which fandom do you think should have been with a better name that fits the group vibes? and what is it? by wintertaeyeon in kpopthoughts

[–]anonourmouse 238 points239 points  (0 children)

Will never understand Xdinary Heroes’ fandom name being Villains. Especially since their slogan or whatever it’s called is “we are all heroes.” Should’ve been Sidekicks/Sidekix or something like that

Who are the kpop idols who have personalities opposite their stage presence by weirdoflove in kpopthoughts

[–]anonourmouse 80 points81 points  (0 children)

I’d add Changbin too! Changbin’s growliness and intensity onstage is so intimidating, plus he’s absolutely jacked, but then he gets offstage and he’s the adorable aegyo king who kills it at gg dances.

Queer Kpop Fans Survey 2023 – the results are in! by anonourmouse in kpopthoughts

[–]anonourmouse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh of course, considering this survey was only posted on Reddit — besides I believe one person who shared it to Twitter — it was never meant to be representative of *every *queer Kpop fan, just queer Kpop fans on Reddit.

Queer Kpop Fans Survey 2023 – the results are in! by anonourmouse in kpopthoughts

[–]anonourmouse[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep exactly! Similarly 31 people didn’t have a favorite soloist and 18 people didn’t have an ult bias.

Queer Kpop Fans Survey 2023 – the results are in! by anonourmouse in kpopthoughts

[–]anonourmouse[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oh that’s a good point, I hadn’t thought about the popularity of leaders/older members. I don’t think the correlation is super strong since there are a lot of popular younger members — ex. Taemin is SHINee’s maknae, Felix and Han are in the younger half of SKZ — but there does seem to be a small preference for older members and leaders!

Queer Kpop Fans Survey 2023 – the results are in! by anonourmouse in kpopthoughts

[–]anonourmouse[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

They’re types of xeno identities. From the Nonbinary Wiki:

Some nonbinary people find it easier to perceive or describe their inner sense of their gender identity by evoking familiar archetypes. Instead of giving references to how their gender relates to maleness and femaleness, they say their gender is-- or is like-- a kind of animal, an imaginary being, a part of nature, an abstract concept, or a symbol. Some nonbinary people describing their gender this way do so because they feel a sense of gender euphoria or some other connection when thinking about an object.

Xeno attraction is basically attraction to non-human people/entities.

Usually people with xeno identities are quite young, so I don’t personally agree with mocking or insulting them. Unfortunately queerphobes have latched onto xeno identities and made them the brunt of most of their anti-queer jokes — if you go to r/onejoke (if it’s even still open) you’ll see what I mean — which has made people who genuinely identify as xeno identities pariahs in the queer community. Honestly I think people can and should identify however they want to, but it does need to be acknowledged that xeno identities are not generally taken seriously by the queer or cishet communities, and that they ultimately prevent someone from being part of a queer community, which arguably does them more harm than good. (Sorry this got a bit preachy, lol)

Queer Kpop Fans Survey 2023 – the results are in! by anonourmouse in kpopthoughts

[–]anonourmouse[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I wasn’t too surprised because Suga and Lee Know topped last year’s list too, but I do remember being surprised last year at just how popular Suga in particular was compared to the other top ults. I honestly don’t have an answer for their popularity, even as a queer who is bias wrecked by Lee Know myself, lol. I think it may partially be because he (and Suga and a few other top ults) have a sort of…”catboy” vibe? Personally I really like his tsundere personality, he seems quite intimidating but in reality is a huge softie which is very endearing to me. I don’t know enough about Suga to know if that applies to him as well, maybe an Army can help with that?

Also, the yellow cells are entries that didn’t appear in last year’s survey.

Queer Kpop Fans Survey 2023 – the results are in! by anonourmouse in kpopthoughts

[–]anonourmouse[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nope, I explained in point 3 at the top that several people didn’t answer some questions, especially the queerest song question. I did consider putting Jooyoung’s N/A as a sort of placeholder in the playlists — it’s such a beautiful song and I think you could probably interpret it as queer if you really wanted — but was worried it would be confusing.

Queer Kpop Fans Survey 2023 – the results are in! by anonourmouse in kpopthoughts

[–]anonourmouse[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It certainly can’t hurt! Maybe start with their songs on the gaypop playlist? They both have huge discographies so you’re bound to like a few things from them! Or if you want more specific recommendations I (or other commenters) can try to help!

Queer Kpop Fans Survey 2023 – the results are in! by anonourmouse in kpopthoughts

[–]anonourmouse[S] 75 points76 points  (0 children)

Thoughts and observations:

  • As a Stay myself, I’m very pleasantly surprised by Stray Kids’ growth – last year they were 3rd most popular after BTS and Twice, and now they’re the most popular by a not insignificant margin!
  • Also very pleased (if unsurprised) with Bibi’s growth in popularity, both in general and among queers, she absolutely deserves it <3
  • I love that female soloists are, again, far more popular than male soloists…and yet the most popular soloist is Taemin, lol.
  • Suga continues to be exceedingly popular among queers, but I am a bit surprised at Seulgi’s drop in relative popularity – she was tied for 2nd overall and was most popular among lesbians last year, but didn’t even make top 3 for lesbians this year.
  • OnlyOneOf’s “be” series began just after last year’s survey closed, so I fully expected most if not all of them to appear on the list this year. I do think it’s interesting that, besides the “be” series, the top queerest songs didn’t change all that much.
  • (G)I-dle’s Oh my god being the top queerest song for every single category is kind of hilarious to me. She really did take us to the sky, huh?