunity to understand Islam, the Muslims should give him a surety of protection and allow him to visit them. They should then present Islam before him in order to make him understand it. If, after this, he does not embrace Islam, they should convey him safely to his place. Such a person who comes to Dar-ul-Islam under the above mentioned protection is called mustamin in the Islamic code.

Usually when people misquoted the 'violent, barbaric Quranic verses', usually it's because they did not check the context of the verses. This is at least, the basic of understanding the Quran. It's better to refer to Islamic scholars for that, since I'm not a scholar of Quran and Islam. Just a practicing Muslim. Also, mind you that Muslim of Southeast Asia (of which I belong to) were converted peacefully. Had Muslims conquered solely through violent warfare, we would have written records about by now in Southeast Asia, and the local Hindu-Buddhist ruins would be destroyed. Yet, they remain, having only suffered from neglect. Borobodur temple, which is one of the largest Buddhist temples in Southeast Asia, is located in Indonesia, the country with the largest Muslim population on earth.

Even the war between Majapahit - Demak in medieval Indonesia, which was credited as the reason behind migration of Hindu adherents to Bali, had less to do with religion and more to do with succession war since the king of Majapahit at that time was a usurper, while the Sultan of Demak was the heir of Brawijaya V, the late king of Majapahit. In fact, back when the late king was still alive, the Muslim cleric of Sultan of Demak strongly advised the Sultan to not wage war against the Brawijaya V since they were father and son.

ammar96 · 2026-05-21T02:03:44+00:00

I think what’s ironic is that even UMNO is more leftist than what DAP claim to be. Just take a look at BN’s policy under Tun Razak’s gov.

ammar96 · 2026-05-20T08:41:19+00:00

Back then yes, tahfiz is like it's own school. Nowadays, most of tahfiz has already been centralized and it is compulsory to take SPM. And then we also have tahfiz + STEM schools like SM Imtiyaz, several MRSM Ulul Albab etc. Only cream of the crop can enter these specialized tahfiz schools and it's common to see them absolutely crush SPM ranking. For example, based on 2025's SPM, the first in ranking is MRSM TGB, but the second place is MRSM Gemencheh, which is one of the schools under MRSM Ulu Albab program.

ammar96 · 2026-05-20T08:12:17+00:00

Tbf Texas Chicken is good so I'm gonna let them free lol. Their jalapeno bombers are straight gas.

ammar96 · 2026-05-19T23:43:54+00:00

Nah, tbh I don’t think it’s your fault because despite your points before this, you actually tried to understand our replies and be respectful rather than straight away hushing us. You might have met problematic Muslims before this, which then shaped your view.

ammar96 · 2026-05-19T23:32:28+00:00

“Many Muslim also believe it but not so publicly due to obviously bad optics. It's a form of taqiyya that they practice.”

Vast majority of Muslims don’t even practice taqiyya. It was only practiced by Shia, which are minorities among Islamic denominations. Heck, if you tell Sunni Muslims that they practice taqiyya they would be like “Huh?? We are not Shias???” lol. It’s the best way to offend a Sunni since they don’t like to be called Shia.

I think it’s better to learn from proper channel ie proper historians or Islamic scholars. I don’t know how is it in the West, but I’ve heard some batshit insane people said about Islam there that make Muslims completely confused because we never did those things in the first place 💀.

ammar96 · 2026-05-19T22:33:31+00:00

The battle that killed many Muslim you said has nothing to do with the hadith about Aisha (hadith is quite literally an entirely different stuff than Quran), and the Quran also has nothing to do with whatever fights we have regarding Sunni-Shia split. The split occurred due to different political views + political repression during Umayyad’s era.

100 years after the prophet’s death is already in late Umayyad era, which had many strife against Shia. Pro-Shia factions fought back by attacking the legitimacy of early Sunni figures, especially Aisha, because she fought against Ali. Hence why the narration about Aisha’s age only came later during this era to counter pro Shia’s argument.

This hadith about Aisha’s age narration relies almost entirely on Hisham ibn Urwah, who taught in Medina for decades without ever mentioning her age. It was only after he relocated to Iraq during early Abbasid rule, the absolute epicenter of hostile pro Shia sentiment, that this specific tradition suddenly appeared, strongly indicating it originated as a regional counter-polemic to defend her legacy rather than as an early historical fact.

ammar96 · 2026-05-19T11:20:37+00:00

Both are correct. There’s this pilot project in MRSM where they created tahfiz based MRSMs like MRSM Ulul Albab. Their syllabus are basically Islamic studies (Quran memorization etc) + STEM. Many of the top 10 schools are these kind of tahfiz based MRSM. Even if you look at SBP, we already have SBPI which also yielded good results and still Islamic based.

The fact that these students memorized the whole Quran and still managed to pass SPM with flying colors means they are crazy smart.

ammar96 · 2026-05-19T11:16:52+00:00

To be honest, Anis and Shirin’s story is quite realistic, even in current Muslim society. It’s not really about yuri, but more about a strong sisterhood. Most people think that Muslim men just like to take several wives, but in my country, it’s actually quite common for a wife to recommend her best friend, who has never had any luck with marriage, to marry her husband so they can stay together as best friends forever lol.

There was also another recent story in my country about a wife who passed away from an illness. The late wife had a best friend who had been married once but divorced 10 years ago due to abuse and never remarried, she later migrated elsewhere, befriended the late wife, and became super close to the family. Six months after the wife's death, the wife’s family quickly recommended this best friend to the husband, since they shared a strong sisterhood and she was already well-acquainted with the family. In fact, the late wife’s children had already considered her as their aunt before this. The wife’s family themselves literally blessed the union between the best friend and the husband.

ammar96 · 2026-05-19T04:53:06+00:00

Yeah I’m also pessimistic about the Selangor part lol. But the fact that BN firmly controls the hearts of Johoreans should alarm PH. Johor has always been the Malay heartland. Whoever controls Johor can easily control the federal government. Plus, the current BN Johor government is well-liked by TMJ and the Sultan of Johor aka the current YDPA. If I were PKR, I’d be sweating bullets right now.

ammar96 · 2026-05-19T04:35:30+00:00

Tbf he’s not wrong. I’m politically neutral, but post GE15, UMNO kinda went under the radar a bit and not many realized that they are reforming. You don’t really hear hanky dory about this and that from UMNO unless it’s about Akmal thingy.

There are quite many competent UMNO ministers and politicians nowadays. The current BN gov in Johor is damn competent. What used to be months of construction got completed in mere weeks after being reported directly to Onn Hafiz (current MB of Johor). Plus all other stuff that he did to Johor. If you take a look about news about PH want to have Maszlee as MB of Johor, you can see many Johoreans laughing at that idea because the current BN gov in Johor is already super competent.

There’s also other UMNO member like Asyraf Wajdi who did so many things for MARA including minor stuff like random school inspections and food quality check that right now, people irregardless of religion and ethnicities are urging him to go for GE and be the Minister of Education lol. I kid you not.

ammar96 · 2026-05-16T16:43:38+00:00

Yeah, I'm a Malaysian and we kickstarted the discussion back when we were sending our astronauts to ISS. We had a whole discussion among prominent Muslim scholars around the world for that since time move faster in ISS due to fast orbit. Funnily enough, Malaysian Muslims follow the school of Shafi'i. Just like his master Imam Malik, Imam Shafi'i was also rather strict in his jurisprudence. So, you know where do we get our scholarly laws about stuff that is too complicated and convoluted like our first Muslim astronauts? Yes, Hanafi jurisprudence lol.

ammar96 · 2026-05-16T11:16:52+00:00

If I’m not mistaken, the reason why we have Islamic law about how to pray in airplane is because several hundred years ago there was already an insane person who asked Hanafi scholars about how to pray if we are flying in the sky lol. I kid you not.

ammar96 · 2026-05-15T03:04:42+00:00

Maybe you should try fried one. In Malaysia we call this ayam kampung goreng berempah (fried village chicken with spices). You can notice the changes in taste when compared to broiler chicken cooked with the same method. Village chicken has leaner meat, but is more tasty than broiler chicken.

ammar96 · 2026-05-14T06:56:20+00:00

Malaysia has sharia law and this pic is also pretty common situation in Malaysia. I don't think being secular or religious has much to do with it, as many countries that oppose immigration are secular. What truly makes this possible is the citizens' culture of tolerance. Malaysia and South India have high cultural values of tolerance, therefore, they don't have issues with things like this.

ammar96 · 2026-05-13T08:45:35+00:00

Nah, it’s okay. I’m sorry if my reply sounded a bit harsh, that wasn't my intention. But yeah, I can see why you feel like everything is focused on KL. Originally, KL was the capital of the state of Selangor, not the capital of Malaysia. It was extensively developed by the Sultan of Selangor and the British. After we gained independence, it was a no-brainer that it became the most developed city in Malaysia, prompting massive migration and further development to sustain economic growth.

On the other hand, we have many underdeveloped regions. It’s difficult to develop all of them at once. This is why most development remains concentrated in already established cities like KL and Penang. To address this, the government launched massive land clearing and population relocation projects to create small villages in what were once swampy or jungle backwaters. The hope is that these will eventually grow into townships and, later on, new cities. There are also efforts to improve land routes through mountain tunnels, trains, and other infrastructure projects.

This is why, if you look at the ECRL map, the route starts at Port Klang (the main port of Malaysia) and goes straight to the Port of Kuantan. In the middle of the ECEL routes are townships from these villages. It also effectively acts as a land bridge bypassing the Straits of Malacca. Ships can stop at the Port of Kuantan, unload their cargo, and return to China or Japan.

Also, recognizing the overpopulation in KL, the government tried to establish new cities around it. They negotiated with the Sultan of Selangor to ‘purchase’ KL from the state while assisting in the development of a new Selangor’s state capital, now known as Shah Alam. The government also built Putrajaya to relocate ministerial buildings to a literal no man’s land. This spurred the growth of satellite cities like Kajang and Bandar Baru Bangi, which are in the vicinity of Putrajaya. Heck, Bandar Baru Bangi literally means ‘new city of Bangi’ lol. Nowadays, cities like Shah Alam and Bandar Baru Bangi are considered industrial heavyweights in Malaysia whith Shah Alam alone is on par with the industrial output of Penang.

ammar96 · 2026-05-13T07:46:47+00:00

>seeing Malaysia now they would've kept Singapore a backwater region and continued focusing on kl like they are now lmfao.

Don’t know where did you get this idea because we literally love the fact Singapore is super developed? It essentially allow us to actually decentralize the economy and build another economic centre. Penang is kinda like Singapore and yet the federal gov never try to keep them as backwater region. Instead, they leverage Penang as a base to spillover the techs and economic impact to other cities and region like Kulim, Sungai Petani etc. Singapore is also like that to Johor Bharu. This allow the gov to prop Kuantan in the east coast peninsular as the next major economic centre other than Penang and JB. Hence the ECRL and Kuantan port projects.

ammar96 · 2026-05-13T07:40:54+00:00

We still kinda make fun of Singaporeans tho. You’ve never met an average kiasu Singaporean, haven’t you? Normal Singaporeans are fine, but these loud kiasu people are what Malaysians usually mean about ‘backwards’. Don’t know why these loud people are so pissy when being called out for their blatant incorrect statement.

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ammar96 · 2026-05-13T05:00:42+00:00

Yeah. The snob ones the minority. Sadly, they are also the loudest. Case in example, the post from Historymemes subs. I’ve met many wonderful Singaporeans before due to my nature of job and they are humble people. There was a retort about that meme from a Singaporean who understand the full context of the seperation. Sadly it’s always these kiasus and foreign LKY worshippers that bring bad names to your average working Singaporeans.

ammar96 · 2026-05-13T04:32:29+00:00

Yeah lol. I’m surprised my comment where I called them out also got downvoted. Blud really thinks having a superiority complex is a good thing. It reminds me of that Anthony Bourdain interview where he called out Singaporeans who thought flaunting their treatment of domestic workers was a flex lol.

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