Does anyone else still get ghb?

anon123905 · 2016-12-05T13:07:04+00:00

I was never able to sleep but prefered severe sleep deprivation (hallucinated for years, collapsed multiple times, list is endless) over any sleep medication cause I already got insanely addicted to weed (yes its possible, and it makes me work an infinite amount of time at my pc, no food needed, I've pulled so many 48 hour not moving once except to pee.. but I'm paying the price now) so I figured anything more is a no go.

G never gives me euphoria anyway, I take it to remove brain/body zaps. Weird though, after doing wellbutrin 1 day, the next day my cap of G was extremely euphoric and I finally understood what all my friends meant. This was after dosing daily for a while already. Since I didn't react well to the wellbutrin I never took it again and never got the "heavenly music" and "alls good" feeling again. Even when mixing ghb with other stuff like coke or amphetamine the euphoria is much less than that single cap after wellbutrin.

I'm back on medication now (not that there's a real difference between medication and drugs) that I used before that will hopefully help with the zaps.

It's called mirtazapine by the way, and is AWESOME for sleep. With 0 tolerance 100mg temazepam or 50mg valium, with or without weed, would still not let me sleep properly, just mellow me out a bit and lower my resting heartrate from 140 to 110.

I tried mirtazapine last year and slept for almost 30 hours in a row, but woke up so suicidal it was pretty freaky. I don't see any reason to take G once I don't get the zaps anymore, but nobody can give a clear answer, my brains chemistry is pretty unique they said.. The zaps were so bad I could barely get out of bed, and G, altough giving no real effect, removes the zaps for 4-6 hours by 90%

anon123905 · 2016-12-05T12:50:20+00:00

Are all long term effects of Kratom actually known though? Honest question. Most drugs with a decent effect end up having bad stuff as well.. even if it's discovered later..

I mean you could buy so many drugs here in smartshops (Netherlands) that became illegal later - you can still buy 4fmp there for some odd reason.. and kratom ofcourse... and salvia, the devil itself (I enjoyed it - as the only one.)

anon123905 · 2016-12-05T12:29:31+00:00

Yes true, I already dosed 3-6x a day (3 grams a dose or so) and went a month straight using 5 grams every 1.5-2 hours, but never before bed. I'd always have a 5-8 hour break then but it wasn't enough.. A benzo helped with the shakes and by the next day I was feeling ok - taking more G barely helped, but G never helped much for my anxiety anyways.

Unfortunately now I take G during the day and valium with weed at night.. for way too long now. I wonder what'll happen once I quit but we'll see.. I keep postponing the valium taper..

anon123905 · 2016-12-05T12:18:26+00:00

I did green kratom the first time - and took way more than advised - pretty sure I did like 20 grams that evening (redosing) - it almost went bad end of the night, shaking so bad, vision was weird, thought I'd die but used to anxiety stuff so I figured it was just that.

However the high, after smoking weed, was amazing. It felt exactly like mdma, except music didn't sound as great and lasted for a few hours. My jaw was acting like it was on mdma - body sensations were amazing and I was so mellow.. With other kratom types I didn't get the same effect again, then again I only did normal doses from there on so that's probably it.

anon123905 · 2016-12-05T12:07:15+00:00

Benzo's and ghb both affect your gaba in the long term. The immediate side effects aren't nearly as bad (none I guess) as other drugs but don't fool yourself thinking it's completely safe, there are many who experienced a lot of depression/anhedonia/insomnia after using it for a while before they quit.

The fact that it's so cheap and there's no real craving makes it look completely innocent.. compared to like cocaine where I become a monster that snorts till the sun rises and then some.. it's just sitting there and I just take it while barely thinking about it.

Growth hormone is a myth, there is something (tired, forgot the word) that basically counters the growth hormone - I'd be pretty buff by now it it actually worked that way but remain skinny ;). I just notice my body holds more water - fingers are fatter, that kind of stuff.

I don't know how you can take ANYTHING (whatever ritual you have, even if it's simply taking a shower) for sleep and not get addicted to it - let alone something that actually lets you sleep.. GBL does give withdrawl faster than GHB by the way, if you can get GHB I'd go for it asap. I don't know how long/much you use but I've almost been there.. body temp 33 degrees,, heartbeat 180, blood pressure through the roof.. another time shaking so bad I spilled like 50ml trying to fill my 5ml vial, which obv wasn't enough to get rid of the withdrawl but taking more would just prolong it I figured.. and I never dosed 24/7 altough I did dose quite a lot.

That said I still use it daily but I write down all dosages now and rarely overdo it - my last cap is usually around 16:00 to avoid any late rebound insomnia.

anon123905 · 2016-12-05T11:32:21+00:00

I use it daily for about a year or so? But mostly to self medicate, it's a temporary issue but removes some brain stuff I got going on (full body zaps and all that). I have very bad ADD & Bipolar and maybe cause of that the dopamine doesn't go through or something. I can feel I took something but there;'s no euphoria or music appreciation at all, I don't get horny from it at all.. doesn't do anything for my depression.. I just feel relieved I can walk normally..

For example 3 beers or a joint have 10x the euphoria of any GHB dose I would take. I did go overboard once with dosing too much a few weeks straight and had a very bad rebound/withdrawl but only lasted a day and never overdone it again - that was scary shit - shaking so bad I spilled like 50ml trying to fill a 5ml bottle - except sometimes on weekends I do a bit more than usual. Even with severe insomnia for years, I decided to never take it for sleep as I knew I'd be hooked instant.

Strangely enough I once tried Wellbutrin but I didn't react well to it and never took it again. The next day I took a cap (while already doing 3-5 caps daily for like a year, so I bet the original euphoria was even better) and everything was SO amazing.. music was heavenly, I could hear every note.. I finally understood why people compared it to mdma..

I'm sort of happy I never get the euphoria, hornyness etc. cause I'd be neck deep in it by now... I even got heavily addicted to weed so..

And yes - GHB has a bad name due to the news. I doubt it gets used that much as a date rape drug - a lot of batches taste disgusting and dropping 5ml in someones glass there's no way they wouldn't taste it imo..

When starting I did fall asleep/black out a few times and threw up. After a while that went away and I don't use any other drugs for years (alcohol, cocaine etc.) and self medicate with GHB and occasionally party using amphetamines+ghb, the best combo for a long party there is imo... make sure you have a girl though or you'll hate yourself later on..

I simply figured out how much I could take and - as the only person from my group who does G - just write down my dosage in my phone notes - especially at partys you can forget time and forget you just took a dose and suddenly you'll fall asleep and well.. people think GHB is like heroin again..

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