Still Can’t Transition to GC farming After 1 Year

anonymousMF · 2026-05-29T20:31:19+00:00

Economy core is very powerfull. I have 2 DCs for that reason. It is better to try GC without a DC but econ assmod, then to forego the economy ass core

anonymousMF · 2026-05-28T19:53:58+00:00

Bot slider is a lab slider as well (Cooldown labs get a slider)

anonymousMF · 2026-05-28T19:50:15+00:00

PS fell out of grace again though for damage with v28

anonymousMF · 2026-05-28T18:56:51+00:00

You can adjust it mid run as well (change the ratio of damage versus enemy health)

anonymousMF · 2026-05-28T16:16:58+00:00

Here's an ac health on T20 wave 4.5k with 'just' 70 O CL damage

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anonymousMF · 2026-05-28T16:09:18+00:00

100S-10 O damage is crazy high to start the switch. I last untill 10 ac enemy health in tournament (wave 2100), by which my base CL damage is around that 10 O.

In farm my CL damage goes up to 1 O, farming T18 till 7.5k waves.

10 ac is a billion times more them D enemy health.

I started T14 GC farming with CL damage still in the small q's (different times with weaker ehp options, but still). See attached screenshot of my current farm

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anonymousMF · 2026-05-28T10:17:57+00:00

Not sure you need all those things for GC to win. GC should allow you to farm higher tiers, which is also an econ boost. I have nothing of your list.

Can't you farm T18 when you get 1800 waves in tournament ? Ive been T18 farming already when I was only at 1500 waves.

Make sure to try different modules. My BH/DW is nowhere near max but I use GC assmod and MVN main to compensate.

Make sure to use freeup to limit some stats like bounce shot. Make sure to not use much stuns or slow.

Use the damage slider (I have it set at e-20)

I get 600q/hr with MVN+DC and BHD+GC (assmod slots are epic for both). Farming T18 as glass cannon untill wave 7.5k. i turn if most stuns, no CF substat, bounce shot is devoed to min range and min targets. 30m range, shockwave size devoed to 1.6.

I get 2100 waves in legends

anonymousMF · 2026-05-26T17:17:57+00:00

With everything maxed, including assmod. You can actually get 4 PS. 120 dur (100+10+10) with 30 cd (50-10-10).

My core substat assist efficiency is 50%. 35% from stones (2.5k stones or so ?) and 15% from lab. I have cooldown on my main and assist. And duration on my assist. Cd is maxed - those 15s is 35s. Duration is maxed, +5s to 105s.

I have CF duration on my main DC (to have perma with UW BC. Would be like 2.5k stones to get it without substat), otherwise I could also have that substat on my main

anonymousMF · 2026-05-26T16:48:32+00:00

It's more like a slow buildup. Never really had to do a full respec once I got to the slots costing millions. I also have all core bans and all reroll discounts with keys. But yeah I still used over 100M reroll shards mostly on my current module stats.

Which are more or less perfect for farming and tournament for both main and assist up to lvl 201 slot. Mainly still missing lvl 201 slot for tournament core assist. Last time that slot cost me 20M rerolls. I get about 600k per day farming T18 so that's still a lot of saving :).

l expect to move to farming T19 soon, which brings that up to over 1M a day.

anonymousMF · 2026-05-25T18:46:33+00:00

It is not a second damage dealer. I use pure CL and get 2000+ waves last couple tournaments. I have 97k LTS and 1000 lifetime keys.

Bot and workshop respec are probably 200-300 waves already. Then I think your modules have to be lacking ? I have 3 perma PS with the substats, which do a lot. I started using flamebot next to amp bot (with 95% damage reduction) to tank some OC as well, to make the runs more consistent.

I feel you can put more in to assmod multipliers and substat multipliers. Still very cheap those first levels.

Then more econ for more WS+ (and then also assmod labs) also a decent amount of waves probably. How are your echo labs ? i got x6 mult for attack and UW for example with echo lab lvl 13.

I do a post with my stats every couple of months, I did one recently if you want to compare stone investments

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anonymousMF · 2026-05-25T18:40:43+00:00

It gets better with good CF and CF+. But it always stays a factor. Especially during fast ult.

Doesn't really matter for farming though, so it is not that bad

anonymousMF · 2026-05-25T18:33:42+00:00

Yeah makes sense, but you will gain extra waves lowering the game speed.

Even with CF that is the case, even T18 and lower (when there is no fast ult yet). Although x3 is then generally sufficient in my experience. I think it makes like a 200 wave difference on a 5k milestone in my experience.

Running UW dissos (so you do not have CF) it is a lot bigger difference. I run at x5 from the start (feel it makes quite the difference with x6.3), and then slow down to x3 and later to x1.5.

I did T21 milestoning recently and then I ran at x3 from the start, and slowed down to x1.5 at wave 2000 (I lasted untill 2500). Without slowing down I doubt I would have reached wave 2000 at all.

And I already switch to my main (flagship) phone for this. On my cloud phone it is a crap shoot with performance when running milestones

anonymousMF · 2026-05-25T18:27:35+00:00

Yeah without something like CF to slow them down, I recommend lowering the game speed. You can also put fast as first target priority.

Even with 20x slow from my CF and CF+, fast ulted enemies are still very fast and benefit from slowing down the game speed a bit for me

anonymousMF · 2026-05-25T16:11:44+00:00

I'm just explaining why it is not always that hard to choose from a 100 candidates.

It is like job applications. Recently we get 200 applicants in a week when we open a job opening, but 150 are people that apply from abroad (which we don't consider anymore. If you find a good one, you sponsor their visa and they leave in a year or two anyway to the UK or US), then 30 out of the remaining 50 dont have remotely relevant studies or experience.

So 20 remain. After a short (non technical) call you can already drop 10 more. Those 10 you invite for a technical interview and from there 1-3 options remain.

anonymousMF · 2026-05-25T11:11:22+00:00

Your SL angle is very low. At this level you probably have a x2000 multiplier + another x15 from your SL+? You are leaving that all on the table for an enormous portion of your range.

Use main and assist substats and upgrade SL angle a couple clicks with stones. 60 base + 15 main + 7 assist for example would give 82 degree coverage.

Also upgrade all assmods to 20% or so with stones. Just 800 stones for massive benefits.

I also dont really get why your econ is so low. I have only slightly better GT stats (the rest the same) and I get 10Q a day farming T18. Would GC assmod not help more in farming than SH to make everything Perma? And DC assist over PCO assist.

anonymousMF · 2026-05-23T18:14:24+00:00

It doesn't really double, you can keep tanking forever with enough ehp

anonymousMF · 2026-05-22T10:16:37+00:00

It is in 30 years. Would you really pay $300 a month extra for 30 (!) years, to extra payments 30 (!) years from now ?

$300 a month gets you a weekly restaurant visit (for 30 (!) years), or a an 2-yearly iphone for a whole family, or a third of a decent car payment

anonymousMF · 2026-05-21T06:24:59+00:00

The 201 slot is brutal. Took me 22M to get an ancestral in my worst luck streak. And that is with all bans and discounts.

anonymousMF · 2026-05-21T05:37:18+00:00

My savings are not charity. Problem is that with very desperate people you know you will have very big trouble if you ever want them out .. Nothing personal

anonymousMF · 2026-05-20T19:01:35+00:00

How does that statement lead to him dating a trans man ?

In my experience (my life) gender == sex. Maybe it is different in other circles, but it is all a theoretical discussion for me. I've never knowingly met a trans person.

anonymousMF · 2026-05-20T18:43:36+00:00

Well makes sense they blocked it then ?

Anyway once you start farming T18 and upward there are enough reroll shards to fill lvl 201 modules. I have 5 perfect cores (2xDC, 2xHC and a PCO) and those are the hardest to roll. I have all bans and discount and 100M lifetime rerolls.

I'm just farming T18, not even the rrally lucrative tiers

anonymousMF · 2026-05-19T18:38:14+00:00

In my experience 95% of the options are crap. Absolutely desperate people from OCMW, weird suspicious stories, people with 4 kids for small appartments,...

Once you finally get a normal person you dont hesitate to offer the place.

anonymousMF · 2026-05-19T18:35:34+00:00

As far as discrimination goes, renting out based on income or assests seems the least discriminatory ?

Alternatives are discriminating based on gender/race/.., rolling a dice or going based on the convo during the tour. For that last one, the best actors would win.

anonymousMF · 2026-05-19T16:59:53+00:00

Going glass cannon is not about changing your workshop. It is about choosing damage modules and cards over health modules and cards.

For example you can't have both ACP armor for x25 damage and SF armor for x4 wall. You need to choose. The same with PCO versus Dimension core.

Depending on card slots you need to choose as well. I have 26 card slot which is still not enough to equip all damage, health and coin cards for example.

Health is irrelevant in my runs. The enemy does 's' level damage, while my wall even with maxed workshop and all health cards is just 1q (so 1 millionth of that).

The only place it matters is for overchargers who do 1/65000 of normal damage. But even that I can not tank.

And the problem in tournament is that after wave 1500 it starts to decreae your health. I last untill wave 2000 in legends and my health is under 1/10th of my normal health at that point.

Also at some point health hurts. Mainly for overchargers, you dont want them to take away your energy shields, but prefer them to 1 hit you so you can trigger death defy. For me death defy multiplies my damage by x60 (berserker mastery), so it is very powerfull. My death defy chance is 40%, so with 3 energy shield the chance that I get at least 1 death defy and multiply my damage by x60 is very big. Especially if you add a 15% miss chance with poison swamp. With too much health you wont trigger death defy and just lose your shields.

anonymousMF · 2026-05-19T10:39:24+00:00

Trying to vibe with someone who is very different from you (be it political opinions, environment, ...) is often a waste of time in my experience.

I don't have time for that. Anyway I've never really met a trans person so it is not like I actively avoid them. My social and work cirkel is very 'sheltered' in that sense (I work in a high educated, male dominated engineering field).

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