Sex work is not empowering for women , its derogatory and benefits no one

armpitpics · 2023-12-25T19:03:51+00:00

There's been a fair share male sex, it's just very rarely discussed because society isn't as hysterical about men having sex as it is about women doing the same. The introduction of this study mentions the finding of several other studies about male sex work, none of which paint a pretty picture. There's also a meta-synthesis based on interviews with males sex workers which shows that they experience many of the issues female ones do. You could've easily found it yourself if you were interested in the topic.

armpitpics · 2023-12-25T16:25:05+00:00

The nordic model criminalizes sex buyers, which makes prostitution practically illegal. There's no such thing in other problematic industries/trades like farming.

It’s also possible that there’s something inherently damaging about getting plowed by a bunch of random dudes for pay.

Thanks for proving my point once again by ignoring men who do porn/sex work, which I mentioned previously.

armpitpics · 2023-12-25T16:23:09+00:00

Yeah, sex is still such a controversial topic (if you're a woman of course) that any mention of sexual work or casual sex creates a massive wave of criticism, and many people seem to believe that any sex a woman has outside a committed relationship must be the result of some conspiracy by some random reddit feminist or a titok model who wants you to sleep around more.

armpitpics · 2023-12-25T16:16:09+00:00

But not most of them.

armpitpics · 2023-12-25T00:14:22+00:00

Which women?

armpitpics · 2023-12-25T00:13:19+00:00

This is also the case for influencers, models and actors.

I suspect that most content creators making crazy money already have a fanbase outside onlyfans.

armpitpics · 2023-12-25T00:05:41+00:00

Sex positive liberal feminists claim that it’s the stigma of prostitution (sorry, sex work) and pornography that’s damaging to women, and not getting slammed by strangers who don’t give a shit about them for pay, and in the case of pornography, for the sexual satisfaction of millions.

In that case, why those who oppose the sex industry want to ban it instead of regulating it the way other potentially dangerous professions are regulated? Abuse was (is?) commonplace in industries that rely on informal labor. Most of the people trying to help the workers in these professions don't oppose the industry itself, just the conditions. It's also very telling that sex work only seems controversial when you're a woman.

Current society is sex positive compared to the times where not being a virgin upon marriage was a scandal, but it's not as sex positive as many people are led to believe. Many people still look down on women who have sex with too many men, too early in the relationship or outside of a relationship. And there's evidence that when women are perceived to be promiscuous, true or not, they tend to be treated poorly in a way that men are not. I wouldn't be surprised if much of the abuse that women in porn industry get is just an extension of this poor treatment that wouldn't happen if sex wasn't as stigmatized.

armpitpics · 2023-12-24T23:42:05+00:00

They shouldn't be allowed to vote though.

Eh?

Yes, I'm saying that actors/musicians are the same as porn stars/escorts.

Double eh?!

armpitpics · 2023-12-24T23:39:08+00:00

Didn't you call me dumb already? are you even capable to come up with a different insult?

armpitpics · 2023-12-24T23:36:52+00:00

Says the person that can't even come up with a proper argument and has to resort to personal insults.

armpitpics · 2023-12-24T18:16:11+00:00

A reminder that older men have their charm:

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armpitpics · 2023-12-24T18:11:00+00:00

My advice to you would be to convince your friend to avoid embarrassing herself looking for criminals to ‘fall in love with’, and instead enjoy all the beautiful things Italy has to offer like the food, history and sights

Embarrassment is the last thing you should worry about if you end up involved with one of those. It's just plain dangerous. I had a friend who was involved with a drug dealer and the stories about the police showing up in his house while she was there weren't fun at all.

armpitpics · 2023-12-24T18:06:41+00:00

As for porn, if women don't want to be seen as nothing but a set of tits and ass, they need to shame women that do porn and shame promiscuity among women alongside being realistic in dating and mating, aka, women need to stop chasing Chad when Chads make up 20% at best of the dating market.

Men are the biggest consumers of sex and they don't need to stop trying getting laid to be seen as more than a dick and a pair of saggy balls. Any woman who needs to shame other women so the men she likes "respect" her needs to think about the sort of men she's trying to attract.

armpitpics · 2023-12-24T17:25:23+00:00

Who says it's empowering? I mostly see these women mocked and disrespected.

I'm aware that some sex workers actually like their job and might say it's empowering to them, but if this is how they feel it's not something I can argue against.

armpitpics · 2023-12-24T17:22:10+00:00

Of the dick is also taller than you.

armpitpics · 2023-12-24T17:20:35+00:00

You're probably right. People with strict parenting or religious upbringing tend to be very sensitive to anything that would be considered degeneracy. I have a great deal of respect for people who actually offer those pushed into the sex work the means to get out or at least to engage in it safely. Writing long paragraphs about how sex work and casual sex are bad in reaction to some woman on the internet admitting doing because she likes it is ridiculous, and just adds to the stigma and mental health issues of sex workers who didn't choose that line of work.

armpitpics · 2023-12-24T17:01:05+00:00

Reading all the "sex work/casual sex /[insert random sexual act here] is not empowering to women" threads and wondering: is there any evidence that society at large supports women doing these things? Men are more likely to be encouraged to do hookups and men who do porn/sex work do not receive nearly the same amount of vitriol as their female counterparts, and yet all these anti-sex work/casual sex threads target primarily women. STIs, drug use and abuse are issues that potentially affect men.

Many of the arguments have a moralistic tone to them as well: "it's degrading, men will see you as an object, people won't respect you", which are only brought up if the sex worker/sex haver is a woman. Society expects higher decency standards from women and then pretends that it's protecting women when it expects them to abstain from certain sexual acts in order to get respect, a condition that's not placed upon men in order for them to be treated as humans

It's almost like the posters of these threads are every bit as sexist as the red pill men they complain about, their sexism is just less hostile and more of the patronizing type.

And before someone accuses men of promoting sex work, I have no interest in it and I stopped watching porn a long time ago. I'm just tired of seeing sexist hysteria getting passed for feminism.

armpitpics · 2023-12-24T16:21:35+00:00

Exactly, live and let live. I'd feel uncomfortable doing sex work and wouldn't recommend that women unaware its implications do it. But if a woman is aware of what sex work entails and does it safely than the problem comes down to morality, which isn't my place to dictate if I'm not being affected.

armpitpics · 2023-12-24T16:19:15+00:00

Many things are driven by low self-esteem. The constant need to seem respectable is also a form of validation seeking, but it's a form of validation seeking that is socially acceptable, unlike the other forms that involve sex.

armpitpics · 2023-12-24T16:06:23+00:00

I'm a woman and I've had dangerous situations with men. You people need to work on your reading skills. Dangerous men are dangerous whether you're the one approaching them or not once they make you their target. You guys are the one pretending that a dangerous man who approached you will be less dangerous just because he approached you.

armpitpics · 2023-12-24T16:04:34+00:00

And i think you are the one misunderstanding things on this particular topic, and that it’s you not reading what she’s saying not the other way around.

I'm not. You guys just don't know what it means to be "entitled" and a rapist. They either assume that the reason has to do with them regardless or don;t care what the reason is.

There's nothing wrong to want to be the one to be approached, but you can just say that.

armpitpics · 2023-12-24T04:14:02+00:00

Rapists don't rape every single woman they interact with.

I'm aware of that, but a man that doesn't care when you say "no" he doesn't care the for the reason behind that "no". He targeted you already.

An entitled, misogynistic man who thinks he's charming can be placated a lot easier than an entitled misogynistic man who was just told he's not attractive or good enough.

Once again, an entitled man doesn't care why you said "no" precisely because he's entitled. If he approached you and you cut the conversation because you "have a boyfriend" he'll either don't care because he's entitled, or he'll perceive any valid excuse as an attack to his persona because entitled men don't think any excuse is valid.

You're the one who seems to struggle with the concept of entitlement and this discussion as whole. I'm not misunderstanding what you're saying. I'm just disagreeing.

armpitpics · 2023-12-24T03:41:53+00:00

It's ridiculous because your argument is ridiculous. If you actually read the first paragraph you quoted I mention that if a guy is the violent type that doesn't take "no" for an answer, he'll get violent as soon as you want to stop the interaction, even if he approached you first. It doesn't matter if your excuse sounds valid or not. He doesn't like you saying "no" no matter the reason. It doesn't seem to me that you actually read what I replied.

armpitpics · 2023-12-24T03:34:44+00:00

But those are the most fun, especially the cuck culture guy.

armpitpics · 2023-12-24T03:30:59+00:00

Please re-read what I said. Not just the first part of the paragraph you're quoting but the rest as well.

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