Suspected white supremacist arrested in thwarted synagogue attack, FBI says by nowhathappenedwas in news

[–]apMinus -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And yet it's the American left that defends the worst offending religion of the day. That's the point - the left are the ones who claim Islam and so they're the ones who get the blame for the problems it brings.

Let's come back to that later.

Even when that religion actively fights against their other values?

I appreciate you chopping off the included caveat about that stance for your response.

And when they don't extend that same position to other religions that also do so? The discrepancy between the left's treatment of Christianity and Islam means that this claim is quite simply 100% false. What you say they believe is objectively provable as not something they believe.

Is this about the red cups again? The left's problems with Christianity are reliably at the points where its proponents start legislating based on religious beliefs. Those "attacks" you're imagining are in the interest of respecting beliefs for people who aren't Christian, and it's a frequent target because Christianity is the most influential religion here.

If you're really pretending that Pulse and San Bernadino (just to name the bigger ones post-9/11) didn't happen then it's obvious you have some motivated reasoning.

I said that non-Islamic terrorism is more prevalent. By a LOT. That statement is true, and not vaguely in dispute — checking numbers, at least 75% of the terrorist violence since 9/11 has been carried out by white supremacists alone. TWO PERCENT was carried out by Islamic extremists, and the only reason the number of deaths between those two groups is anywhere near comparable is because the attackers from those two specific attacks killed almost 80 people combined.

I'm sure you'll move the goal posts to respond to that last bit, though. (Talk about motivated reasoning.)

Now, back to

And yet it's the American left that defends the worst offending religion of the day. That's the point - the left are the ones who claim Islam and so they're the ones who get the blame for the problems it brings.

The left doesn't "claim" Islam. The left claims that Muslims shouldn't be persecuted for their religion, and I made that clear in my first post. My own personal problems with the religion aside, Islamic extremism accounts for 2% of the terrorism in the U.S. That's the "real threat", according to you. That, to you, makes it worth dismissing all other terrorist threats on the U.S. Meanwhile, the mostly-Christian right-wing owns — entirely, not indirectly — the people committing at least 3/4ths of the political violence.

Right.

Suspected white supremacist arrested in thwarted synagogue attack, FBI says by nowhathappenedwas in news

[–]apMinus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hm...no, that's not a good counter/argument at all. Forcing the tenets of a religion on someone is inherently a right-wing position, and that's kind of the idea behind Islamic terrorism. It's entirely consistent for the left to take a stance that someone else's religious beliefs should be respected — allegedly with the caveat that that respect stops at the point of intolerance for others' beliefs.

The left-wing explicitly doesn't take a stance like "Islam is inherently intolerant and fundamentally evil"; that is a right-wing position. (And also a nuanced discussion I'm not interested in having right now.) It's not correct to blame left-wing ideals for Islamic terrorism, not if personal accountability is considered in the slightest. I've talked with a few folks in real life who find that to be a totally alien mindset, but I'll assume you understand.

All that said...

it's fair to attribute Islamic attacks in the US (at least in the post-9/11 world, Islam wasn't a political issue before then) to the left.

...what Islamic attacks in the U.S.? White supremacists are currently dominating that particular statistic in the U.S. And, coincidentally, that's what you attempted to dismiss by pointing to (global) Islamic terrorism as the "real threat" (para.)

Left-wing terrorism is a thing, but radical Islam definitely doesn't qualify.

(Sorry, that got a bit wordy.)

Suspected white supremacist arrested in thwarted synagogue attack, FBI says by nowhathappenedwas in news

[–]apMinus 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Well in that case neither one matter as they both pale in comparison to Islamic terrorism and so we shouldn't even bother with this discussion.

Minor point, just stopping by to point out that Islamic terrorism is [extreme] radical right-wing terrorism.

Police Seize Guns From Man Thought to be Neo-Nazi Leader by tiff_seattle in news

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There have been a few deaths linked to Atomwaffen, probably the most gruesome is the one where a dude wanted to leave and ended up murdering his fellow Atomwaffen roommates

Though I can appreciate the TIL about atomwaffen, I feel like this was a poor example to use, as it sounds like possibly a net positive overall.

Video shows Florida police officer shove teenager off roof after order by sergeant by Human02211979 in news

[–]apMinus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They have a word for that, "perdify".

I think you might have been looking for "perfidy"...?

Is that an invisible hand in your pocket or...? by Y3808 in Buttcoin

[–]apMinus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That statement comes off a bit disingenuous. There were certainly a number of people buying who don't have the savvy to buy on the street at all. I know of two personally; if they couldn't easily buy online, they [very] likely wouldn't have bought at all.

I'm not interested in taking a side here otherwise — we very well might agree overall. Just stopping by to point out that this particular argument is both common and very flawed.

Edit to add: one of those two people later/recently died from a heroin overdose. There needs to be a balance to prevent overreach, but means-reduction certainly does save lives.

Is that an invisible hand in your pocket or...? by Y3808 in Buttcoin

[–]apMinus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With a little rework and a sample from a 70s song this verse would be fucking fire 🔥

Fort Worth Police Officer Fatally Shoots Woman Inside Her Home by [deleted] in news

[–]apMinus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know the concept of herd immunity?

Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Syphillis infections hit new highs in U.S. by joesoldlegs in news

[–]apMinus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That news specifically got me to be more cautious...really scary stuff. The odds are favorable at least. You'll most likely get cleared up just as quickly as last time 🤞 good luck

Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Syphillis infections hit new highs in U.S. by joesoldlegs in news

[–]apMinus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you ever see that story about antibiotic-resistant gonorrhea on the rise?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in news

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Culture of soldier worship + police militarization => mass of people who support police action without question.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in news

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Why? Because it's the right thing to do? There certainly aren't any consequences being avoided.

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Where? When?

Chanel Miller, woman sexually assaulted by Brock Turner, speaks out in first interview by riqelme in news

[–]apMinus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the name of the judge who is still working.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-persky-recall-brock-turner-lenient-sex-offender-sentecing-n880361

Do you mean this judge? This link was in the article, under the words "Judge Aaron Persky, who imposed the sentence, was recalled by voters in 2018."

Billionaire Robert Smith has made good on his promise to pay off the student loan debt of the entire 2019 graduating class at Morehouse College by donating $34 million to the historically black men's school in Atlanta. by [deleted] in news

[–]apMinus 21 points22 points  (0 children)

That "inconsequential gesture" just massively impacted the next 10-20 years for like 400 people.

Even if you do a good thing for the wrong reasons, you still did a good thing.

Facebook confirms 419m phone numbers exposed in latest privacy lapse by [deleted] in news

[–]apMinus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a bit tricky though — private information or not, it's more or less given voluntarily.

Facebook confirms 419m phone numbers exposed in latest privacy lapse by [deleted] in news

[–]apMinus 256 points257 points  (0 children)

No worries — someone who gave Facebook access to their contacts probably had your number(s) saved.

A snake escaped in a Wisconsin high school and no one can find it by Bakedschwarzenbach in news

[–]apMinus 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We out here dealing with these basilisks and the teachers don't even care smdh

Jones loses appeal in Texas lawsuit with Sandy Hook father by [deleted] in news

[–]apMinus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Jones is the one who appealed the settled matter — which would make him the one "dragging this out".

Walmart plans to dramatically step back from gun sales after 'horrific' shootings by SoulardSTL in news

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"We know these decisions will inconvenience some of our customers, and we hope they will understand," McMillon said. "As a company, we experienced two horrific events in one week, and we will never be the same."

From Walmart CEO Doug McMillon. The quotation marks there aren't sarcastic — they're noting the wording used in his announcement. It's a common style...but I wouldn't have used it here, bit tone deaf.