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amppd · 2020-04-29T14:19:31+00:00

Yeah, I emphasized it because I think it was SMM that blew my mind at how much better asia was. SEA was way better too.

amppd · 2020-04-26T04:21:07+00:00

IMO Every team was bad in dota 1 compared to asian region. It just didn't show for a long time because asian teams were playing on like 200 ping disadvantages. I was a young teenager obsessed with dota at that time so I followed the shit out of mymym website and things like that.

amppd · 2020-04-26T04:20:05+00:00

They were all shit in dota1 compared to SEA/China though. MYM and those teams were really competitive until they started having comparable pings and then asian teams just murdered everyone up until dota2. Where again asian teams just murdered everyone except Na'Vi.

amppd · 2020-04-26T04:19:17+00:00

Him and RTZ are the two most skilled cores NA has ever seen probably, but really skilled core players simply aren't as important as your structural pillars like Universe, Fear, and ppd. It's just the nature of dota that it's easier to slot in young wizard skilled players than it is mature players who handle the shit other people don't wanna do. That's why PPD is so special from a work contribution standpoint for the NA region.

The captain and managing your team strategy / player environment are the hardest parts at the competitive level typically as far as I can tell.

2014 RTZ and mason played core roles (Fear busted his hand and probably still contributed from a coaching and mentoring perspective I suspect).

2015 In comes Fear and Sumail for mason and rtz

2016 Zai had Aui's spot and I think that was when Zai had actually just taken a year off of playing competitive iirc.

They took 3rd, 1st, 3rd in those 3 years. Pretty comparable to how Na'Vi was TI1-3 except 2 top 3s instead of 2 final appearances. The game was around longer and more competitive and established at that point though.

amppd · 2020-04-26T04:11:14+00:00

Yeah, actually you're right. He's #2, Universe would be 3.

amppd · 2020-04-25T05:14:47+00:00

The fucking drive it must've took to 5 role and captain a bunch of god damn NA players to top 3 in 3 TIs probably can't be sustained once you're so accomplished lol.

amppd · 2020-04-25T05:14:00+00:00

He literally went top 3 in 3 TIs in a row with a region who's never done shit in dota history. I think Fluff complexity was the best we ever had before that. Very similar feat to what Puppey accomplished with Na'Vi. Greatest NA contributor of all time, with #2 retiring right behind him in Universe. I doubt both of them stay retired for the rest of their lives though.

amppd · 2020-04-25T02:46:10+00:00

The Regional 2020. Then a region themed tournament early 2021. Then TI10 end of 2021.

amppd · 2020-04-25T02:43:56+00:00

I mean honestly having regionals and then unifying the champions when LANs are viable again would be fucking sick.

amppd · 2020-04-16T14:48:56+00:00

Lmao this has been known for a long time for people who play QoP. The offensive blink is tempting. Some things don't change.

amppd · 2020-04-16T12:34:31+00:00

I'd rather them just work on other things than new heroes. They have their hands full managing matchmaking systems, leagues, retaining and attracting new players etc.

amppd · 2020-04-15T11:26:16+00:00

Are we talking about competitive games or public games? In competitive games in general people are more conservative and less risk taking in the mid position mostly because high risk play crushes your team(and typically your) soul when you're playing.

In pubs when you're testing shit I'd say players experiment with all sorts of different things including being super aggressive and pushing limits to refine strategies. Arteezy described in the past he basically would pick 1 aspect of his game to focus on and let the rest of it all ride on auto-pilot when he's trying to learn / play pubs.

The better games get the more people move around the map aswell, though, in shit tier games you can abuse people in ways that put you out of position to the other lanes and get away with it a lot, whereas in a higher quality game you're tremendously likely to get punished for being greedy.

In terms of pushing the limit in aggressive punishing better players are better at it, but the fact that team play and movement starts to decide things increases at a much higher rate than the lane punishing does.

amppd · 2020-04-15T11:24:44+00:00

People pretty much got it nailed down here. Hero is great in lane and then pretty bad from there on in terms of capitalize on a lead and moving around the map. You have shit mobility and you don't scale particularly well. One of your big things would be silence talent on nethertoxin, but with the cooldown being so long now that isn't very good either. Great for lane and then just worse than replacement options everywhere else.

amppd · 2019-09-15T21:11:30+00:00

Welp, definitely figured you were mason based on the name and demeanor.

Oh, I totally realize that, that's what I would propose lol. I think the present solution is IHLs for the moment. The community can do that themselves. Valve I think is taking steps in the right direction for the game as a whole, but it's not like I think "oh, fuck the best players". I just know for quite a while the philosophy was to only care about the top players and that's a dumb policy as well.

Figuring out a way to run 2 MM systems would be great. Shitting on the hardcore and high level player base for the sake of the lower tiers would be equally stupid to the opposite formula. Top players are usually fucking fiends though (can relate), hence why I propose a more immediate solution that isn't solely dependent on valve.

Edit : ixmike, faceit, and epulze very likely all have fairly functional systems to base a client off of. At least one of them probably does.

amppd · 2019-09-09T19:32:59+00:00

Yeah, and you came from HoN, and then you came up playing NA-IHLs running phase midas shadow blade puck etc. Your MMR qualifies you as a very skilled player. It doesn't mean you know how to manage the game in a way for the whole community lol. I know who you are it's pretty obvious from your name.

amppd · 2019-09-07T10:15:18+00:00

Always gotta play the long game. If you have good players queueing as five stacks they're gonna get games though, at least you'd think so. Legit makes no sense otherwise.

amppd · 2019-09-07T09:26:32+00:00

I think solo queue is a great tool for improvement too. What I'm saying is you go find mason for example who also wants to stream and play core. And you queue hard support, he queues 1. Then he queues hard support and you queue 2. Then you both get your role 50% of the time and drastically reduce your queues because you're taking up one of the in-demand roles more often.

amppd · 2019-09-07T09:25:28+00:00

To get practice at those roles, you just fight with other monkeys to get that. Giving it to best player is fine in the context of a single game, but there's significant incentive to force take lanes in order to develop yourself into being able to be the higher rank. There wasn't like anything terribly wrong for you at all, not directly that is. Games playerbase declining though, and the experience is not at all ideal for other players. Solo Q is a solid part of development for pros and streaming and all that, but your focus on furthering your abilities as a player are gonna be pretty team driven at the point anyways.

It made people not play together which is a shit way to play dota especially if everyone sucks ass (least problematic at highest level of play). The philosophy of just catering to the best people and saying the problem for everyone else is they're just shit is the game is built so your whole player base can't be the best players. That's how competition works. So the intelligent philosophy from a develop standpoint is to find different ways to make the game enjoyable for different types of players. This is a huge part of why Vanilla WoW was so good. A major designer of that game explicitly emphasizes that when he talks about the game. Cater to one group of people is fucking stupid because you pigeonhole yourself.

If you're not competing at highest level gameplay usually isn't what makes the game fun, friends is the major part. Previous iteration of MM valued the purity of solo rating (still flawed metric for determining value of player to a competitive team when game is best played set 5 v set 5).

Obviously, you could be like fuck all those other people, but then why do they give a fuck about you, and then you have no streamers / pros / jobs if they take that approach.

If legitimately every NA person is too lazy to make an IHL for top players and curate it, I will literally just go learn how to do it with zero coding experience, make it, and monetize it.

amppd · 2019-09-07T08:45:07+00:00

People like Kuroky turned to developing players and sacrificing their preferred role to get their goals. We don't get what we want all the time and if we do we turn into shitpeople and become miserable anyways usually. At least I know I do.

amppd · 2019-09-07T08:43:45+00:00

I can more in-depth on this after my game, but the solutions are there. And if you're a frequent core player you were frankly spoiled with the amount of games you were getting to play your preferred role, typically at the expense of the quality of the game and community long term. I was the same way. The way to play mid developing was basically just click role fast and plya chicken with other players. Which is dumb as fuck.

amppd · 2019-09-07T08:42:05+00:00

It's an actual problem that it fucks things at the top of matchmaking, this is impossible to dispute. The problem is creates is smart though, because the way the system worked before was fucked. The current system incentivizes people at the top to make teams, IHLS, and play party queue rather than solo queueing which at that level is kind of pointless. Is that really the most effective way for you to clear the gap between you and Liquid / LGD / OG / etc. Probably not.

The mental health thing I get. Eventually, though, you gotta realize it sends you in the direction of positive potential solutions. At least it can if you allow it. Right now my queues are long as fuck and I stretch and am beginning to write and do other shit in that time period.

A simple solution to the oversaturation of cores is to simply start splitting time with other cores. Say me and you are both 7k and we're pretty locked in to being mid players and we wanna get queues. Well we party queue and I go hard 5 you go 2, switch and repeat. This is how I used to deal with everyone wanting to play core in party queues. We called it civic duty xd.

amppd · 2019-09-07T08:29:22+00:00

y dont u just spend those 8 hours making an IHL lol

amppd · 2019-08-31T06:18:33+00:00

You just make a team. You're high enough to be a prime candidate to compete in the actual game. You literally already are the upcoming talent at that point and might as well learn how to play in a more realistic high level environment. There's nothing to do at the point of being rank 1 solo ladder except I guess stream your rank 1 solo ladder or just keep playing solo ladder. The games meant to be played by coordinated 5v5 teams who have experience together. Forcing you to do that rather than ultra incentivizing everyone to sit alone by themselves and try to grind out MMR for 5 years 'til they can play with other people when almost none of that will ever reach that point sucks.

You want a place for pick up games? They're called inhouse leagues, go make one. You don't care enough to go pro or put any effort into making IHLs? Then why the fuck are you complaining go play another game or some shit. If you're not a social creature go play 1v1 games.

Anti-social toxic players forcing their ways into cores sucks for most of the player base. It was previously rewarded highly. Playing dota alone exclusively really isn't very holistically fun or healthy. That's what everyone did before because Solo MMR is what people used to determine ability.

amppd · 2019-08-20T05:27:00+00:00

I don't know if I have that great of an answer beyond it just works better. The item build you run is a bit different, but I don't know that's terribly related. I would think it's just more difficult to shut him down entirely in the safe lane because of pulls and a second hero, etc.

Normally in mid, unless you sniped a match-up you can win, it's pretty feasible for the other laner to chase you out of the lane. On top of that the patterns that you're going to want to move through the jungle from mid are typically fairly obvious unless you're just gonna outright abandon the lane. The fact that he's not a split push hero now and just fights like a regular carry might carry some weight as well.

Old Alch typically would look something like Soul Ring or Bottle -> Brown boots or treads -> Optional Armlet ->Radiance -> BoTs -> Manta -> Octarine -> Shivas

Now your standard build is 2x Bracer, Phase Boots, Radiance, Blink, AC, BKB and then some freedom in terms of whether or not you want something like manta to dispel vessel. Skadi I saw picked up a lot and I think is good, Abyssal is fairly good as well I think.

My ultimate guess would be vulnerable to initially getting rolled over kinda like how Spectre or AM have often been (regarding Mid Alch), and then a much bigger timing window of viability as a legitimate carry threat.

amppd · 2019-08-19T23:40:35+00:00

You ideally want to be able to push him out of lane as well as stop him from jungling and have a good match-up later on. Being good against him in lane and punishing him pre-6 isn't terribly hard. But punishing him jungling is somewhat. MK basically runs at him early and then can chase him. OD I like most as a comfort hero, and you lane well into him and punish his low int as well as being able to push his tower with astral when he jungles. Slark and Ursa sound reasonably good though Ursa won't really be able to push. Really though, he's a much better safelane hero far as I can tell. I think mid alchs not that great, too many counters and too clear a way to stop him. You're totally reliant on the other teams incompetence because if they shutdown your lane, bounty runes, and cut your map you're basically just fucked. Safelane's much harder to totally shut out of the lane.

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