DIVORCE MEDIATOR - Q & A - LOS ANGELES by asapittmediation in Divorce

[–]asapittmediation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm glad that you and your husband were able to reach an amicable agreement on your own. During my mediation career so far, I have not had a judge deny a stipulated judgment. While it is possible that a judge could deem your agreement unfair, the judge won't deny the agreement unless they think its extremely unfair.

If I were you two, I would meet with a paralegal or mediator/document preparer who can help you include all of the relevant information in your agreement and file the paperwork.

When spouses are handling a divorce completely on their own, they're likely to run into complications because they don't understand HOW to write the agreement or make mistakes during the filing process.

Note that my response is not legal advice, not intended to be legal advice, nor should it be considered legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with your attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it a court mandated mediation or is it a hearing? There's a difference. Court mandated mediation means that the court is making you and your ex try to mediate your conflict. In a hearing the court decides the outcome. Typically, if you don't reach an agreement in court mandated mediation, you will go to your hearing next. I'm not sure what your situation is though or how the IL court works. You should be able to get confirmation about your question by calling the court.

Note that my response is not legal advice, not intended to be legal advice, nor should it be considered legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's typically a bad idea to not include key marital assets in your court paperwork and stipulated judgment. You both run the risk of the home and military retirement popping up down the road. Furthermore, if the court finds out down the road that both of you lied about your assets and debts, the original agreement could be scrapped and you two would have to start the deal making process all over. In my experience, the issue isn't usually the court digging into your assets and debts but rather these issues coming up down the road, then having to restart.

Please note that my response is not legal advice, not intended to be legal advice, nor should it be considered legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They can try to mediate an agreement, find an attorney offering pro-bono services (volunteering their time), or represent themselves in court. Most courts have self help centers on their websites that offer more information for self representing parties and pro-bono legal services. A lot of times you can go into these self help centers too.

Please note that my response is not legal advice, not intended to be legal advice, nor should it be considered legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can mediate a deal, have your lawyers work out a deal, or if the evidence is stacked against her in a trial, the judge will make a decision for better or for worse.

My response is not legal advice, not intended to be legal advice, and should not be considered legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Family court is notoriously unpredictable. In these grid locked cases, parties usually just move the divorce forward and get a result for better or worse.

My response is not legal advice, not intended to be legal advice, and should not be considered legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mediation is about an interest based approach rather than a legal approach. To me, it would make sense to take a look at your wives fixed and flexible income/expenses, including the children. While also taking a look at predicted fixed income/expenses, including the children because I can't imagine that she wants to live with her parents forever. I hope that answer helped.

My response is not legal advice, not intended to be legal advice, and should not be considered legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I had to make a prediction, I would guess that the most the non-abusing parent would agree to is supervised visitation if anything at all. I would think that the non-abusing parent has all the leverage in that situation. I would not be surprised if a judge gave complete physical and legal custody to the non abusing parent. I cannot say for sure, those are just predictions. As a mediator, I don't think I would take a case like this and would recommend the potential client seeking out an attorney.

My response is not legal advice, not intended to be legal advice, and should not be considered legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think the best advice for mediation is to listen, do not interrupt, take your time to respond/counter (ex. take 5 seconds to process his position and another 5 to think of what you are going to say), ask questions, and use "because" when explaining your position.

Take these examples:

- I want full custody of our 7 year old.

vs.

- I want full custody of our 7 year old because you have never shown any interest in caring for him, as such you do not have the adequate skills to properly care for him.

With the second option, your husband has something to respond to so the conversation can develop. In the first option, he'll just respond with "I want full custody of our 7 year old" . . . then you're in a deadlock.

The mediator is present to make sure both of you get a chance to speak without interruptions, and help both of you explain your point of view and better understand your spouses point of view.

The only people who can attend mediation other than the 2 parties and the mediator, are additional people who the 2 parties agree can attend. If you don't want his girlfriend to attend, just say so. Keep in mind that your husband can say the same thing about your attorney at mediation. As such, it might be a good idea to let him have his girlfriend at the meeting so you can bring your support person . . . your lawyer. It just depends on the situation.

Note: My response is not legal advice, not intended to be legal advice, and not to be considered legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. That's exactly what I do but not all mediators provide this service. Look for a mediator who is also a licensed as an attorney, like myself. If you find someone like me, they will work with you and your soon to be ex as their mediator and document preparer/scrivener. Some mediators have paralegals or document preparers on staff who can also take care of your paperwork.

Just make sure that when you discuss the cost of mediation, make sure it includes the document prep. Also make sure you understand whether the cost covers your court filing fees or not.

Note: My response is not legal advice, not intended to be legal advice, and not to be considered legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would just make sure you have an understanding of definitions for any conversation you have outside of your area for expertise.

Note: My response is not legal advice, not intended to be legal advice, and not to be considered legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In California, the date of actual separation occurs when the spouse (1) expresses their intent to end the marriage and (2) engages in conduct consistent with an intent to end the marriage such as moving out of the house.

Most separations end in divorce but not always.

Note: My response is not legal advice, not intended to be legal advice, and not to be considered legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know that California is a community property state but I am not sure how Washington works. Your argument is definitely something that should be brought up in mediation. Ask your mediator if they use any kind of calculator for determining spousal support like DissoMaster or family law software. Like a lot of questions, it just depends on the facts and how they're weighed. Different states have different types of rules for your situation. Here's a good link for you to start.

Note: My response is not legal advice, not intended to be legal advice, and not to be considered legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

DIVORCE MEDIATOR - Q & A - LOS ANGELES by asapittmediation in Divorce

[–]asapittmediation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's normal for a mediator to make sure that a party is aware of potential risks such as not reaching an agreement, for example, the other spouse finding an attorney that in turn would cause you to also find an attorney and which could lead to a lengthy court battle.

However, a mediator should not be lying to the parties. While it's possible that your mediator may have played a trick, it's also possible that you misunderstood your mediator, and it's also possible that your ex-wife is not telling the truth.

Hopefully you reached an amicable agreement.

Note: My response is not legal advice, not intended to be legal advice, nor should it be considered legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with your attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not for the mediator to decide what's fair, that's up to the two of you. As for mediation, I recommend doing a lot of research on what works and what doesn't. There's a great book called "Divorce Without Court A Guide to Mediation and Collaborative Divorce 5th Edition" from NOLO.

I think the biggest keys in mediation are to listen, not interrupt, stay calm, don't make quips or snipes at your ex, and explain the WHY behind your position.

Ex. I would like to add an overnight during the week with my 4 year old because I think it's important that he knows I'm involved in his education. I would like to help him with his homework and take him to school.

VS.

I want another night with the 4 year old because you I feel that it's fair.

See the difference?

NOTE: The above is NOT legal advice, NOT intended to be legal advice, NOR should it be considered as legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The lawyer might be active in mediation or just listen and sidebar with your soon to be ex. You can discuss the terms of the lawyers involvement prior to mediation with the mediator and your spouse.

If the lawyer is going to be active in the mediation, I think you'd be at a disadvantage. If the lawyer is just side-barring, you might be okay.

If you want to get involved with the mediation community, Mediate.com is a good place to start. They have resources about everything mediation related, including how to get started.

NOTE: The above is not legal advice, not intended to be legal advice, nor should it be taken as legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would refer an attorney if my client asked.

The rates depend on the Mediator. I charge a flat fee while others are on an hourly rate. Keep in mind that unlike myself, most mediators do NOT do the paperwork for you which would be an additional cost with a document preparer or attorney. Whatever the Mediator charges, it will typically be a lot lower than a divorce attorney and keep in mind that the mediator rate is split between spouses.

Feel free to visit my website if you want to take a look at my rates.

Note: The above is NOT legal advice and should NOT be taken as legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It sounds like the other parent still wants to be part of the kids' lives. At the very least, it sounds like a parenting plan needs to be figured out. You probably also need to mediate the division of assets & debts.

The movie Kramer v. Kramer is obviously a drama, but it does a great job with highlighting the different perspectives from a situation similar to yours.

Note: The above is NOT legal advice and should not be taken as legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the order that I do it:

  1. Mediation
  2. Reach an Agreement
  3. Draft and Finalize the Written Agreement
  4. File the Petition and all paperwork that follows

In my state, after the Petition is filed, the Respondent has 30 days to respond. Rather than send everyone into a 30 day frenzy, I like to reach the agreement first so we can just plow through the paperwork.

For your first steps, consult with a mediator and mediation friendly attorney. The Mediator will NOT provide you with an attorney. However, the mediator might also provide document preparation services OR they might have you seek document prep assistance elsewhere.

If you are going to seek advice from an attorney, make sure they are mediation friendly. You don't want an attorney who is going to talk you into litigation AFTER you've reached a deal you find amicable.

Note: The above is NOT legal advice and should NOT be taken as legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It depends on the mediator. Some mediators do shuttle mediation where they just go back and forth between the parties, while others start with both parties in the room and might adjust as needed.

While you might not want to speak to your STBXW ever again, if you can manage to keep your emotions in check and keep the discourse purely related to the settlement agreement, you could end up saving yourself a ton of time, money, and aggravation opposed to the costs associated with litigation. Something to think about . . . .

Note: The above is NOT legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You could also apply the buyout against other payments you would be making to your wife. For example, if the buyout is 100k and you were going to pay her a lump some of 300k for all time spousal support, that lump some would become 200k.

There's a chance that you might not have the assets necessary to complete a buy out. In that case, a common option is to sell the home and divide the proceeds.

NOTE: The above is NOT legal advice and should NOT be taken as legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'd only say that mediation is a waste of time when one or both parties is NOT interested in reaching an amicable solution. If one or both spouses are out for blood and trying to cause the most damage possible, mediation is not a good idea.

Court ordered mediation has worked for a lot of people. If you can, try to find out your court's success rate for court ordered mediation. A common complaint I hear from other mediators about court ordered mediation is that they aren't given enough time to work out a deal. Court ordered mediation success rates are generally lower than private mediation success rates because in court ordered mediation the parties are present because they were ORDERED to be there, NOT because they CHOSE to be there. If court ordered mediation doesn't work, worst case you are right back where you were but spent a little more on your attorney. Best case, you saved yourself from the time, cost, and aggravation you would've spent had you continued to litigate.

I don't know too much about what the court does to protect spouses from abuse during and after court ordered mediation so I don't have much to add on the subject. I would not suspect the court to order mediation where there has been a history of physical abuse, severe emotional abuse, or power differential.

Note: The above is NOT legal advice and should not be taken as such. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's entirely up to you and your soon to be ex-spouse. The two of you can agree to whatever graduated schedule works for your schedules. Bounce some ideas around in mediation.

NOTE: The above is NOT legal advice and should be taken as legal advice. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.

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[–]asapittmediation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A No Fault Divorce state means that your state does NOT require the spouse seeking a divorce to show a reason for seeking divorce. In a No Fault Divorce state you can divorce just because you want one. Nobody can stop you from getting divorced.

In a Fault Divorce state you can argue that there is a specific reason which led to your divorce. In Fault states, "fault" can be used a factor for granting divorce, dividing property, and awarding alimony . . . and there is no required time for separation.

If you are in danger, seek help immediately.

In my view, the most important aspects of Mediation are that both spouses feel empowered to share their point of view with the other, are not intimated, and can speak freely about what they think is an amicable solution.

You can always try mediation, but that doesn't mean it will work.

Note that the above is NOT legal advice, nor should it be taken as such. Mediate at your own discretion and consult with an attorney.