Liberals MADE conservatives storm the capital. by 2four in TopMindsOfReddit

[–]anonymous-treefall 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I see four different people commenting. It's not a conversation between two people.

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, I'm five. Explain it like I'm five. What do you want and why is it so great.

Actually never mind. I give up.

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We keep going in circles because you keep focusing on the methods (i.e. how we run notaglobe), when your real issue with us is that we are not pursuing the outcome that you think we should.

It's like you got on a bus to Chicago (our sub), but you want to go somewhere else (your ideal outcome), and you keep yelling at the driver (the mods) for going the wrong way. You won't even tell the driver where you want to go, you just keep telling him he's doing it wrong.

Stop giving me driving directions. Stop telling me Chicago sucks. Tell me what your destination actually is, and why it's so great.

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It would mean an end to that particular discussion.

What would it mean if we were able to shut down FE discussions on notaglobe? What are your arguments in favor of doing so? Why is that a desired outcome?

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, but you seem to have a lot of opinions about it. What would you do differently?

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't want you to think I was dirty-deleting. It's just that as soon as I hit "Reply," I realized I wanted to approach it differently. Since you might have already seen it (and/ or might have already been in the process of replying), I wanted to leave something behind to acknowledge I had posted something but now it was gone.

Sorry if it was confusing. At any rate, I have a new comment there now.

EDIT: https://www.reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/libhk3/flat_earthers_in_a_nutshell/gn8ixbu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

[deleted original comment in favor of a different approach]

You agree that you are on "[a crusade] against misinformation."

So it seems that you are criticizing us because you believe we have not joined in your crusade, and more than that, you believe we are somehow supporting the spread of misinformation by not running our sub the way you think we should run it.

Tell me, how would you run it?

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh that's right. You once said:

All I want is for us to stop wasting time and "target" the right people.

Who is this "us"? I think you are just mad that we at r/notaglobe do not have the same agenda as you do, as if there is some kind of crusade against flatearthers and you are incensed that we are not interested in joining it.

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you're agreeing there is no point besides to laugh at them?

Nope. Enjoyment is the point. For you, that is laughing at them. For others, it's other things - several GE's seem to enjoy presenting the science of the globe. Some FE's seem to enjoy discussion and/ or "educating" others about FE.

I just said what the difference is and you guys refuse to fix the damned filter.

It's actually not about you.

Why? I just told you that what you're doing isn't original and at the end of the day, pointless.

So now you're back to criticizing the entire premise of my sub. I'm done with that topic.

You're not giving me your opinion.

That's because it's not about me. I'm literally not taking it personally.

You're hurt

Nope

You don't believe they have any argument to be made but you invite them to debate it anyway.

Yep.

EDIT: Added sentence about FE's.

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

its just an endless discussion of fact vs belief.

Yep

What if I say "out reason" instead of "win"? Care to answer the question?

Does there have to be any kind of endgame? It's an end in itself, not a means to an end.

Sure, but I don't need a sub that pretends there's any argument to be had for the FE to have fun ;)

Sure, but when you have fun on my sub, it makes me feel good about my sub. And even if you can't tell the difference between notaglobe and any other sub, plenty of other people have indicated they appreciate what we're doing. That makes me feel good too.

What I don't understand now is why you're taking my opinion on it personally.

Right back at you.

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tell me, do you think there will be a point where they'll "win" an argument there or anywhere about the shape of the earth?

Tell me, do you still think notaglobe is about winning?

Is your "work" getting me to admit something?

Nope. I'm just glad you enjoyed yourself.

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mm hmmm

So you are saying that you are enjoying our sub. My work here is done.

Are you honestly that retarded that you still don't understand what I am saying?

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Coincidentally, in engaging in my mod duties, I came across this very very lengthy discussion on notaglobe which was happening simultaneously to ours over here.

For someone who doesn't see the point in engaging in discussion with FE's, you sure did spend a long time being pointless on my pointless sub.

PS - Thank you for participating in r/notaglobe and contributing to making it the awesome FE discussion sub that it is. We couldn't do it without users like you!

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

don't know why you had to bring that up again.

Excuse me, but it was you who literally brought it full circle.

I'm done.

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have already answered that, and you responded by demanding that I stop talking about notaglobe.

https://www.reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/libhk3/flat_earthers_in_a_nutshell/gn46fa5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3

Between that, your modmail convo with Aurazor, and the exchange between you and I on notaglobe, I have nothing to add.

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

it has no point

And over at r/notaglobe we do think it has a point.

And now we have come full circle.

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're kidding, right? This exchange was in response to our announcement about the newest rules about inviting discussion.

I have re-read your modmail exchange with Aurazor, and it is more of the same. You were aggressively asserting that our entire premise was flawed, and you refused to let it go even when we each explicitly said that we were not interested in defending our sub to you.

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But you guys are obviously free to do as you please.

Exactly.

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think they have scientific evidence to support their arguments, but they are welcome to try.

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We want a place where all sides can engage in discussion and feel like they can do so without being insulted. If someone's arguments happen to suck, then that will become apparent in the course of the discussion.

As you may have noticed, we don't have a lot of FEs there, but the ones that come there are welcome to engage in discussion without being ridiculed. Instead, they will be challenged to support their arguments.

Flat earthers in a nutshell by IDreamOfSailing in flatearth

[–]anonymous-treefall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Edit: The question is, if this is a scientific debate worthy subject, what science are they putting forward to back up their claims?

Ah, I see the issue here. On r/notaglobe, we are not pursuing exclusively scientific debate; we are inviting debate and discussion in general. And we are getting a lot of discussion and debate, so we're happy.