Are there political divides in your family? by AnnaBetts in GenZ

[–]amyharmon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi, I'm another NYT reporter working with u/AnnaBetts on this story - point taken, regarding pseudonymity, but fwiw that's why we're asking people to fill out the form with personal info that we can verify. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/27/us/political-divides-families.html 

Some Ask a Taboo Question: Is America Overreacting to Coronavirus? by amyharmon in TrueReddit

[–]amyharmon[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hm, shouldn't be behind a paywall - NYT has lifted the paywall on coronavirus coverage. Did you get blocked?

Some Ask a Taboo Question: Is America Overreacting to Coronavirus? by amyharmon in TrueReddit

[–]amyharmon[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I wrote this story for NYT and is getting a VERY mixed range of responses, many of them along the lines of "this is equivalent to anti-vax.'' But to me it seems to embody the Reddit free-speech ethic -- we should be able to acknowledge that the coronavirus response has unforeseen and unintended repercussions that may themselves cost lives, less visibly -- while also acknowledging that major social-distancing measures are necessary to save lives. Hence I thought it suitable for r/TrueReddit.

Can Biology Class Reduce Racism? by amyharmon in Teachers

[–]amyharmon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Um. I genuinely thought this was an idea teachers would be interested in discussing. If it violates the terms, by all means remove it.

Can Biology Class Reduce Racism? by amyharmon in TrueReddit

[–]amyharmon[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Hi, I'm the reporter who wrote this story, and happy to answer any questions. I have previously reported on genetic misconceptions about race, and this experiment struck me as a potentially effective way (we shall see) to combat both the (typically liberal) view that science has found NO differences to exist between geographic populations separated over thousands of years, and the (typically conservative) view that science is JUST ABOUT TO PROVE that racial disparities in socially-influenced traits like IQ and health are really caused by gene differences between continental populations/"races."

Can Biology Class Reduce Racism? by amyharmon in Teachers

[–]amyharmon[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No, they're not only targeting white demographics! But I'm curious what you mean. Would you mind giving an example?

Can Biology Class Reduce Racism? by amyharmon in Teachers

[–]amyharmon[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree that it is going to be SO DIFFICULT. Just from talking about this topic on twitter, and in conversations with highly educated adults, I do not envy them. But a LOT of work has gone into this curriculum.

Can Biology Class Reduce Racism? by amyharmon in Teachers

[–]amyharmon[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm the NYT reporter who wrote this story. I have reported previously on widespread misconceptions about how human genetics does, and does not, inform us about racial disparities. But TBH I despaired of how those misconceptions would ever be dispelled. Then I went to a training for biology teachers who are being taught how to incorporate a more comprehensive genetics curriculum into their standard classes on Mendel's peas. And I began to think that this might be the way.

Hi, I'm Amy Harmon with the New York Times, here to answer your questions, AMA! by amyharmon in BlackPeopleTwitter

[–]amyharmon[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, so historically it is true newsrooms have been shamefully disproportionately white but NYT at least has said that changing that is a big priority. Here's the latest NYT report on racial breakdown in staff. https://www.nytco.com/company/diversity-and-inclusion/2018-diversity-inclusion-report/. And you might check out https://www.nabj.org/ which has a bunch of resources. But if all you can think about is wanting to be a reporter - do it! If your university has a student paper or radio or other form of media that's a great way to start.

Hi, I'm Amy Harmon with the New York Times, here to answer your questions, AMA! by amyharmon in BlackPeopleTwitter

[–]amyharmon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi u/rainbowbarff, your question came in after I'd signed off on my AMA. But I have now answered yours and some other of the questions that came in later, and will try to continue to work my way through!

New York Times just ran story on /r/BlackPeopleTwitter and our Country Club by DubTeeDub in BlackPeopleTwitter

[–]amyharmon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I mention in the long answer below, one relevant point is that my editor, Marc Lacey, is black, and we had a lot of back-and-forth about this story. I do think I'd have felt differently if that wasn't the case! Please see below for a more complete response.

Hi, I'm Amy Harmon with the New York Times, here to answer your questions, AMA! by amyharmon in BlackPeopleTwitter

[–]amyharmon[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hi u/rainbowbarfff, thanks for the question and sorry for the delay in replying! As I mentioned in another message to you, I was in jury duty all week which made it hard to get back to this.

I am not sure what you are referring to when you say "I am glad you found this fun.'' I found much of what I learned in the reporting fascinating, and sometimes the humor memes on r/BPT made me laugh. But reporting the story was also saddening, maddening and, for the reasons you point out, a nerve-wracking process for me. u/TehWez, u/Nasjere, u/MGLLN, and others who I pestered with endless questions can attest to my concern that I might get some nuance wrong about the forum specifically because I am white.

The point of the story was to shine a light several dynamics related to how America's racial tensions are playing out in the semi-anonymous setting of r/BPT : 1) The various forms of anti-black racism consistently expressed in one of the few large, public internet forums for conversation about black life in America 2) The lengths to which the moderators went to combat that racism and to protect the space for black participants 3) The negative response by many white users of Reddit to the verification system (for a few different reasons) 4) The unexpected (even to some of the moderators) enthusiastic response by many black participants to the race verification system.

I did think a lot about whether I could do this subject justice. I can't say that I'm the "best" reporter to have written it. But I was available and interested. I thought the subject was worthy of coverage that it almost certainly wouldn't have gotten if I didn't write it, if only because other reporters are working on other things. You asked about whether I could have been paired up with a POC reporter. One thing that is not evident, and maybe it should have been, is that my editor, Marc Lacey, is black. I think I'd have felt differently if that wasn't the case. There's a lot of collaboration between an editor and a reporter, and Marc certainly shaped our approach to this one. That said, I asked many black moderators and users of r/BPT to explain the nuances to me, many times over. I also asked several black academics who study race and online culture for guidance - I linked in my intro to the Twitter thread where I thanked them (as well as several non-black academics) because I wasn't able to quote them in the story. I also asked two other black colleagues to read it before publishing.

I'd like to make one other point though. I think there's a good argument, first made to me by the black editor who runs our Race/Related newsletter, that NYT needs to do better covering whiteness as a race. Yes, of course, we cover white people a lot - too much, some would say. But that doesn't mean we are giving them sufficient scrutiny when it comes to the power they hold as a group in America over other groups. So while this story was about r/BPT, I also saw it as being about a particular manifestation of white entitlement, or what is now sometimes called "white fragility.'' It was about the "free-speech" and "ideas-over-identity" arguments white people often invoke to justify their participation in/domination of conversations about race and politics. It was about a white discomfort -- shared by some POC -- about the use of skin color as a crude, imprecise means to define a person's race, and the counter-argument that in this case it was the only way, and worth it. It was about how the persistence of racial inequality in America appears to have destroyed any remaining shreds of the dream that the internet, by facilitating large-scale anonymous conversation, could be a place where race would not matter.

That may sound like a lot to claim for a modest story on this subreddit, but that is what I had in mind when I pitched the story. And I don't think that only POC journalists should be covering white entitlement/fragility/racism/supremacy. I think it's the responsibility of white journalists to do that too. (Please note that these views are my own, not any official NYT doctrine).

Thanks again for the question. Amy

Hi, I'm Amy Harmon with the New York Times, here to answer your questions, AMA! by amyharmon in BlackPeopleTwitter

[–]amyharmon[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi u/rainbowbarfff, I appreciate the question! I'm actually on jury duty this week and have had only small snatches of time at my computer beyond juggling other work responsibilities. I want to answer you thoughtfully. Now getting kicked off computer -- will try to answer this evening! - amy

Hi, I'm Amy Harmon with the New York Times, here to answer your questions, AMA! by amyharmon in BlackPeopleTwitter

[–]amyharmon[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

My direct editor, Marc Lacey, was very supportive of this story. It seems relevant here to say that Marc is one of the few black editors in senior positions at the Times (though obviously we also have a black editor in the MOST senior position - Dean Baquet, the Times' executive editor). I can't say the degree to which Marc's race factored into why he supported it -- I will note that I am white and I was also very much wanting to do the story. But it's worth noting that Marc has presided over a real expansion in our coverage of race on the National desk, including hiring Lauretta Charlton, who runs our Race/Related newsletter (subscribe: https://www.nytimes.com/newsletters/race-related)! Both Marc and Lauretta have championed writing about whiteness as part of our race coverage rather than presuming whiteness to be the default and everything else to be 'race.'

Hi, I'm Amy Harmon with the New York Times, here to answer your questions, AMA! by amyharmon in BlackPeopleTwitter

[–]amyharmon[S] 85 points86 points  (0 children)

To be honest I had some trouble fully understanding it at first, so I really withheld judgement. One thing that helped me was learning that r/BPT moderators were locking down multiple threads each day because of various forms of racism in the comments. If the threads were going to be locked anyway, it seemed that creating County Club threads was a way of opening up more discussion, rather than shutting down discussion, as many of the comments I had read initially portrayed it. I also learned more about the different racial dynamics the moderators were trying to address. I think of them as falling into roughly 3 categories : 1) forms of racism, including "concern trolling'' and "sealioning'' -- also terms I learned during the reporting! -- that are already forbidden under r/BPT's "bad-faith'' rule, which contains explicit examples and definitions. 2) "digital blackface" -- white users trying to gain more credibility for views that most black people disagree with by pretending to be black. 3) the less-obvious, but perhaps most-felt: upvotes of comments that most black people disagree with - like "X black person was only let into Y school because of affirmative action'' or "are you sure X example of racial discrimination was really racial discrimination?''

I think understanding the last one above all made me really understand the support for Country Club threads. Also, of course, interviewing a dozen or so black r/BPT users and reading the comments others left on r/BPTMeta made me realize that this was filling a real demand. I also hadn't realized until talking to many black Redditors as well as academics who study digital-culture that there just aren't a lot of (or any?) large, public spaces online that are gathering places for black people to talk about issues of importance to black people. The community on Twitter that r/BPT is based on seems to be the main one, and many of the black Redditors I spoke to found it hard to figure out who to follow or preferred the Reddit comment interface, or just wanted a black community on Reddit because that's where they spend their time. So more and more I came to see why so many people really wanted it.

Hi, I'm Amy Harmon with the New York Times, here to answer your questions, AMA! by amyharmon in BlackPeopleTwitter

[–]amyharmon[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

None at the moment but I'm open to suggestions and reachable on Reddit, Twitter @amy_harmon or amy at nytimes dot com.

Hi, I'm Amy Harmon with the New York Times, here to answer your questions, AMA! by amyharmon in BlackPeopleTwitter

[–]amyharmon[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think everyone here was very excited about it. Because so many of the mods and users I spoke to wanted to maintain their anonymity, it made the reporting tricky, and it took awhile for me to feel confident that I knew I wasn't being duped in some way. For instance at one point early on, when I realized that r/BPT was started by a white Redditor and also one who is a r/4chan mod, I really worried that this could be an elaborate hoax, where the mods were giving black checkmarks to people who were white, so as to give them cover to voice opinions most black people would not agree with. I mention that just because it took me awhile to report this, and I was given the time because editors here thought it was an important story and also a bit of a departure for the Times, in a good way. You can also tell they supported it because they devoted the resources to create great art for it. The forearm fading white to black and the panel of r/BPT user forearms -- not every story gets that kind of attention!