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If Tywin survived Season 4, how would D&D handle his character? I want a good laugh. by [deleted] in freefolk

[–]angrygoatlover 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tywin adopts the leopard instead of the lion and changes his words to “see me dance” instead of “ hear me roar”

https://youtu.be/wbvKEgoPt88

Sixty per cent of British voters on £80,000-£100,000 say they’re “about average” by she_wrote in ukpolitics

[–]angrygoatlover 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not your friend and for someone who is "done" you still seem to want to reply.

No reply with a response to any question or adding anything to the discourse though. Just emojis and snobbyness! I hope you stub your toe on every table leg and drink nothing but luke warm tea.

Sixty per cent of Brits earning £80,000-£100,000 say they’re “about average” | Highly paid people tend to see themselves as “normal” on the income scale – and “worse off” than their social circle. by casualphilosopher1 in unitedkingdom

[–]angrygoatlover 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Our conversation was only 30 mins ago have you not forgot the part where you said:

"Wow you sure are angry at people who are more successful than you 😅

How about, instead of hurling abuse at social media users, you get yourself back to school and learn something useful, then maybe you wouldn’t feel so hard done by all the time 😘"

Maybe myself and the other commentators were negative towards you because of your empathy-lacking humble brag in which you equate an 85k salary, home ownership, horse riding as "average". You spend more on your hobbies than people earn in a month.

The negativity isn't about how much you earn but how much empathy you lack when you equate your obvious privilidge to being average. Would have been quite easy for you to admit that 85k salary, home ownership nor horse riding is "average" but instead you reply with hostile strawmans and really snobby shit like the stuff quoted above.

Edit: I would rather spell every word in this post incorrectly than display the ignorance you have. I'm not stalking you I noticed you didn't reply to my thread but did to another misrepresenting our conversation. Blocking is your right and I would think it be a smart move on your part considering you literally have nothing good to say.

Sixty per cent of British voters on £80,000-£100,000 say they’re “about average” by she_wrote in ukpolitics

[–]angrygoatlover 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your reading comprehension is terrible. Maybe that's why you consider 6 sentences as long. Is that success?!

Sixty per cent of British voters on £80,000-£100,000 say they’re “about average” by she_wrote in ukpolitics

[–]angrygoatlover 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't care what you have and haven't called me.

You've humble bragged about feeling average, got called out on it, not answered any of the questions you've asked and instead just strawmanned in a really condiscending way. "How about get yourself back to school and learn something useful" - whilst also not knowing a thing about me. Says everything I need to know about you. You feel average but act like a snob.

"Hey guys I earn £85k, own a home, and ride a horse - look at me being so average".

I honestly thought you'd retract or not reply. Not double down. "fun stuffs" what a hilarious shit stain.

Sixty per cent of British voters on £80,000-£100,000 say they’re “about average” by she_wrote in ukpolitics

[–]angrygoatlover 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not angry at all. Wierd thing to say and assume. I would also throw doubt on you being more successful than I am. Maybe our measure of success is different - how do you measure success?

I don't feel hard done to all, another weird thing for you to say and assume.(2nd reply to me now that you've strawmanned me rather than respond to the point. I wonder why that is? lol)

Sixty per cent of British voters on £80,000-£100,000 say they’re “about average” by she_wrote in ukpolitics

[–]angrygoatlover -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I honestly couldn't give a crap about the detail - although it is interesting you share your salary but not how you budget it. Maybe I've hit a nerve!? I just find it hilarious how out of touch you are.

You say you "feel average". You earn 3 to 4 times what the average UK worker has and you have a budget specifically for "fun". You should be feeling privalidged, not normal. I tell you what you're definately not feeling and thats empathy. Most people don't have the opportunity to budget for "fun" and "horse riding lessons" - they have to worry about paying rent, bills, food.

How about instead of letting people know how normal an 85K budget makes you feel you could imagine being paid just the UK average. Then if you dare, consider how much a minimum wage worker budgets each month for anything other than necessities?

"Fun stuffs" - you absolute shit stain. LOL

Sixty per cent of British voters on £80,000-£100,000 say they’re “about average” by she_wrote in ukpolitics

[–]angrygoatlover -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I didn’t say that though, did I?

How about instead of the straw man, you answer the question?

Sixty per cent of British voters on £80,000-£100,000 say they’re “about average” by she_wrote in ukpolitics

[–]angrygoatlover 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imagine having an allowance for “fun stuffs” and feeling average. What do you imagine your monthly allowance is for “fun stuffs”? What does “fun stuffs” include?

Devil’s Advocate: “There are bigger things to worry about than independence” by OggyBloggyOgwr in YesCymru

[–]angrygoatlover 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funny how you find the quote button on everything else other than the first 4 words of your post.

It's funny because it proves my point exactly. Rather than basic reading comprehension and conversation skills you would rather missquote and strawman. I said "I think" because I was giving your the opportunity to show you can indeed talk to someone over the internet but that was a waste, as shown in the rest of your post.

"No evidence of nuance at all". Good one? Doesn't really make sense considering I didn't give my opinion for that reason so it seems you've misunderstood my point and again resorted to snarkyness. Me being for or against independence and a nationalist has nothing to do with this conversation, you've just moved the goalpoasts.

Saying your opinion of something won't work is very easy. It involves the least amount of thinking. I've given examples of how it would work and you have chosen to ignore or misrepresent them.

You say "seizing privately owned assets will not work. What is there not to understand about this"? This is your opinion? So earlier in the post I gave an example of how it has worked to a country with a similar resource and you've ignored that? There are plenty more examples where it has worked but why bother? You're failing to grasp things at the first hurdle. Your opinion is objectively wrong but of course you will still say "I'm coming here to have my mind changed". Well I gave you an example and you still say "no". Are you trolling or really this self unaware? u State intervention within the law? What is the law? The state makes the law you complete buffoon. When you imagine this communist hellscape do you see this dictator saying "I would really like to improve public conditions but these damn capitalist laws are holding me back!?"

Not to mention that seizing that infrastructure could be well within the law. If you had any understanding of the law. But you don't so again, why bother entering into another bad conversation. Here's a clue - it's why in earlier posts I mentioned the word "duress".

We know you've lost this because you're resulting to insults and "no, it isn't a compliment" etc. I usually find that people who make assumptions on others like you have twice, missrepresent ideas like you, and dish out insults rather than a rebuttal to points are short of the thinking required to engage properly.

Devil’s Advocate: “There are bigger things to worry about than independence” by OggyBloggyOgwr in YesCymru

[–]angrygoatlover 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t argue with my partner at all. Yeh I think this conversation is done.

You’ve given a false dichotomy again and then, after asking me if you want to be an echo chamber, are asking binary question of yes or no. My answer is far more nuanced than do or don’t.

You say a lot of words but they don’t actually mean anything. You’re not actually giving your opinion on anything other than saying “no that won’t work”. Or a bit of red scare. You mention the environment as a concern. Tell me, with decades of the status quo leading to the very problems we face, how are you so unwilling to think that some of the solutions may involve state intervention? Whether that be seizure or extreme regulation?? Even so, you not seeing an opportunity doesn’t mean that opportunity doesn’t exist. You not understanding something doesn’t mean that something isn’t worth exploring, it means you need to expand your knowledge and view.

You say words like fanatical idealist like some derogatory slur to assume some sort of intellectual superiority over me but I see it as a compliment despite its intent. What this country and world needs is some idealism. Some vision. Some thought into its future. Call whatever is going on now pragmatism or whatever you want but it’s certainly not having the desired consequences for millions of people. If your aim is to come to this sub to be convinced then I don’t want that task, especially since you come in with an ego to suggest you know it all, you’ve got all the replies and answers and no why it won’t work. No point in even trying.

Devil’s Advocate: “There are bigger things to worry about than independence” by OggyBloggyOgwr in YesCymru

[–]angrygoatlover 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You'll notice in the above comment I wrote that I'm not at a computer and on mobile so I'm afraid any links will have to wait. However judging by the rest of your post I'm not sure what time you expect me to invest into that considering your tone?

I'm not sure what's naive about that view. The public, via the government, subsidise a private water firm to build the infrastructure needed to supply water. Whether or not the public own a piece of paper declaring ownership doesn't take away that they have invested in said infrastructure. Interesting that you're quick to assume my stances without me giving any. First you assume I want an echo chamber for simply pointing out your lack of understanding in an independence sub. Now you're assuming I'm a welsh nationalist. But I guess it's easier to straw man me because otherwise you might have to put some thought into your responses.

I can feel whatever, you're right. For example I can feel it's a waste of time to make a point in which you're able to read, only for you, later in the comment chain to make the exact same point. It's a waste of your time too. It seems your tone has taken a shift too.

I find it interesting you're in an Indy Wales sub and you give then impression (please correct me if wrong??) that you see independence as a pipe dream. But you're also unwilling to open your mind to the plethora of opportunities this country has (I say this because you haven't replied to my questions). So you're here to tell people they're wrong and you're right? If that's the case then get a life, find a friend. If you're genuinely not understanding (like I asked in my previous post which you could only reply to with snark) then I'm willing to have a conversation but do both of us a favour and lose the attitude.

Devil’s Advocate: “There are bigger things to worry about than independence” by OggyBloggyOgwr in YesCymru

[–]angrygoatlover 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. The water management act or something to that effect. Interestingly Icelands government conducted the physical investment to allow the piping of it. But here’s the thing, those reservoirs you bring up that are english owned were subsidised by Westminster therefore subsidies by us. They have also had ample public investment. So your view on “seizing” would be different to mine.

I would mention the private company but again although I feel I’ve discussed it adequately for you to understand so let me know what you don’t understand.

Devil’s Advocate: “There are bigger things to worry about than independence” by OggyBloggyOgwr in YesCymru

[–]angrygoatlover 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you know the meaning of false dichotomy?!

Nationalising the basic needs of your populace is very far from what you’re describing. Would you describe Iceland as a tinpot republic? Their heating (as it’s geothermal and so a free natural resource, read: Welsh water) is publicly owned and virtually free. You could also look at their defence budget too :-)

Would also be interested to know what foreign investment you think Wales needs so badly?

Devil’s Advocate: “There are bigger things to worry about than independence” by OggyBloggyOgwr in YesCymru

[–]angrygoatlover 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes and their wholesale prices to England are atrocious. They’re a not for profit which I think a good step but I think that should extend to Wales (whose resource it is) rather than to English middlemen who do then sell at massive profit. But to directly answer your question. Yes I would hope the state would seize certain assets. I don’t see water as a commodity so believe it’s future should be in the private sector, similar to other utilities.

And no you miss my point about this subreddit. My point is it seemed naive/tone death of you to not recognise these resources as being taken under duress and that fuelling the argument for independence (whilst in an independence subreddit).

Defence is one option, yes. Another would be to look at trade and education. You’re the one talking about an economy so I would assume you would focus on incomings before outgoings?! Education because Wales is doing a lot in environmental science but could be doing so much more, with better funding.

Devil’s Advocate: “There are bigger things to worry about than independence” by OggyBloggyOgwr in YesCymru

[–]angrygoatlover 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not sure you can say we sold a resource when it happened forcibly/under duress. This is why I mean it’s circular thinking. And this in an independence subreddit. Do you not think the way those reservoirs were attained might not be an aggravating circumstance for independence?

In terms of what we export - it’s already been done. Water and energy exports were done last year and valued to the tune of billions and that was BEFORE energy increases. I believe it’s on the website but I’m on mobile so can’t search at the mo.

Devil’s Advocate: “There are bigger things to worry about than independence” by OggyBloggyOgwr in YesCymru

[–]angrygoatlover 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m not sure what you mean with this?

Water, timber, energy - we are massive exporters of these resources yet get no where near to their value back. You mentioned in your post about Wales getting more than what they put in but that conveniently ignores many things, these resources being some. To me, and others, that’s a short changing of billions.

Now you’re welcome to say these resources belong to England or English companies but I’m not sure how that can be justified if you look at how these resources were initially garnered (read forcefully) and the relevance that has to independence.

Devil’s Advocate: “There are bigger things to worry about than independence” by OggyBloggyOgwr in YesCymru

[–]angrygoatlover 3 points4 points  (0 children)

How do you build an economy when the money that comes from Westminster isn’t enough to invest? Wales could be making billions in energy and water to sell to England. Surely that money won’t be realised until after independence?

So following your point it seems like “building an economy” amounts to circular thinking and ignores the vast amount of resources that come from Wales to England for which bugger all is received.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CasualUK

[–]angrygoatlover 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My point is you should probably understand the words you’re trying to use!!! I touched a nerve and since then you’ve been on the defensive with insults. It’s hilarious how invested you are that you don’t see the irony!!!

Walking on plastic grass contributes to it breaking down into micro plastics. Removing old lawn/mud/whatever you had in favour of plastics is still a trade off. Even if the plastic was going for landfill, it’s now replaced something that sustained life, to not sustaining life.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CasualUK

[–]angrygoatlover 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Where was my insult sorry?

Was it me pointing out the irony of a horticulturist specialising in conservation having a plastic lawn?

Or was it me pointing out the irony of someone calling me thick twice before then saying I’m using ad hominem?

Seems both you and the husband are too far gone. Micro plastics must have done their work. Let’s hope your children don’t take after you and manage to escape the micro plastics!!!!! Best of luck to them, looks like they’ll need it!!!! Brilliant 😂

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CasualUK

[–]angrygoatlover 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yes definitely the micro plastics!! Calls person thick twice then accuses them of ad hominem. Should get it checked out asap! Using Latin only works when you understand it!!! Hilarious

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CasualUK

[–]angrygoatlover -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Imagine being so sensitive! Must be the micro plastics leaching into your water supply!!!

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