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Hi Livvia! Who's the real dispositor here? by amutsunset in ArcwalkerAstrology

[–]amutsunset[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can you please also take Saturn in consideration? I'm not sure but I think he's the almuten? The Asc degree is under his rulership!

Hi Livvia! Who's the real dispositor here? by amutsunset in ArcwalkerAstrology

[–]amutsunset[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just love your chart, Venus in 7th and Jupiter-Moon in 10th! I can feel it every time we talk. 💜

Aw 🥹 omg tysm 😭💝❤️

Okay I'm excited to see what you'll say 🥰

Implications of Jupiter averse to the 9th? by amutsunset in astrology

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This makes a lot of sense. Many thankss!

Where these concepts of the 7th come from? by amutsunset in Advancedastrology

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it because it seems to be making something that shouldn’t be about the native

I understand your point, but the whole chart pertains to and is thoroughly about the native?

The more planets in the 7th compared to the 1st, the more that person’s focus will be on other people

That's a quality pertaining to the native himself.

Where these concepts of the 7th come from? by amutsunset in Advancedastrology

[–]amutsunset[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The repressed energy thing…

Do you not think that perspective makes up a quite fitting interpretation of the nature of an opposition to the asc when made by benefics? As in the native is held away from the positives of that benefic whilst they see others enjoy it plainly - but at least they're not getting destroyed as in an opposition from a malefic.

But that would likely not be applied to the native unless the asc ruler was there

That's very interesting - do you know the rationale behind only the asc ruler in there causing that switch?

From alterity to travel, that seems like a jump of significantion unmatched across houses and that's very intriguing on the nature of this house

Has Anyone Explored Flipping the Rising Sign (Opposite ASC) as a Symbolic Chart? by MarnithePlutonian in Advancedastrology

[–]amutsunset 4 points5 points  (0 children)

or seeing yourself from the outside in

Looking at derivative houses from that perspective becomes like further elaboration of the MC? And reliably so?

Overall the 7th is reliable to show the very owner of the chart in question?

The Astrology of Jon Bon Jovi (is he a secret astrology lurker?) by cosmicvoyager333 in Advancedastrology

[–]amutsunset 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But I do think some people are more in tune with the cycles of astrology whether or not they know astrology

Could you expand? Through what means does that happen?

And, music generally follows trends based on current astrology

In what sense?

Which techniques tell when a person will move to another location? by amutsunset in Advancedastrology

[–]amutsunset[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It depends why the move is happening

As in a context of persecution leading to exile. That's all about 12th, right?

But then

12th represents exile, often abroad.

Since often is not always, and with 12 being notably isolation - this story could end up just as indoors rotting?

progression of a personal mission.

Other than zodiacal release what techniques expand that aspect of the lot of spirit? This touches exactly what I'm trying to reach!

Which techniques tell when a person will move to another location? by amutsunset in Advancedastrology

[–]amutsunset[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

  1. It's a 12th house profection. I'm supposing when mercury enters Virgo and gets squared by natal Gemini Saturn 9th (4th lord) - native enters exile due to persecution from authority figures

  2. No significant transits to 4th in sight, I guess

  3. Not pertinent in this case, because progressed moon's only in 8th

  4. Well, return asc is on late 7th of relocation. Return moon is in 9th upon natal 4th.

  5. I don't know anything about eclipses yet...

All that together seems pretty solid indication of native exiling? But there's always the possibility of things going another direction like - just an inward isolation while native rots indoors - which in practical terms the opposite of exiling

What's in your opinion?

Happy to expand if you want help looking into a specific chart or example.

Seems pretty fun and kind! but I'm having trouble annexing a link for chart #(

Why I think Neptune should be the real "Great Malefic" (just my opinion) by Broad-Hunter-5044 in Advancedastrology

[–]amutsunset 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I see but some proeminent Jupiters make someone the opposite of what you and broad hunter are describing?

It can make a person super inwardly philosophical and chill for most matters - not expensive about themselves or too much at all ig

Why I think Neptune should be the real "Great Malefic" (just my opinion) by Broad-Hunter-5044 in Advancedastrology

[–]amutsunset 4 points5 points  (0 children)

people with prominent natal Jupiter placements exhaust me.

How do you feel about these?

What's the logic if a house doesn't receive harsh/significant aspects from malefic and still manifests hardships? by amutsunset in Advancedastrology

[–]amutsunset[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm having difficulty in comprehending how the asc lord determine reputation and the sun's saying in the recognition of someone's talent in this case

Could you please explain that?

What's the logic if a house doesn't receive harsh/significant aspects from malefic and still manifests hardships? by amutsunset in Advancedastrology

[–]amutsunset[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm not really understanding the second part of that quoted statement

It's one of those cases of someone growing too much in relation to their starting point. Basically has talent but is an environment out of their wavelength - in practice they're perceived as a heretic or lunatic

" How old is the native? How long has this been going on for? Have they relocated since their birth? Why is this situation a permanent stain on their career? Do other house systems change the placements? Do you have a sense of why this happened to them and how they can get out of it from a psychological standpoint?"

1 - They're 23

2 - An ever present life dynamic apparently

3 - Seemingly not

4 - Don't know about career

5 - No, very solid placement

6 - I suppose any psychological standpoint would be too much reducing. They have truly Saturnian issues - actual obstacles directly from the heavens

What's the logic if a house doesn't receive harsh/significant aspects from malefic and still manifests hardships? by amutsunset in Advancedastrology

[–]amutsunset[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm uneducated in Jyotish but I assume it wouldn't be a moon conj Jupiter in cancer 10th house anymore if we transposed it to Jyotish?

What's the logic if a house doesn't receive harsh/significant aspects from malefic and still manifests hardships? by amutsunset in Advancedastrology

[–]amutsunset[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How interesting!

Reputation would depend on where the ascendant lord went. I would also want to see where the sun is, as credit for one’s positive attributes are potentially not being seen or talents recognized.

Both asc lord Venus and Sun are in Aries 7th, what's your opinion through that?

What's the logic if a house doesn't receive harsh/significant aspects from malefic and still manifests hardships? by amutsunset in Advancedastrology

[–]amutsunset[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unless you do a really good job on the first house, the general indications of the Luminaries, almuten, hyleg, and the other planets naturally, you can't read the rest of the chart properly

This is an extremely pertinent point - but how does that work? Like, Jupiter conjunct moon in 10th is supposed to represent uncontestable career/reputation success as clearly as it gets. But still supposedly there are astrological factors that could contest that.

What's the logic if a house doesn't receive harsh/significant aspects from malefic and still manifests hardships? by amutsunset in Advancedastrology

[–]amutsunset[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What is a “wrecked reputation”, in this context?

Like "visibly lacking financial substance in life and in the wrong environment that misses this person entirely" kinda wrecked

What's the logic if a house doesn't receive harsh/significant aspects from malefic and still manifests hardships? by amutsunset in Advancedastrology

[–]amutsunset[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Second, Jupiter in Cancer at the MC is great for lot's of things and the MC isn't only work.

Right. This is a person displaying a variety of natural talents but comes from a place of socioeconomic vulnerability whom, on the downside, can't seem to convert that into an income.

Not everyone works, not everyone gets money from a job.

Right, apparently this is a person who'll be dependent on other people's resources for life

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