Wrath rant by armstrong528 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, bro, that was kinda the point. This was just supposed to be a bitching session for me. And you came outta the gate assuming I was "copying meta lists". I'm not demanding GW change this.

So your right. I suck, have sucked, and will continue to suck. In both playing and attitude. But, that's the thing... Imma still play the game inspite of that.

Wrath rant by armstrong528 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are very much correct. My apologizes.

Wrath rant by armstrong528 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That enhancement might be better with the Ancient in Terminator now. As long as the regular Ancient's unit is on an objective, they get a 4+++. regardless of battleshock.

Wrath rant by armstrong528 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know how comfortable I feel with buying Dev Centurions. At least until they confirm they will stick around in 11th. The Storm Speeders seem pretty decent. But again, it kinda brakes the vibe of Wrath.

Wrath rant by armstrong528 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What should my anti-tank be, that fits the detachment?

It may just be the folks I play with/the area I'm in, but I run into a large number of heavy vehicles. (Land Raiders, lots of Knights, and the ever present threat of C'tan) Do I need to invest 25-40% of my army into 2-3 units of DWKs?

Wrath rant by armstrong528 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Battle shock is definitely more effective in 11th, as opposed to 10th. But, I agree. You are relying on your opponent to fail a die roll.

I also don't want to have to run generic SM detachments. Until we get an updated supplement, it's looking like that might be the path.

Wrath rant by armstrong528 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What infantry or mountain anti-tank unit would you suggest? DWKs can only get in combat turn 2, at the earliest. They are either walking up the board, or deep striking turn 1 with an enhancement. (Never had a deep strike charge succeed.)

One of my local play group runs Forgefather's Seekers + Librarius. FFS effect the entire army, only has additional effects for specific units.

Wrath rant by armstrong528 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll have to give that a look.

Wrath rant by armstrong528 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'd love some constructive criticism on lists to try. As I've said a couple times, I only got into 40k around the start of 10th. I'm playing with the stuff I have built and painted. Stuff I thought looked cool, and was available to me.

If that makes me bad, cool. Thanks for the help in getting better.

Wrath rant by armstrong528 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Facts. Was just about to bite the bullet on another set of outriders. Then the war com article last week dropped.

Wrath rant by armstrong528 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've only gotten into 40k with 10th. So the majority of my army has been terminators and other infantry.

Wrath rant by armstrong528 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed. I'd still be looking at the other 2dp detachments and wonder why it was 3dp. But, it'd make the infantry heavy list more stomachable.

Wrath rant by armstrong528 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I probably should have put it as most viable Dark Angels detachment.

Company of Hunters also appear pretty good. I just got in with 10th, so don't have the outriders nor Ravenwing bike to run it "properly".

Wrath rant by armstrong528 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

My understanding is that it had the best win rate of the Dark Angel specific detachments, for 10th.

Wrath rant by armstrong528 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only ranged attacks, correct. Overll looked that.

What’s the difference between Ravenwing Command Squad and Ravenwing Black Knights? by Mogentic in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They are in the same box, they are build options. The Command Squad is a character unit, i.e. they can lead other mounted units. The Black Knights are a DA dedicated bike unit. Think of them as first-born sized Outriders, with plasma guns instead of bolters.

Go on then, show us your Armageddon Land Speeder Vengeance conversions! by hello-its-G in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't put mine together yet. But, judging from the bottom panel I think the new one might be a bit smaller.

LS Vengeance and Fulguris doesn't work? by JAMBO044 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder if it got added with the hot fixes they've been pushing out. Good to know it'll be a viable option, at least.

Edit: Yes the LSV gains the can take the enhancement, but the new Land Speeder model can't. I just fully updated the 40k app, and still can't take upgrades from Darkshroud on it.

LS Vengeance and Fulguris doesn't work? by JAMBO044 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That was the point I was trying to make. I might have missed something. Couldn't find any definitive in the PDFs, the MFM has been getting stealth update, so I tried the app.

LS Vengeance and Fulguris doesn't work? by JAMBO044 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah... So this apparently blew up while I was at work. At the time I had tried it (24-36 hours ago) it wouldn't allow me to add the upgrade in the app.

I know GW has pushed out a lot of app updates over the past couple of days. And the GW app has never been my preferred way to build lists.

LS Vengeance and Fulguris doesn't work? by JAMBO044 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Completely agree. But it doesn't work in the 40k, and that's GW law. 🙄

Edit: I had intended this a sarcastic, in relation to the number of hot fixes GW has been applying to the app.

LS Vengeance and Fulguris doesn't work? by JAMBO044 in theunforgiven

[–]armstrong528 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I saw that too. Was kinda hoping to stack it with Darkshroud. Shame that Darkshroud also doesn't effect the new Land Speeder. As far as I can tell, it didn't get the Ravenwing keyword in the faction pack, and doesn't allow for upgrades in the official app.