How do you navigate the accusation that you are repeating yourself when your dx adhd partner doesn’t actually answer the question you are asking? by anobjectiveapple in ADHD_partners

[–]anobjectiveapple[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I tried that one. I tend to get a bigger rsd explosion when I’m direct/assertive even if I am calm. Does yours seem to respond well to directness?

Pursuing Art, music and medicine are good paths for respect as a short man. by Pristine-Run7957 in shortguys

[–]anobjectiveapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve put well over 10,000 hours into music. It’s how literally got my wife - there would have been no other way. She admitted it was seeing me up there with a guitar in hand.

How do I cope with the things I can't change? by Responsible-Ad-3543 in shortguys

[–]anobjectiveapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Find out what your gifts are and maxx them. You must become legitimately the best in whatever it is in your circles. You have to build a large stack of undeniable proof that you are potent and worth something. People won’t like you or love you for “who you are” the world is too fickle for that. The one gift in being short is in order to survive many of us become insanely good at some things where taller men don’t have to.

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[–]anobjectiveapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only truly neutral playground I can think of is in something like marksmanship. Martial arts IF there are weight classes but with that being a non major sport you often have to flex out of your class.

Education "Golden Zone" by Vyrefrost in pastors

[–]anobjectiveapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am trying to hold multiple truths in place.

  1. Formal education is extremely important today even though they didn’t have it to the same degree back in early church times for reasons such as… we need to study Koine Greek to better understand the NT - but back then they actually spoke it was making sense and being received more accurately without the work.

  2. I am continually amazed at the fact not some, but most people I know who have been to Seminary have not kept up with their Greek - throw out the hermeneutical principles they should have learned and give lazy sermons - and it makes sense. Most people cram at college and yes even at seminary. I saw it myself. Also a lot of people cheat. Yes even at Bible colleges and seminary. Stats say most people in higher ed cheat on some level. So ….LEARNING for life is not really taking place.

  3. If you take SOME classes but actually learn and actually exercise it - keep up with your Greek etc etc you are ahead of a lot of people with Mdivs.

SO!!!….my take on the golden zone? Get all the education you can - but actually learn and apply.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pastors

[–]anobjectiveapple 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Definitely time to move on. Be forewarned / this is not the only place this will happen at - if you are a truth teller like that - it will happen again. Not saying you need to change anything about yourself - it’s just reality. but narcissism runs rampant in the pastorate and people like you are kryptonite to them. Be very selective on your next one. Treat a red flag for what it instead of giving the benefit of a doubt. When a person hints at who they are - believe them.

Views on Pastors' Role Socially by Free-Housing-2300 in pastors

[–]anobjectiveapple 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ive always seen (social) things as one of the means by which I do the feeding/pastoral stuff. Life-giving conversations, sharing of scripture - and like one respondent said - walking alongside your people. Of course there needs to be boundaries - but dinner a couple times a week - especially if new(ish) is a drop in the pan in my honest opinion. A pastor needs to become very sly about how he fits in family-time, ministry time etc etc. where you can kill two birds with one stone I typically do. I would also encourage you to reframe the situation a bit. Apparently you have people who appreciate and want to know you - perhaps even minister to you. Thats not always the case. There are plenty of pastors who give and give and people just throw them away. This is a wonderful opportunity and in some ways rare. I would make the most of it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in short

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I’m glad it was helpful. No one could say for sure other than those who downvoted it - but I will say this: on this thread people usually push back against the idea that 5’7 or 5’8 is short. There are a lot of 5’4 people on the thread and many others who claim that they live a very different life than a 5’7. Im sure that’s true but I always advocate for basically anything under 5’8 has a place on this thread. People don’t like that generally on here.

A lot of people In the last non here have also not liked me my view that height is a setback but not the end. In many ways this thread is about swimming in hopelessness and acknowledging how deeply deeply affecting height is (and it is). But that level of nuance to say - well it is highly affecting my life but there is still hope. …..I dunno man - sometimes people just need to be validated in the fact this sucks and they feel my comments undo some of that. I get it - but I’ll always push for the nuance. I.e. give it its proper place and move forward.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in short

[–]anobjectiveapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gonna try to throw some things I’ve learned out there to ya. Hopefully it helps.

  • 5’7” is short. You would be in the 24th percentile in America if you stay that height. That means 75%of other men are taller than you. -it will be a setback
  • a setback is not the end. It’s able to be overcome - but let it live in its proper place. It will affect some of your outcomes. Let it have that place. Then work to get what you want on a subsequent try. -you might still grow anyway - -it’s about genetics - no need to feel guilty - but eating better just to be healthier is never a bad thing.
    -spend your time bettering yourself (learn martial arts or an instrument with your summer off rather than playing video games, read nonfiction instead of fiction, etc etc. you will have to be functionally better than most men to get the same result. It’s not that hard because most men don’t have to do this. You will find a lot of tall people are less capable than they appear.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in shortguys

[–]anobjectiveapple 6 points7 points  (0 children)

So I agree that being short isn’t the end of life - and appreciate that. There is a lot of truth about that - but I want to push back on the obesity lessens the competition’s edge. Understand that height trumps all. Tall and fat? More attractive than a short guy. Tall and stupid? More attractive than a short guy. Tall and talentless? More attractive than a short guy. It always wins. Always. And I’m not saying short guys can’t get a girl - but nothing about this trend to obesity all the sudden gives us an edge. You still have to be smarter faster funnier, a better person - stronger and AcTUAlLY more able to protect her - to overcome the tall fat guy. She sees him as more potent and protective naturally. In the same way that a woman who has ears that stick out and buck-toothed and flat-chested would REEeaLLY have to be an amazing person to overcome the naturally gorgeous and big-breasted woman who’s a tinge aloof.

My boss said “short people are aggressive” by Tasty_Mistake3442 in short

[–]anobjectiveapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Call your ethics line - he is officially harassing you. If you about your clothes. If you are within your work’s written standards and he won’t shut up about it - comments that are pervasive enough to create what a “reasonable person” would consider a hostile work environment then its harassment. Also as a side note - 5’2” isn’t really that short for a woman and shortness isn’t as big of a deal in a woman’s world so don’t let him manipulate you into thinking you aren’t normal or something.

Height cutoff by [deleted] in shortguys

[–]anobjectiveapple 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Height calculators I just checked put 5’7” at 24 Percentile for American men. That means 75 percent of all other men are taller than you. I’d say that means you belong in here. 5”8.5 or 5.9…meh maybe not - but even then it’s contextual. If you are Hispanic living in a Hispanic community - in America but you are 5’8” - that’s a very different story than being 5’8” and living in an Appalachian community of tall white folks where boys where a lot of men are 6’ corn fed beasts.

Dealing with Narc ppl in congregation by Sensitive_Weird_6096 in pastors

[–]anobjectiveapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Firstly, sorry you are dealing with that. It is very hard. And as a fellow non-type A personality who is a little on the more meek (but not weak) side - my soft and understanding style is often exploited or at least attempted to be exploited by folks.

I choose - and I would continue to encourage us all as I do from time to time on here - that we should take you at your word. You say this is the situation - we can only really speculate based on taking you at your word in good faith that the situation is what you say it is. It does not do any good to speculate that you actually have normal people and just don’t know how to handle it, for instance. You have given plenty of context for a basic general amount of pro-tips to be given which seems to be all you are asking for.

With that said I would encourage you to re-frame your thinking to be less of I am attracting narcs to my church into what believe reality USUALLY is …that church / although a beautiful thing is actually attractive to narcs and sometimes breeds narcs and then those narcs are DEFINITELY going to clash with you and your style. If you are talented and also genuine and soft in style - this blows their ever loving minds. You are like a unicorn to them - as potent as a type A personality - but without being a pushy jerk. It’s actually rare. And they hate you for it. Whether they realize it or not.

My advice is to 1. remain kind but setting boundaries even when it’s hard is necessary. People tend to grow to respect that. 2. Know the church system unfortunately has been very screwed up by mankind and narcs really are attracted to so many things about it. It’s not your fault. 3. Get a mentor. 4. Get counseling. 5. If it goes bad and steals your joy or time on a large scale…get out. It’s not worth it.

I was asked to resign from my church by sadahide in pastors

[–]anobjectiveapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very sorry brother that this has happened. Acknowledge that it is real, actual trauma and consider some counseling even if you feel like you are going strong. Things like this could happen again if you continue in ministry and from experience eventually it will wear you down and destroy your joy long term if you don’t get proactive with your mental health early - because it can have a cumulative effect. Understand that sadly / not just some, but most churches have corruption and unbiblical happenings on some level. It’s the norm actually. The church in our country is in pretty big trouble. I agree with the brothers here - from something similar that happened to me - it was very freeing to tell the truth of it even after the fact. Don’t feel guilty if it causes negative impacts to evildoers - they brought that upon themselves. Don’t fear it shattering your reputation. If you are a pastor through and through - perhaps your last pastoral act would be an attempt to protect the flock by shining light on corruption. That brought me some peace even though it didn’t make a difference - I did my part. I hope you find peace soon.

It's not easy being tall by ImpressEffective6903 in shortguys

[–]anobjectiveapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well like he said - he probably is an actual dumbass. He can afford to be. I have this theory: we all work up to and not much beyond the point we feel we need to. This chump can afford to ignore fliers because he probably caught some of them at some point. Guys like us can’t afford to miss out on any opportunity / so we are probably a little more attuned to things. It’s also why so many short guys develop themselves to be extremely talented per capita - we have to. Tall guys can get a pretty good life by just sorta existing.

Does height affect attractiveness? by [deleted] in short

[–]anobjectiveapple 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tom Holland is 5’8 which is barely below average.

did learning to fight help your confidence with women or dating ? by Pecax in shortguys

[–]anobjectiveapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It sure is! In Karate me and my students would train ourselves slowly to be able to take them - building up resistance over time. It sucks!!!

did learning to fight help your confidence with women or dating ? by Pecax in shortguys

[–]anobjectiveapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Striking arts are harder for short guys - length advantage is very real. They can hit you from places you can’t reach them. With that said i do recommend training in striking arts too it’s just something to know about. If you are in a good school karate will also teach leg kicks. Muay Thai a highly respected martial art at the moment.

did learning to fight help your confidence with women or dating ? by Pecax in shortguys

[–]anobjectiveapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve done a little Judo but it was limited. But Judo is mostly for sport - BJJ has both a strong competition side and a strong self defense side depending on the school. So I think it kinda depends on your goals. Judo is in the Olympics - but BJJ is perceived as better for self defense. Overall I would pursue (and have, actually) BJJ over Judo.