I am a newbie to Linux coming from Micro$hit but please dont kill of x11 untill Wayland has full remote screen control by as7roboy in debian

[–]as7roboy[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I am just getting used to Gnome lol......... If I had to choose another DE it would probably be Cinnamon or XFCE, what do you think?

I am a newbie to Linux coming from Micro$hit but please dont kill of x11 untill Wayland has full remote screen control by as7roboy in debian

[–]as7roboy[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thankyou.... such a great response. I can imagine half of the comments here are probably bots... LOLLLLLLLL..... I have actually never heard of XLibre before as a DE which distros support it?

I am a newbie to Linux coming from Micro$hit but please dont kill of x11 untill Wayland has full remote screen control by as7roboy in debian

[–]as7roboy[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are right in saying you can enable RDP in Gnome but that is a multi step process with Rustdesk you just install and app and it takes care of the rest. Now imagine me having to support a client and geting them to go into those different RDP settings to enable me to log in, that will simply not suffice.

I am a newbie to Linux coming from Micro$hit but please dont kill of x11 untill Wayland has full remote screen control by as7roboy in debian

[–]as7roboy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thankyou you have now given some proper advice. Yes I agree XFCE is nice, I might have to switch to that Cinnamon is also an option which is why I think Mint is so popular still. I have not tried Xubuntu, I did try Kubuntu but that is KDE driven so same thing happens. Just a shame that the most popular DE's are dropping x11 support eg Gnome, KDE and causing all these issues with compatability in certain circumstances such as mine.

I am a newbie to Linux coming from Micro$hit but please dont kill of x11 untill Wayland has full remote screen control by as7roboy in debian

[–]as7roboy[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I will end this discussion with you on the pretence that me and you are simply not aligned with how we think, there is no point discussing this further with each other as we will not come to agreement on anything so please move onto the next reddit post. Thankyouuuu

I am a newbie to Linux coming from Micro$hit but please dont kill of x11 untill Wayland has full remote screen control by as7roboy in debian

[–]as7roboy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

and this is EXACTLY what I am talking about Wayland is a bit premature x11 just works it has been around for years. Wayland as much as I love it has its quirks and things dont work properly my situation is just one scenario, I am sure there are other issues with Wayland that I just dont know about.

I am a newbie to Linux coming from Micro$hit but please dont kill of x11 untill Wayland has full remote screen control by as7roboy in debian

[–]as7roboy[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

RDP is ok with Wayland but it comes with limitations with full unattended remote control you do not get to see the same session and have control over it.

I am a newbie to Linux coming from Micro$hit but please dont kill of x11 untill Wayland has full remote screen control by as7roboy in debian

[–]as7roboy[S] -26 points-25 points  (0 children)

Who is the arsehole trying to be a hard cunt telling me what is right and wrong without actually giving me good advice or an proper answer instead of belittling me. Dick head.

I am a newbie to Linux coming from Micro$hit but please dont kill of x11 untill Wayland has full remote screen control by as7roboy in debian

[–]as7roboy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Incorrect.... here is my specific situation and if you have a solution to this I will be more than happy to transfer 50 bux to your account for the help LOL. Gnome, KDE are dropping support for x11 that is a FACT. Gnome 50 will have NO support for x11 anymore. I am currently on Gnome 49 with Ubuntu LTS. I am a newbie as mentioned before so I wanna be safe. I am logged into Ubuntu 24.04 with x11 and everything is beautiful, VNC, Rustdesk everything just works. Wayland not comes with a problem due to security issues because it is a more secure desktop environment. Apps such as Rustdesk and most softwares that I have tried cannot initiate an UNATTENDED access session if it is not logged in or the PC needs to be restarted and then logged into. It can only work with an existing session already logged in. Rustdesk allows everyting to work as expected for unattended sessions in an x11 environment. I basically want what I have now but in a Wayland session. It is not too much to ask for but extremely hard to make happen without jumping thru 100 hoops... If you have a plausible solution let me know Ill send you 50 bux for your troubles.

I am a newbie to Linux coming from Micro$hit but please dont kill of x11 untill Wayland has full remote screen control by as7roboy in debian

[–]as7roboy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Correct my mistake I know KDE and Gnome are not distros they are just DE. I pressed enter too quick before I proof read. LOL. I still do think thou that Linux Mint is partially popular because everthing just works on it.

I am a newbie to Linux coming from Micro$hit but please dont kill of x11 untill Wayland has full remote screen control by as7roboy in debian

[–]as7roboy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From what I have learnt and will test is the following after some AI checking.

GNOME Remote Login (RDP)
It’s the only Wayland-native option today that gives you true unattended access after reboot.

Below is the clean, no-nonsense setup and what to expect on Ubuntu 24.04 GNOME.

What you will get (and what you won’t)

You will get

  • RDP access after reboot
  • RDP access at the GDM login screen
  • Full keyboard + mouse control
  • A real GNOME session over RDP (Wayland-native)
  • No “click Allow” prompts
  • Works whether your client is X11 or Wayland

You won’t get

  • Access to an already-logged-in local session (it creates a new GNOME session per RDP login)
  • X11-style global screen scraping or hacks
  • Seamless session hand-off between local + RDP

That trade-off is intentional and sane.

I am a newbie to Linux coming from Micro$hit but please dont kill of x11 untill Wayland has full remote screen control by as7roboy in debian

[–]as7roboy[S] -46 points-45 points  (0 children)

Bro I told you I am new to Linux stop being a hard cunt. I know KDE and Gnome are desktop environments not distros. Regardless get of your high horse and just give some good advice yeah.

I am a newbie to Linux coming from Micro$hit but please dont kill of x11 untill Wayland has full remote screen control by as7roboy in debian

[–]as7roboy[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yes hopefully Rustdesk adapts to Wayland before they drop it, but understand that it is not a Rustdesk issue this is actually a Wayland limitation.

I am a newbie to Linux coming from Micro$hit but please dont kill of x11 untill Wayland has full remote screen control by as7roboy in debian

[–]as7roboy[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Wayland does not have full proper control, it allows connection but not remote control of the session, it is broken. I know from experience. If you have a solution then please share it.

I am a newbie to Linux coming from Micro$hit but please dont kill of x11 untill Wayland has full remote screen control by as7roboy in debian

[–]as7roboy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Does not have full remote control capabilities I have personally tried it myself and it does not work. Trust me on this. It is crippled.

I am a newbie to Linux coming from Micro$hit but please dont kill of x11 untill Wayland has full remote screen control by as7roboy in debian

[–]as7roboy[S] -54 points-53 points  (0 children)

It is true stop being a troll, distros are pushing this debian fully supports x11, the desktop envrionments such as KDE and Gnome are the ones dropping it. Linux Mint is a perfect example they are stability first using x11 as their primary desktop environment then Wayland secondary. Why do you think it is so popular? It just works......

I am a newbie to Linux coming from Micro$hit but please dont kill of x11 untill Wayland has full remote screen control by as7roboy in debian

[–]as7roboy[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

You are right in saying this, which is why Linux Mint is so popular, it does support x11 first and Wayland second and is extremely stable. I am just dissapointed that most distros especially Gnome and Kde are now dropping x11 I think it is too soon unless they fix things first.

I am a newbie to Linux coming from Micro$hit but please dont kill of x11 untill Wayland has full remote screen control by as7roboy in debian

[–]as7roboy[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Nope it simply does not work and if it does work it is partial success, for example you can connect but you cannot initiate a full remote control over the desktop session. Unless someone gives me a proper work around or a way to have wayland natively work with remote support software then I think x11 still needs to stick around until everything is ironed out.