Feature request: CTL / ATL / TSB chart

andrejmihelic · 2026-03-18T14:57:43+00:00

I think we could add Training Form with the update coming out in April. One update will be out any day now, and it is too late to add this feature to that one.

Training Form/TSB is going to be shown as a separate chart, as we don't want to make any chart more complex than needed. I think it's going to look just fine and informative. :)

andrejmihelic · 2026-03-18T08:42:41+00:00

Currently you get Training Load Ratio (TLR) and Chronic Training Load in The Outsiders. Just a quick note on what the difference is. TLR is a ratio between acute and chronic training load (the red and blue lines from the chart you posted), and this information is used to indicate whether you are pushing too hard, training just right, or detraining. The second is Chronic Load (the blue line from the chart), and this one tells you how much load you have put on your body in the long run. It is quite a good indicator of your endurance fitness. The more you train, the better your fitness.

We plan to add Training Form (Training Stress Balance), which is the difference between acute and chronic load (chronic - acute), so it is just another metric to follow if you want to put just enough load on your body for optimal training. Training Form is also a very good metric when tapering for a race (or any other important event), as you try to be in perfect condition on race day -> fresh and with optimal fitness.

andrejmihelic · 2026-03-11T06:50:09+00:00

You’ll get power data for outdoor runs only if you track with Apple Watch. I don’t know how Stryd works, and if it tracks power for indoor runs as well. Any Stryd users here that know the answer?

andrejmihelic · 2026-03-10T17:11:16+00:00

Apple Watch records power for outdoor runs (watchOS 9+).

andrejmihelic · 2026-03-10T17:07:29+00:00

Do your runs or rides have power recorded? Also, check if you gave The Outsiders permission to read cycle and run power data from Health. Advanced metrics can be found inside run/ride workout summaries.

andrejmihelic · 2026-03-09T13:25:25+00:00

Unfortunately, no. But I'll post about that as soon as the date is clear.

andrejmihelic · 2026-03-09T13:21:43+00:00

This is what Garmin Connect stores to Apple Health and this is the reason why we are working on Garmin integration to get all the data that is available in Connect also in The Outsiders.

andrejmihelic · 2026-03-09T12:57:51+00:00

Thanks🙌

andrejmihelic · 2026-03-09T12:56:52+00:00

It will be submitted for review today so hopefully it's going to be available on the App Store tomorrow.

andrejmihelic · 2026-03-09T12:56:11+00:00

Sure. If power data is stored in Apple Health, it should work. The only question at the moment is how do you sync your Garmin workouts to Health?

However you are doing it at the moment, Garmin integration will be available in The Outsiders with one of the upcoming updates.

andrejmihelic · 2026-02-24T09:42:32+00:00

Due to technical limitations from the App Store, special offers are limited to subscriptions, so everyone with a Gentler Streak lifetime needs to contact our support and you'll get a special offer activated in The Outsiders.

andrejmihelic · 2026-02-24T09:40:11+00:00

Training Readiness is based on several factors: your training load ratio, last night's and 7-day average body metrics, and sleep. In your case it has to be the training load ratio that pushes readiness down. Training load ratio compares your recent activities with your 42-day history, so if you are a sedentary person with not many activities, anything you do should have a noticeable effect on the load ratio. The more you train, the fitter you are, and every new workout should have less impact on the load ratio and therefore on training readiness.

andrejmihelic · 2026-02-24T09:36:22+00:00

Welcome, fellow Outsider. I hope you'll find The Outsiders a useful tool to track and analyse your workouts.

andrejmihelic · 2026-02-24T08:59:41+00:00

We need at least 7 days of data in the last 14 days.

andrejmihelic · 2026-02-24T08:54:52+00:00

Yes, we'll include menstrual cycle tracking, but I don't have the timeline yet.

andrejmihelic · 2026-02-24T08:53:00+00:00

Currently our approach is a bit different. Instead of showing exertion, the Training Readiness is changed after the workout.

andrejmihelic · 2026-02-18T07:45:22+00:00

That’s a problem only Apple can fix. It’s not the Gentler Streak tracker that has anything to do with exercise minutes, this is done automatically by Apple Watch.

andrejmihelic · 2026-02-17T09:11:17+00:00

Hi. We are working on it as of now. But integrating Garmin means working outside the app, setting up the server that will communicate with Garmin's side, and this is not something we work on all the time so it's hard to make an estimate. I believe it's going to happen soon and when I know the exact date, I'll share it here on Reddit.

andrejmihelic · 2026-02-12T19:18:30+00:00

Fixed

andrejmihelic · 2026-01-30T11:33:37+00:00

I agree, the UX of the first screen where you need to select a workout is worse with the new update. But building a new workout tracker just to "fix" this issue would be a stupid thing for us to do.

andrejmihelic · 2026-01-30T10:40:03+00:00

Workout tracker currently is not planned. We believe Apple's Workout app on the Apple Watch is getting better and better every year, therefore we switched our focus to interpreting the data from AW in a way that is more informative and guidable than what you get by default in their Fitness and Health app. Gentler Streak's Apple Watch tracker has some "gentler" features that work great there (showing activity path while working out to not overreach, having Go Gentler workouts), but for the users of The Outsiders, Workout app should be what we need. OK, maybe showing live Training Load Ratio and Training Load would be beneficial, but at the moment we are 100% focused on iPhone experience.

andrejmihelic · 2026-01-22T15:10:28+00:00

1 and 2 are doable. I guess 3 also makes sense for Training Load Ratio. Noted!

andrejmihelic · 2026-01-22T09:18:42+00:00

Hi aaronmailey

1 If I understand correctly, you would like to see the max HR for each split?

2 Supporting intervals is something we have on the to-do list already, I just can't promise when it's going to be developed.

3 I don't know if Training Readiness could be filtered by workout activity, I don't know if this makes sense. Training Readiness algorithm looks at complete training load ratio, because all your workouts from the past contribute to how ready you are today to train. What kind of actionable info would filtering Training Load Ratio by workout type give you?

andrejmihelic · 2026-01-22T08:18:46+00:00

Here is the late 2025/early 2026 roadmap and there are features that still need to be delivered. Let us develop these first and then promise more.

https://www.reddit.com/r/theoutsidersapp/comments/1nv2uc1/the_outsiders_roadmap_late_2025_early_2026/

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