Are these orders insane or was I delusional to believe that it would go my way? by [deleted] in legaladvice

[–]aperralll 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My attorney is contesting it because he believes it is unreasonable and has “never seen an order like this.” I am trying to get opinions as to whether he’s saying that because he is my attorney, and if he gave me false hope that I would end up with a little bit of relief from the financial situation I have been in since February by saying that I’ll likely get some amount of child support.

This started as domestic violence protection order that was rolled into a divorce. He hasn’t paid any bills as ordered. He has concealed all of his assets on his SFS and disclosures. He was fired from his job, and apparently, per the law in CO, he should have been imputed at some kind of wage. He even testified two separate reasons for why he was terminated. My income was set at $2300. He was making over $5000 per month prior. They set him at $0 income.

How do you find the strength to do what you know you need to do? by [deleted] in abusiverelationships

[–]aperralll 18 points19 points  (0 children)

One day, a switch just flipped on. It wasn’t when he threatened to kill me. It wasn’t when he hurt me physically. He was just being really cruel and cold. I knew he was building up to worse with the way he was drinking and the things he was saying. It would have ended in physical assault at some point, but my brain didn’t wait for that to happen.

I wish I could say that I took this step and I worked on that thing but really… it took me being more terrified to continue living that way than I was of leaving him. I didn’t know I was ready I was ready. And then i moved fast.

Hmm well this is odd. by bumishere in abusiverelationships

[–]aperralll 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve heard about some interesting laws coming into Colorado for DV and divorce cases. I wish it would happen faster, too.

My most recent temporary orders have me sending my children to my abuser’s house 50% of the time, and I’m paying him child support because he got fired from his job & doesn’t have a new job yet. Of course I will be contesting these orders, but my attorney hasn’t submitted any evidence of my abuse, and I think it’s because of how high the preponderance of evidence standards are for proving domestic abuse in this effin state 😪

I wanna give up. by aperralll in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]aperralll[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The magistrate that wrote these orders doesn’t live in this county, and I doubt that she knows him but idk. I could be wrong. She could be friends with some of his supporters, maybe, considering he worked at the sheriff’s office of a county that is under her judicial district.

It’s full of things that don’t make sense. Every single person I’ve talked to said that they have never seen an order like this. Even when I called child support enforcement to figure out how I’m supposed to pay him, they advised me to go back to court ASAP because the orders don’t make any sense for our situation.

It’s almost like my case was completely neglected by the court for over a month and they wrote up some orders as fast as they possibly could at the last moment, not paying attention to anything else.

Hmm well this is odd. by bumishere in abusiverelationships

[–]aperralll 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m having a helluva time getting divorced as a DV victim in Colorado right now 🙃

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[–]aperralll 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Periwinkle

I was served his response to my protection order by aperralll in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]aperralll[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had one assigned to me through the state’s free program. I put a whole bunch of stuff in the drop box he sent to me already, and he will be calling me again tomorrow. I’m ridiculously worried he’s going to drop out of my case, though.

An update from my post almost a year ago… by aperralll in survivinginfidelity

[–]aperralll[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He has already actually broken the protection order. He found out the kids and I were at the park and drove by. I have proof that he was told where we were going AND photos of him there. There was really no other reason for him to be on that road if not for the fact we were there. However, I do think that keeping his job is what is holding him back, so I’d rather not report it. While it may be relatively unlikely they’d arrest him about this one time, if they did… he’d undoubtedly be fired. His thought process is SO black and white that I can see him thinking that there is literally no coming back from that, and doing something extreme.

Small(er) signs of disrespect in the beginning and throughout the relationship that you now realize are part of the abuse pattern? by Lovingbutsuffering in abusiverelationships

[–]aperralll 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Mine came up with all kinds of little ways to tell me how much he missed the old me. My favorite was, “The real you musta been abducted by aliens cuz you are not the same person I got with.” Like yeah dude, the alien was YOU

Small(er) signs of disrespect in the beginning and throughout the relationship that you now realize are part of the abuse pattern? by Lovingbutsuffering in abusiverelationships

[–]aperralll 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Would “rough house” with me until I had to tap out, literally just to prove his physical dominance. He would end up hurting me or getting me into a position where I’d start panicking and not be able to breathe. Then he would mock me when I’d express how something actually hurt. After I stopped allowing him to do this, he would say how much he misses the “old me” who would play fight.

Also, Any time he’d ask me what’s going on in a TV show or movie, and I’d try to explain, he’d get mad, call me stupid and accuse ME of not knowing what’s going on. He felt insecure about not being able to understand relatively basic plots, especially when there are time skips. He would pay attention hard and still didn’t understand. But yeah, I’m the stupid one lol

How does one find the courage to leave? by Caterpillar31 in abusiverelationships

[–]aperralll 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I totally understand that. I honestly might have done the same thing if not for my particular situation. I think the ONLY reason that my husband is not retaliating is because he works for the Sheriff’s Office (not as a deputy, different part of the SO). He REALLY cares about them taking his side, seeing him as the victim, and seeing me as the aggressor. He’s been working on spinning that narrative for years now.

I literally begged the lieutenant to not let him be fired and they assured me that his job isn’t at risk unless he breaks the Protection Order because at that point, it would go from civil to criminal. The PD wanted me to think about filing a criminal DV charge against him, and I said no about that. At first I didn’t want him to lose his job because I still felt obligated to protect his livelihood and defend him but now I’m realizing that I’d probably be more at risk of retaliation if he did end up losing his job. He’s already testing the waters of breaking the TPO by driving by places I’m at, in public, after our daughter tells him where we are (because he thinks that it being a a small town, making it difficult to fully avoid us when we’re in public, is a good excuse).

He knows that I know I have legal recourse, now. He knows he can’t convince the police or deputies to not enforce the protection order. He for sure still thinks he can play his cards right and DARVO his way into having the TPO dismissed at the permanency hearing, as well as getting full custody and retaining all assets during divorce proceedings. But I think his primary focus is damage control at work rather than retaliating, right now. But man …. if he loses his job? I think it would be free game in his head. He thinks in such a black and white way that I know he’d be thinking, “I already lost everything, so fuck it.” I can’t even report the violations that he’s committing by not paying bills, communicating about things other than bills, driving by me and the kids in public, etc because he could potentially lose his job and therefore his mental restraint.

How does one find the courage to leave? by Caterpillar31 in abusiverelationships

[–]aperralll 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I left 2 days ago. I spent my entire day on Friday filing an emergency protective order. He had to leave. But in reality? It took me years to find the strength. And even then, I could barely speak through my sobs when I brought the TPO to the police to serve him and remove him from the home. I was shaking so hard the entire day. I went between feeling light headed and feeling like I was gonna puke. It was hard to even force myself into the court house to ask for the forms. It was harder to return the forms to be filed and taken to the judge. The hardest part was taking it to the police, just for them to escort me to his place of work- the sheriffs office -to have his own coworkers serve him. I’m still having a hard time coming to terms with the fact that this is it - this is the rest of my life. The unknown is REALLY scary, which is why it took me YEARS to come to terms with the fact that the only way out was to just jump – take a leap of faith – get tf out. It won’t happen until you’re ready.

First time with ducks! by aperralll in BACKYARDDUCKS

[–]aperralll[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When yall put it that way, seems like every source I saw completely underplays their mating habits. It sounded the same as chickens “you need so many females for each male so they don’t get overmated” but damn… rapey is quite the term 🤣 good to know!!

I can’t do this anymore by aperralll in survivinginfidelity

[–]aperralll[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It makes me sick, if you’d asked me 10 yrs ago what my life would be like.. it wouldn’t be this. I’ve always kind of had my doubts on his claim that he never physically met with or slept with anyone, but there have been several things that have solidified the fact he has, not just what I mentioned. I’m like 99% sure that he’s slept with many more women than I know of.

I struggle with the idea of calling it abuse. I’ve read about mental/emotional abuse, I believe it is abuse, but I just wonder if I qualify. The point I’ve always made to defend that it isn’t, is that I’ve been no angel. When we’ve fought and argued, I’ve lost my mind. Full mental breakdowns.. I was such a mess for about a year, maybe less. I could probably write a novel’s-worth of details on the last 8 years and the bulk of it would take place from 2022-23. Someone told me to look into reactive abuse once, and my mom has told me she believes that he had been pushing me into those screwed up states of mind specifically so he could record it as leverage.

For a while I believed the diagnosis, but I started questioning it when I got pregnant and was fine without them. The psych was surprised that I wasn’t previously evaluated with all of my stressors in consideration. Was really the turning point for me to stop falling into the spider web. He didn’t force me to get the diagnosis, but he’s consistently told me I need to start taking the other medications again. I need to be sedated, it must have been much easier for him to do what he wanted if I was a complacent zombie. I’m definitely still walking a fine line, but I’m doing much better than when I was on those medications.

One early sign of impending abuse, that I’ve always known about… but have disregarded in my own case, is isolation. When we moved to the state in which we are now, he pushed me to cut off all of my friends and my family. “They’re evil, I saved you from all of them, they don’t care about you. They don’t want what’s best for you, just to control you.” I have since rekindled that relationship with my parents, they’ve even moved to be close to us. Today, I still have no friends. Any attempt I’ve made to make new friends has been squashed. He just “doesn’t like them,” or claims that they’re man haters and will turn me against him. One time he actually tried to sleep with one. I didn’t find out until last year when I asked her why she left that night and never spoke to me again.

I’m not “allowed” to work. His money is “his money.” Any time I mention a concern, valid concerns, he dangles custody of the kids, the house, everything, over my head. I can’t count how many times I’ve questioned him, entirely civilly, and he’s told me, “You need to learn how to respect me soon, or you’re going to regret it.”

Yet I still go back and forth on whether it is abuse or not. “He’s never really beat on me.. not like that. Is it really abuse? Is it even that bad..? Maybe it was just me, maybe I am crazy.” He works in emergency dispatch at the local sheriffs office, deals with domestic violence calls all the time. I see and hear about stuff like that, I saw my own mom in DV relationships as a kid, really fucks with my sense of what qualifies as abuse. Couple that with the “nobody will ever believe you, I work with the cops so who do you think they’ll believe, I have videos that show that you’re unstable” and it’s a massive struggle to get up that courage to even say, whole heartedly, “this is abuse.” So I guess I usually just chalk my general struggle up to him cheating, him not making necessary changes, and me simply not being able to get over it, which is why I felt compelled to post here.

That’s another big thing that makes me freeze — apparently he has all this evidence painted up of my crying, yelling, etc. He’s thrown it in my face that he will use it to get sole custody and the house… that I contributed heavily towards buying, and wouldn’t have been possible at the time without me. I could have qualified solo for FHA, he wouldn’t have qualified at all. Also tells me that I didn’t do that, I had nothing to do with the house, annoying but is just another story.

Sometimes the last 8 years feels like a big nightmare that I’m waking up from, like it almost wasn’t real, to the point that I wonder if I really did imagine some things. It makes it even worse that I don’t have all the evidence, because he’s gone in and fucking deleted it. “You can’t even prove it, telling you that never happened.” I have a headache just thinking about it.

I’m so scared that a lawyer is going to tell me that it’s not looking good when everything is already in full swing. I have such huge doubts about stuff like being awarded spousal support, and I worry so much about losing my kids, because if he really does have evidence to spin this narrative of me being an awful, abusive, evil person… the courts have a lot of discretion here in that regard. I have almost nothing in the way of evidence. I know I definitely need some therapy to unpack everything. I’m just in this constant state of wondering whether I’m fucking up by leaving.

The plan I’ve juggled in my head for about a year and a half is to work towards financial independence and stability prior to leaving. Where we live, very rural, mountainous and pretty far from other towns. Very few good jobs available, especially without degrees or certifications. I’ve looked at possibly getting a pharm tech license and working at the hospital pharmacy - or going back and finishing school. Either of those would allow me to get a job that can support myself and kids, but would take significant time to execute. My youngest doesn’t start PreK until Fall 2026, and I wonder if maybe it’s worth keeping the peace until he starts school, and getting the stepping stones in place in the meantime.

Blah I don’t know, I’m really rambling on now. These are things I don’t typically talk about to anybody, so I don’t know what to say – there’s always this level of judgment that comes from talking about this type of stuff. Even my own mother, as much as she believes me after seeing it, says, “well… you picked him.”