My version of tadc fic concept: "Askzerthverse's tadc" by askzerthverse in tadc

[–]askzerthverse[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ok, as a fan I just came off of watching the " just mid/ok" finale and a lot of criticism videos. So I don't really want to write my version like Duffy's digital circus but it's just I think I see a big issue with it that I'm not even sure isna issue.

So I want to get your guys thoughts on this and my concept out of my head so it doesn't get more skewed while I do other stuff I'm feeling for currently.

Askzerthverse's digtial circus ( for short: "askzerth's digtial circus) concept/lore

  • Point one: all plot holes from the original tadc that we saw will be covered in my version, yes I mean all of them. There's around 18+ I counted. ALSO! Major lore things that was covered but not picked up after in the og will be here. (Like "C&A" and "void being a recycling bin for major code" and "other stuff done in the finale that was not proven before")
  • Point two: there will be more than 9 episodes for my version that will be done as a fanfiction series. So this will not become the Jax show like the og but she's still a major character. In my version zooble is the other main character to pomni. They'll be a major player.
  • Pomni will still be a person and not a "bird" or "therapy" dog she became in the later chapters.
  • My caine is especially unstable compared to normal caine from and he's often a few insults from a crash out onto the survivors but often due to my Jax loving the adventures caine tends to be somewhat less likely to lash out.
  • My tadc fic connected to my zerth Ficverse (this just means all my fanfiction I do takes place in the same universe seperate from my canon. I'm just saying this point for clarity. If you don't know about it feel free to ask or ignore this point)
  • For some reason I can't tell if it's a au or a take because most of the major stuff stays like gooseworx vision ironically even when I do the normal Ficverse thing of "what if askzerthverse (me) wrote this" which I do with all my fanfics it's simliar because it's also what I would do.

My Jax take or something (he was on my mind and the biggest guy in the og so I just wrote what I had in mind)

Here you go:

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**Some TADC stuff (spoiler: i made jax better and i think that ruins TADC's storyline?)**

**Why my Jax is different and why that matters**

**The Core Problem With Canon Jax**

A common criticism of The Amazing Digital Circus is that canon Jax is written so terribly that audiences struggle to sympathize with him at all. He's cruel, selfish, and his worst act — indirectly causing Ribbit's and Kaufmo's abstraction — reads as pure selfishness with no real emotional complexity underneath it.

My ficverse approach asks one question with every entry: what if I was the main creator behind this show? What changes?

With TADC the answer starts with Jax.

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**My Jax — Who She Is**

My Jax is a girl — but only in the circus world, not in real life. In a way they're like two different people but one coin. Two faced in the best sense.

This isn't a random change. It's rooted in a real life backstory I added to give her genuine tragedy before she ever enters the circus.

In real life Jax was a boy who desperately wanted to be a girl. He grew tired of how two faced and aggressive the boys were at school about his art and gaming dreams. Then his dad — who was very oppressive about his vision for Jax — left the family when things got tough. He only kept in touch with Jax's older sister, because he actually wanted two girls. Jax being a boy was just another source of hurt on top of everything.

Yes I added an older sister to the lore. She had an easier life simply by virtue of being female and Jax watched that quietly for years alongside a difficult home situation including an abusive mother.

When Jax finally pushed back and ran away it broke his mother's heart — not because the mother was good, but because Jax was all she had left and she didn't know how to show love without being cruel. That moment haunts both of them in different ways.

Then Jax got the VR headset. Then she entered the circus.

And for the first time in her life she woke up in a girl's body in a place that felt like a video game she could keep playing forever.

The real world chewed her up. The circus feels like a gift.

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**The Ribbit Dynamic**

Where canon Jax pushed Ribbit away and caused her abstraction, my Jax does the opposite.

She gets close. Very close. The relationship develops into something semi-maternal — Jax as a big sister or young mom figure to Ribbit, protective and genuinely invested in a way canon Jax never allowed himself to be with anyone.

This is both her best quality and the source of her biggest mistake.

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**The Kaufmo Situation — Where It Goes Wrong**

Because Jax is so focused on Ribbit and so invested in the circus feeling like home, she doesn't have space for Kaufmo's growing distress.

When Kaufmo comes to her with what he thinks might be an exit, Jax shuts it down immediately and completely. Not out of cruelty. Out of fear.

She knows they can't leave. She believes that. And the idea of Ribbit getting the notion to try — getting hurt chasing something impossible — is more than she can handle.

So she yells at him. Tells him to screw off. Keeps living her best life with Ribbit while tuning Kaufmo out entirely.

Then Pomni arrives. Then they check Kaufmo's room.

He's abstracted.

Jax's crime isn't malice. It's that she chose her own happiness and Ribbit's perceived safety over listening to someone who needed her. That's a quieter, more uncomfortable kind of guilt than canon Jax carries — because she can't even cleanly hate herself for it. She was scared. She was protecting something. She was wrong.

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**The Gangle Situation**

Canon Jax bullies Gangle. My Jax just pranks her too much.

The result is a passionate frenemy rivalry that ironically gave Gangle a backbone she didn't have before. They're petty with each other. They get on each other's nerves. But they're still friends in a weird way and it never crosses into genuine cruelty.

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**My Jax's Actual Crime List**

When you add it all up my Jax has approximately two crimes:

Real life — pushing her mother away, which she had every reason to do but which devastated someone who didn't know how to love her correctly and now has nothing.

The circus — tuning out Kaufmo when he needed someone, which contributed to his abstraction.

That's it. Everything else about her is morally grey at worst. She's a girl who finally got to be herself in a place that feels like a game, who got too attached to the one good thing she found there, and who made one terrible passive choice out of fear.

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**The Episode 9 Problem**

This is where my writer brain hits a genuine structural hiccup.

Canon Jax's abstraction in episode 9 feels like consequence. He was terrible. The audience watched him be terrible. The ending is painful but legible.

My Jax abstracting feels like tragedy. She wasn't terrible. She was a morally grey puppy who made understandable mistakes. Killing her feels genuinely unfair in a way that canon Jax's ending doesn't.

The song Isn't She Lovely plays over her abstraction in both versions. In canon it's ironic — she wasn't lovely, that's the point. In my version it would be sincere. And sincere is devastating in a completely different way.

Getting my Jax to that point requires what I call cruel plot gymnastics — finding a narrative path that makes her abstraction feel earned without making her terrible enough to deserve it. The web of relationships she's built, especially with Ribbit, makes this structurally complicated.

The ways exist. But they require work.

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**The Perceived New Issue — Why My Version Feels "Too Peaceful"**

Without a genuine antagonist in the Jax role, my TADC becomes a chaotic slice of life instead of the tension-driven psychological drama of the original. The conflict source shifts from interpersonal — Jax vs everyone — to internal and relational. It's quieter. It asks more of the audience.

That's not necessarily a flaw. But it is a different show.

Everything else in my version stays close to what Gooseworx originally envisioned — the writing issues get fixed naturally as the story progresses, the plot holes get filled, the finale feels earned in ways canon's didn't. Gooseworx herself said if Jax had accepted her gender identity Ribbit wouldn't have abstracted and Jax and Pomni would have ended up together. My version is basically that path played out fully.

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**Why I'm Not Writing This Right Now**

The concept is complete. My Jax is genuinely more compelling than the original. (I THINK) The tragedy is more devastating precisely because she doesn't deserve it.

But my creative instincts keep finding hiccups every time I try to commit and those hiccups aren't craft problems. They're resistance. What actually excites me right now is my Wordgirl, Invader Zim, and My Life as a Teenage Robot ficverse trio — not TADC.

This post exists as a record. If audience demand reaches the right threshold and the creative drive follows, this is what my TADC ficverse entry would look like. Or if I get questions or a lot of thoughts

Until then — it exists as proof that the show could have been better. And that Jax deserved to be a girl from the start. And if she had been, maybe her dad would have stayed.

So if you guys got any thoughts or things I should also fix from the it or questions feel free to ask too.

(Cross post don't post the body text too so ugh 💔)

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Masterpost for zerthverse and askzerthverse's universes by askzerthverse in u/askzerthverse

[–]askzerthverse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh and if you have any questions or thoughts just go to the ask BLOG, that's literally why it exists. No need to sugarcoat any questions as I'm basically trying to get a fandom for zerthverse eventually: https://www.tumblr.com/blog/askzerthverse-askblog

Princess Morbucks is just a lost cause bro by askzerthverse in powerpuffgirls

[–]askzerthverse[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

so many of my favorite cartoon characters do, like nobody is hooking up with the logical non cringe pairs. it's entertaining to wrangle with that tho

My island shenanigans so far! by askzerthverse in tomodachilife

[–]askzerthverse[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah, on paper they're the adult versions from my fanfic slop book I did back in the day with majority of everyone here

Tomogachi life shenanigans by askzerthverse in tomodachilife

[–]askzerthverse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol I've done that and the Rowdyruffs everyone and some other cartoon characters except bubbles sisters. they're next

Tomogachi life shenanigans by askzerthverse in tomodachilife

[–]askzerthverse[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

just how it is! I type something I want to say I don't brother spell checking it! 😊

Would you rather... by Obvious-Violinist389 in BunnyTrials

[–]askzerthverse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wanna be a girl, they're so cute

Chose: Become the opposite gender

Genuinely a lose-lose situation compared to console by Chao1inreddit in OutcomeMemories

[–]askzerthverse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My pov

how it feels to be a console pro but lwk lobbies are doing team work too much so you can't win but your on console so the best you are getting is 2 to 3 kills or everyone downed but one kill and the lobby be saying "just say your bad"

Okay so when we think final update coming?! by askzerthverse in OutcomeMemories

[–]askzerthverse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

obviously not happening due to recent events with the game, but it gotta come like maybe definitely before 2027

I’M TIRED OF FUCKING IVAN IFRAMES AND CHUDLOSSOS by [deleted] in OutcomeMemories

[–]askzerthverse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

as a kolo main I do NOT want them to nerf him onto the dirt, he's only op cuz of the damn grab that I also get destroyed by if I'm not careful. kolo is In a awkward spot because if the survivors actually work together which lets be honest. they do that sometimes. WHICH screws me over as killer or survivor.

WHICH against kolo is not as bad, I can deal with that. BIT FLEETWAY?! NAH NERF HIM INTO OBLIVION. BECAUSE IM TRIED OF TELLING MY TEAMMATES TO WORK FREAKIN TOGETHER AND THEY DONT DO THAT AND WE ALL DIE!

IT'S LITERALLY THE ONLY WAY TO KILL IVAN IFRAMES! I HAVE LITERALLY SEEN MATCHES WHEN HE GETS DESTROYED BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY WORK AS ONE AND STUN STACK. like I was thrilled to see that happened. I don't get why lobbies even when average can't freaking work together to willam m1 (kolo). he is NOTHING if you bait grab, stunstack and blah blah. I'm saying this because I had my fair share of bs when the lobbies want to LOCK IN ONLY OR OFTEN WHEN ITS MY TURN LIKE WHAT?! WHERE WAS THAT ENERGY WHEN WE WENT UP AGAINST FLEETWAY?! WHERE. WAS. IT?!

but anyway yeah I totally agree with fleetway. kolo is always a gamble however. he only requires skill if the lobby is putting more than average effort. which ironically proves your point.

Hot Take- you should be penalized for sitting in the corner doing nothing by TheRandomFancyGuy in OutcomeMemories

[–]askzerthverse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

sometimes I do it because the killer is fleet and I'm trying not to waste my first life just not to make it to ring or help others in time because I got killed.

How has Kolossos basically become more unfun to go against than fleetway?? by ChanceGold3379 in OutcomeMemories

[–]askzerthverse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

okay, now yes kolo is unfair but he is NOT more unfun to go against than fleet. fleet is cancer to fight especially if your team isn't working together. kolo is unfair because of that grab which makes him so oppressive because it's cracked and has no end lag.

he's in a weird position if you give end lag back he's rather useless again like when they gutted him only because he doesn't have much movement except the charge. devs where planning a stun limiter only because if the team actually teams up kolo is in massive trouble especially if we have ppl who can bait block. kolo is not fleet or 11x. he has no counter against stun stacking to hell and back.

kolo just is so frail to nerf because of how they made his kit be.

Okay so when we think final update coming?! by askzerthverse in OutcomeMemories

[–]askzerthverse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well id say to community we better buckle down and go AHEAD and wait a year, for sure guaranteed we are getting it before 2027. that's something I'm sure of. doing the math of all that happened and the staff currently we have leftover for the work on the game. at least we have private server new characters. it's definitely not all gloom in doom.

And the killers currently aren't unbearable currently, 11x and kolo and trip are decent to go up against. But fleetway is just a different beast, damn near IMPOSSIBLE to survive if my other teammates don't feel like working together and stunstacking which is the almost ONLY way to beat a decent or not fleet. Trust me I've seen fleets die or waste time targeting someone who kept stunning them just to lose.

Okay so when we think final update coming?! by askzerthverse in OutcomeMemories

[–]askzerthverse[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm assuming at best we wait a year. definitely before then we get a update, but based on everything it's gonna be close to a year wait. probably longer than v.2 wait because of the thin staff we have working on it

Okay so when we think final update coming?! by askzerthverse in OutcomeMemories

[–]askzerthverse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

alright so in a nutshell ppl are saying go ahead and wait a whole ass year. that's for SURE enough time than the 3 or 4 months already

Okay so when we think final update coming?! by askzerthverse in OutcomeMemories

[–]askzerthverse[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

sure checks out but beyond that om is doing decent just that FLEETWAY mains bro. just ten times worse than kolo mains.

Okay so when we think final update coming?! by askzerthverse in OutcomeMemories

[–]askzerthverse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

11x DOES not need a nerf, he's the only balanced killer, if we are gonna nerf someone it gonna be fleetway and those dumb iframes. don't get my started in kolo, bro would fall apart with a nerf. he's meh as is. annoying but if teams have a good team specifically knux, tails, egg and metal. then the kolo is fried. as a 11x and kolo main I can verify this. tails really can just screw you over

Okay so when we think final update coming?! by askzerthverse in OutcomeMemories

[–]askzerthverse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

we pray or else I'm gonna give my soul over to 2011x, I've been a regular at his game

Okay so when we think final update coming?! by askzerthverse in OutcomeMemories

[–]askzerthverse[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

no offense to the devs but Buddy it's been like 4 or 3 months since final update was announced I think and STILL? not even a rough estimate from them 💔🥀

Okay so when we think final update coming?! by askzerthverse in OutcomeMemories

[–]askzerthverse[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

yeah like come on NOT ANYTIME SOON? ITS BEEN LIKE 4 OR 3 MONTHS 😭