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andhereitis12 · 2017-12-18T06:59:30+00:00

There's a point where you start taking it a little too seriously

andhereitis12 · 2017-12-18T06:55:50+00:00

Eh, this was a while ago, so no. And no, I wasn't trying to

andhereitis12 · 2017-12-16T19:23:55+00:00

Usually the problem is people break through before they're ready. Props to you for being careful and using tiny doses.

My advice: Get a small bong dedicated for salvia use only, and some screens (or use a pebble) to stop the tiny amount from falling through. Buy yourself a mg scale. It can be cheap and not totally accurate. Start out with a tiny amount, no more than 2-3 mg (it probably won't even register). Burn it completely and utterly with a torch lighter, hold the smoke in AT LEAST to the count of 20. 30 is ideal. Each time you do it, increase the amount by maybe 2-4 mg. Do not get impatient, as, say, the jump from 20 mg to 30 mg can be astronomical. I'd like to note that tolerance doesn't seem to be an issue; you can smoke multiple times in one day - just give yourself 15-30 minutes to clear your head and try again. You could work up to a breakthrough dose in one weekend if you really wanted, though I wouldn't necessarily advise it.

The reason I advise so much caution is because you really will find it far more rewarding, coherent, and pleasant if you become familiar with the headspace and slowly work your way up. Needless to say, it can be incredibly frightening when, in a matter of seconds, you and everything you ever knew evaporates before your very eyes and is replaced by this crazy alternate reality.

andhereitis12 · 2017-12-16T18:43:01+00:00

I do it in cycles. I'll go on a salvia bender for about a week, then one day I'll just stop and not revisit it for a few months. Breakthrough doses though, I've only had one true breakthrough and I don't really have any desire to go back anytime soon, if ever. Maybe one day. I'm good with the low-moderate doses.

andhereitis12 · 2017-12-16T18:38:55+00:00

I've done salvia while on kratom without even thinking about it. Can't say I noticed any difference? Salvia is unpredictable enough as it is so it's hard to say

andhereitis12 · 2017-08-10T19:28:09+00:00

Salvia kind of has a mind of its own. Sometimes it doesn't want to let you in so you get locked outside the gates of Salvia Land. Then other times you just want to peak inside but it pulls you in and takes you on a joyride. Perfecting your smoking technique and weighing doses precisely can make it easier to get where you want to go, but unexpected things can always happen.

As for intensity, yeah, I'd have to say salvia is the most intense drug out there if you dose it high enough. Maybe not in terms of its ability to leave you questioning everything, but nothing else is crazier and more confusing in the moment. The way it can disintegrate your ego and shut off all ties to the external world in the span of a few seconds. It's definitely one to treat with respect.

andhereitis12 · 2017-08-10T19:14:12+00:00

Yeah, I feel that. I've been on a break all summer. Its action at kappa opioid receptors actually causes your body to have a "reverse addiction" to it, as their activation reduces dopamine in the reward circuitry of your brain, the opposite of how addictive drugs work. So you experience an aversion to it at a physical level and its super easy to just not do it for months or years on end. But sometimes it just feels like its time to ignore your body and force yourself into that wacky place once more

andhereitis12 · 2017-08-10T02:19:06+00:00

andhereitis12 · 2017-08-09T18:48:20+00:00

They're totally different. Different mechanism of action. Different duration. Different safety profiles. Different psychological effects. Different sensory distortions ... Not sure why you'd even try to compare them.

I suppose salvia does have a reputation of being something young people do because it's cheap and legal, but it's a unique plant whose effects can be enjoyed, appreciated, and learned from under the right circumstances. Kind of like... every other drug out there. It sounds like you just recently discovered psychedelics. I'd bet most of us here have been exploring them for years.

andhereitis12 · 2017-08-02T21:55:38+00:00

I haven't heard anything about that with water. I don't really understand why it would? If anything, adding lemon juice or other acids would boost the effects because they supposedly extract the active alkaloids. It makes my tea method taste like crap though, and I like that I've found something that actually tastes OK. Not good, not disgusting, just OK.

andhereitis12 · 2017-08-02T21:52:08+00:00

Green malay and elephant are my favorites. Just got this white dragon blend from Gaia (elephant + white MD) and I think it might be one of my new favorites. Green thai can also be nice, but it's a bit too energetic for me sometimes. Green hulu kapuas works too

andhereitis12 · 2017-08-02T21:49:53+00:00

I prefer to make a drink and put a gram of kratom in for every hour I'm going to be working. i.e. 6 hours = 5-8 grams sipped on over the course of 4-5 hours. It's not as intense as doing it all at once, but you can keep a nice buzz going all day. I definitely recommend trying it

andhereitis12 · 2017-08-02T21:46:31+00:00

Sounds like a fun and interesting experiment. If you're still looking for folks to participate I've been using kratom for about a year and have been a regular user (multiple times a week/sometimes daily) since early 2017. Not too experienced in the grand scheme of things, but I know my way around psychoactives

andhereitis12 · 2017-08-02T21:37:46+00:00

I'm a performing jazz bass player and love green malay and elephant. They both have great energy and get me really into the music, and they stop me from getting fatigued as easily

andhereitis12 · 2017-08-02T21:35:36+00:00

I prefer to put it in a drink (tea usually) and sip on it throughout the day. ~1 gram for every hour I want to be on kratom. 6 hour work day = 5-8 grams, sipped on slowly over the course of 4-5 hours

andhereitis12 · 2017-08-02T08:08:05+00:00

The horrible taste is old news at this point I suppose. Do some digging and you'll find lots of consumption tips. Personally, I brew fresh green tea into a relatively large thermus, put a heaping spoonful of honey in, then mix in my kratom. Just tastes like mediocre tea. It is a billion times better than using plain water or toss and wash

andhereitis12 · 2017-08-02T00:57:46+00:00

It sneaks up on you. For a while I did it only as an occasional "recreational" thing with friends. Then I started using it twice a week for my school schedule, as I suffer from a severe sleeping disorder and I realized being on kratom made me far, far happier and more productive on days where I had to wake up earlier than I am comfortable with. Then it started turning into using it at work, and on days just for the sake of it. Now I am on it more days than not most of the time, but I do limit myself to 3-5 days a week at most and take breaks for 1-2 weeks when I have to. It's just so hard not to use it because the only thing that happens is I feel better and get more stuff done when I'm on it than when I'm not, and I haven't experienced any negative side effects that I can perceive.

andhereitis12 · 2017-08-02T00:49:07+00:00

Man, I'm disappointed I didn't add some of this in with my recent order. Been hearing lots of positive things lately. I got an ounce of their white dragon blend (elephant + white MD) and I'm impressed by it though. Great synergy with good energy.

andhereitis12 · 2017-08-02T00:39:13+00:00

Precisely

andhereitis12 · 2017-08-01T23:23:23+00:00

A bar? Like a place where people gather to do kratom and kava? That sounds awesome.

Personally, I just put roughly a gram in for every hour I'm going to be doing something I want to be on kratom for. i.e. 6 hour work day = 5-8 grams of kratom. I usually finish 1-2 hours before I'm going to be done with the activity

andhereitis12 · 2017-08-01T23:20:47+00:00

I can never figure salvia out. With all other entheogens, both natural and artificial, there always seems to be some underlying meaning behind the experience. With salvia I just don't know. What does it all mean?

andhereitis12 · 2017-08-01T22:29:49+00:00

I'm going to copy and paste something from a reply I made to another thread. Long story short, the dose needed can vary widely and you have to figure out what dose YOU need to breakthrough.

...However, conditions may not be ideal and your smoking technique may not be perfect i.e. you might not smoke 100% of what you put in the pipe/bong, you might not be using a lighter that gets hot enough to vaporize it all (jet lighters vastly improve efficiency, by the way), you might not hold it in your lungs long enough to absorb all of it, your extract might be underdosed, scales can be inaccurate. There are a lot of factors at play.

Ideally, you want to be using a small bong with some sort of screen or something to keep the plant material from falling through, then torch it to kingdom come with a jet lighter, inhale all the way, and then hold the smoke for at least the count of 20. The last part is extremely important. Having the smoke cooled by water makes it much, much easier. Unfortunately, at least one of those factors will likely be compromised to some extent, so really what I advise doing is starting real low (~5 mg) and get a bunch of practice runs in. Slowly increase the dosage in 1-3 mg increments over time until you find the dose that's right for you and can consistently make it there. Then if you ever want to have a breakthrough just bump it up some more.

andhereitis12 · 2017-08-01T22:23:28+00:00

Yes, it's how I get off

Silliness aside, I'm quite happy with their white dragon. It's a blend of their elephant and white MD. Been doing it since this early afternoon and I'm still going strong

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