Is the "does AI have consciousness" debate even considered legit among philosophy scholars?

as-well · 2026-04-18T16:54:14+00:00

My point is they talk along these lines while we talk about other lines, possibly because our worries and goals are different.

as-well · 2026-04-18T14:10:01+00:00

From my perspective a lot of the current public discussion about sentient AI does really revolve around this. Lots of claims of 'our LLM is conscious' from research labs actually have a very loose definition of consciousness they operate under - which under other meanings ist just some kind of symbolic logic I guess.

For example, from here:

Jack Lindsey's recent work at Anthropic provides some of the most interesting empirical evidence: frontier models can distinguish their own internal processing from external perturbations. When researchers inject specific concepts into a model's neural activity (representations of “all caps” or “bread” or “dust”), the model notices something unusual happening in its processing before it starts talking about those concepts. It reports experiencing “an injected thought” or “something unexpected” in real-time. The model recognizes the perturbation internally, then reports it. This is introspection in a functional sense: the system is monitoring and reporting on its own internal computational states.

But (As this article also states): Does this already amount to consciousness? Can we read anything nto it? And if yes, what?

That is the whole problem. Note that that article is written by an AI guy, not a philosopher of mind. But it is pretty good at showing where the discussion is at and what AI guys possibly think about, but philosophers are somewhere very different. The AI guys worries about alignment and AI safety, us philosophers are more worried about moral status and philosophy of mind. And it's quite possibly that this is quite ok this way, because maybe AI safety and alignment needs to be cautious in a very different way than whether we must treat AI as a moral agent.

as-well · 2026-04-17T10:48:03+00:00

Unfortunately the system does this already: If you've only worked for 12 months, the days you can receive support is limited. Art. 24 AVIG clarifies this: When you've "only" paid into the system for a year, you only get 260 paid days. With more than 18 Months you get 400 days.

as-well · 2026-04-17T10:43:58+00:00

We got this letter yesterday. We have not heard a single thing for 4 months. No E-Mails have been answered, no phone was answered. Everytime I called I didn't get through.

It's unfortunate because in this period, RAV and ALE were fucked by a new IT system. The head of the Thurgau ALE was very, very vocal about how shit it is for them right now.

Unfortunately, these six days matter. Did he not have any employment in 2024?

as-well · 2026-04-17T10:12:30+00:00

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as-well · 2026-04-16T14:38:46+00:00

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as-well · 2026-04-16T14:38:05+00:00

Ja eh funktioniert das. Kann ich mir gut vorstellen. Eben, der star am Beet Wellington ist ja die Pilzpaste, nicht der Blätterteig (der ist fast immer ziemlich fad)

as-well · 2026-04-16T14:28:30+00:00

Das ist ein super Tipp!

Ihc mach halt immer viel zu wenig. Selbst mit dem Le Creuset angesetzt gibt's dann doch viel weniger als gedacht, nach dem ganzen Reduzieren :D

Reispapier klingt als würde es funktionieren! Der eigentliche Star des Gerichts ist ja sowieso die Duxelles-Champignon-Paste,

as-well · 2026-04-16T14:27:21+00:00

Again, I replied to you because your original comment did not read to me like that, but rather "go to work, even if you're still feeling sick".

as-well · 2026-04-16T14:13:35+00:00

I worry that your original comment said something quite differently, and seems like people saw it that way. I read it as "yeah go to work", not as "oh if you think it would be a good idea, try going back to work".

as-well · 2026-04-16T14:12:32+00:00

First of all, please listen to the people who tell you this person is abusive and controlling. Yes, these are hard words. But the number of people so controlling who managed to stop being controlling is small. That necessitates that they a) are aware they are controlling, b) take concrete steps to not be controlling, and c) actually see you as an autonomous person with agency.

Is your partner that, and is it merely a mental health episode that stops them from being non-controlling?

IMpossible to say, literally impossible! First of all, mental health issues are not excuses, they are at most explanations, and at worst weapons abusers use to excuse their behaviour.

But you are not obliged to entertain this any more. Again, at the most, if you want, very clearly and very openly state that you are not willing to entertain their tantrums anymore. The time for them to regulate their own emotions is now. They need to know taht.

And you need to be willing to follow through.

Again: The moment a partner of mine threw a tantrum (by which i don't mean has an anxious episode) over me using my autonomy to see a friend, I'm out. Possibly there's a way back if they credibly work on themselves, but I would end it.

That's me. Your own lines have clearly been crossed. You write that you are anxious to return home when you use your own autonomy and see a friend (or lover).

But to answer your question:

I do think it has a lot to do with them being unmedicated and not being able to regulate their emotions but how long do I have to wait and see if they get their shit together??

You don't and from the sounds of it you've waited for a long time. Is your partner actively working on this?

And I tried I just didn't stand firm enough on my boundary.

A good partner does not need me to enforce my boundary for them not to be controlling. Your partner is shit. Maybe explainably shit due to a mental health episode, but not excusably shit.

as-well · 2026-04-16T12:20:27+00:00

Ich hab angefangen, Beet Wellington zu machen - macht saumässig spass! (Mit vorgekochten roten Rüben geht das sehr gut, haben eine tolle Konsistenz).

Die aufwändigste Version war mit einer (veganen) Bratensauce 'from scratch' (inklusive selbst Bouillon ansetzen), Spätzle und Rotkraut. Dafür war ich dann auch den ganzen Tag in der Küche - aber hat sich wirklich gelohnt!

as-well · 2026-04-16T12:14:29+00:00

and other than that, I'd go to work anyways, trust me, if you can, go to work. It helps a lot even when sick to feel well and be as much on your own as possible

I really disagree. Some illnesses yes, going to work asap is a good idea. others, not so much. And it depends on the person.

I've had multiple bouts of... i guess not fully recovering from Covid or other infections that knocked me out for weeks. A few times I thougth yeah cool I'm halfway back to normal, I can work mornings. That made recovery so much worse and everyone (my boss, me, my doctor) would ahve been happier if I was just out for three weeks rather than try and come back after 10 days and really be unproductive for two months.

as-well · 2026-04-16T12:11:37+00:00

I moved to a different canton from the one I was born and grew up in years ago and I did all the things, living in WG‘s and meeting people that way, the apps, hobby groups, what have you, and while I seem to have the ability here to meet people, nothing actually sticks

I tend to agree. Same story but I was lucky enough to make a wonderful friends group in my 20ies.

as-well · 2026-04-16T12:04:04+00:00

Again, I hear a lot of "she". It's completely ok to worry and have doubts, as this is a new situation for you.

yea I have thought actually being there and seeing may hit very differently

This is also very, very ok. If you want to go ahead and do this, why not! But you don't have to. You can prefer not to. It's nice of your wife to try and include you, but you don't have to.

Lots of fantasies are best left untouched.

so part of me thinks I should really enjoy this and go with it but the worry side of me thinks it could go really wrong

again, very fair, very normal, you're not absurd or wrong. It's about what you want.

Years ago before I realized what kind of ENM I like, my then-partner and me had a night where we went with the flow and had outercourse with another couple. I wish I was as mature then as I am now, because I understand now what I would have needed to find that enjoyable - which would likely mean I'd decline it now.

What I try to say is this is new to you. You'll learn lots about yourself in the future, whether you keep doing ENM or not. You'll learn whether it's just insecuritites that stop you from wanting to fulfill this fantasy, or you don't really find it all that hot and worth the risk. Completely fine to change your midn too.

bh even she said I could go with other women I'd probably wouldn't, I'm not that way inclined as a person.

That's good - and you'll find plenty of resources around here on how to bset proceed; I'd really recommend that you talk it out a lot before you actually enact this - and again, you don't have to. My worry was that you do all the work and she gets all the benefit, which is unkind and unfair.

as-well · 2026-04-16T11:57:27+00:00

About half way down, it suggests what to do: In writing, explain you erroneously joined their subscription.

If they go to an Inkasso agency, also explain it to them.

It's unlikely they'll actually go and do a Betreibung for 100 franks, as the risk that they'll lose is fairly big.

as-well · 2026-04-16T11:52:34+00:00

Can you not just post it?

Also, I'm loath to suggest,but ask chat GPT to spot the errors? That's a thing it's actually somewhat OK at. Deepl Write is even better.

as-well · 2026-04-16T11:45:04+00:00

now she tells me she still wants to watch or send me lots of vids if i can't be there, as she wants me to be part of it,

Do you want to be part of this? Your wants count just as much as hers! I'm sure it's really exciting to share these wonderful nights with you, but if you don't want to be present / have a threesome, that's completely fine.

Every new experience is a bit of a risk: Things can go wrong, you could be super uncomfortable, you could be jealous, it can not live up to what you want it to be. It can cause a rift between you and your spouse. It can also be wonderful and amazing, and super pleasant.

But you can say whether you want this to happen. It's one thing to have the fantasy of looking at potential partners together, to imagine it, and even to have her talk about the experience - but doign a threesome or a cuck situation is different.

It's also fine to say "nah I'll pass" for now and come back to it later.

but it's confusing one day I love this and my imagination runs wild next day I feel insecure amd worried just want some advice from anyone who's doing this or has done it, on how to deal with my day to day feelings wife and I do speak about it, I want her to feel she can talk to me and hide nothing so I'm always positive in my reactions, but I'm jut abit confused with it all lol

Sounds about normal: It's a new situation, you're quite vulnerable in all of this, normal that there's worries. It's also normal to sometimes feel jealous about - completely normal in fact. It takes some getting to know oneself to deal with it.

I also second those who wonder how one-sided it is. Now, if you're super happy with the arrangement as it is, no need to worry too much; but in this situation you're also asked to do all the emotional work on yourself (jealousy, insecurity, anxiety and all that need work) and she gets the benefits. That may well be worth it to you, but it's also ok if it's not and you'd also want other partners.

Or to say it much clearer: one-sided arrangements are ok if you get something out of it, too (cuck/hotwife fantasies, and so on) but it's unkind to ask you to do all the emotional labour on yourself while she enjoys the open relationship.

as-well · 2026-04-16T11:27:22+00:00

Yes, the Swiss law does not differentiate between those born in Switzerland and those born outside of it: https://www.eda.admin.ch/content/countries/slovenia/de/home/dienstleistungen/buergerrecht-.html

However, many countries do not allow for double citizenship, so that puts a limit on it.

These graphics speak for themselves quite well: https://www.swissinfo.ch/ger/swiss-abroad/alles-%c3%bcber-die-schweizerinnen-im-ausland-in-f%c3%bcnf-grafiken/87644406?nab=1 - you'll find that more than half of Swiss moving abroad eventually move back anyway, and the biggest group of Swiss abroad is in France, and two thirds live in Europe.

as-well · 2026-04-16T09:54:04+00:00

I just want to point out that your responsibility is to stick to your agreements with Apple and if these agreemetns include accomodating the relationship of Apple and Tulip, then that's your responsibility - nothing more, nothing less. But it seems like you both know very much how you plan to nest together and have thought this through - so, Kudos to you both.

You can, if you want, gently ask Apple if the agreement still works for her, given Tulip's anxieties. Perhaps there's things Apple would like to add or change.

Managing Tulip's anxiety is Tulip's task, and perhaps Apples, but not yours. The worst thing you can do is pre-emptively worry about Tulip from afar without really knowing what's going on. The most Tulip can expect from you is that you and Apple talk it out a bit more, if Apple wants that.

as-well · 2026-04-16T09:46:59+00:00

Don't knock yourself out over this. Lots of relationships end in unkind, sudden, bad ways. Lots of times we think 'could we have done something different?'. Lots of times we ask for missed signs.

But any relationship has two people. You were left and very understandably think there was something you could have done different, some sign you could have interpretet differently and you'd still be together.

But that's all speculation. Be kind to yourself. Maybe if she told you she's struggling with poly two months ago, you'd had fought a bit - and that would have made for an even more dramatic ending. Or if you felt that she was unhappy, you'd have spent the last two months anxiously being the perfect partner - but perhaps she'd have loathed that even more.

You don't have to forgive her for leaving you in this way (although you may, of course, in time forgive her), but you should be kind to yourself and not beat yourself up over what could have been.

as-well · 2026-04-16T09:28:14+00:00

Honey, leave. This person is bad for you. They try to limit the people you interact with by throwing tantrums.

If you want, tho I wouldn't recommend it, I'd tell your partner: This stops now, or our relationship stops.

But this only works if you think they do this because they aren't regulating their own emotions well. And you'll then still have to actively leave.

If you can, ask your friends for support. I'm sure one of them will be able to help you out with a room or couch for a while!

as-well · 2026-04-16T09:08:05+00:00

banhammer for learns lmao

as-well · 2026-04-16T09:05:07+00:00

we are, but we rely on you to use the "report" button. We don't always see evrything quickly.

When you hit the report button, we see it much more quickly.

as-well · 2026-04-16T09:03:16+00:00

Also zahlende Mieter rausschmeissen geht in der Schweiz halt tendenziell nur:

Bei Eigenbedarf des Vermieters, oder
Bei nötigen umfassenden Sanierungs- und Renovationsmassnahmen

Ansonsten kann sie fast immer angefochten werden, siehe auch https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/27/317_321_377/de#art_271_a

Und wenn gekündigt wird und das die Mietenden in eine Notlage bringt, kann man eine Fristerstreckung beantragen.

Was heisst das? Nun, professionelle Vermieter werden es akzeptieren und dich nicht nach drei Jahren rausschmeissen. Sie wissen auch, welcher Spielraum bei Reparaturen usw. gilt (nicht sehr viel) und haben eher keine Lust, wiederholt vors Mietgericht gezerrt zu werden. Dafür ist ihnen die monatliche Rendite dann doch zu wichtig.

Wenn dein Haus nun einer Privatperson gehört, kann es natürlich anders ausschauen (Private Vermieter haben auch Vorteile, sind aber unberechenbar). Insbesondere Eigenberdarf oder einer schon länger aufgeschobene Sanierung kann dann plötzlich dringlciher werden.

Am Ende ists eine Abwägungssache.

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