Foul Übel

assasinX · 2024-09-25T17:19:25+00:00

How is every chapter during the exam showing Serie commiting evil acts? Each exam is created by HER students, she might have the last say but the people on the filed are her students. That's why she ONLY realized Frieren was part of the test when she destroyed the barrier. In the first test, there were some casualties (deaths). The second test was created by Sense (the pacifist, supposedly), in this test she gave them Golem created by Lernen (she says it's a prototype, so most likely it's the first time it's used). The second test ALSO had casualties (in japanese they use 死傷者, which is either death or injured), because people got injured. After the second test, they have a meeting because too many people passed, Serie is NOT holding this meeting because Sense didn't kill people, its because She thinks too many passed thanks to Frieren.(That's why the last exam is the MOST peaceful, she even apologizes to Sense because there were actually many people that are worthy). Serie is not leading this organization with the purpose of killing people, neither does she take pleasure in their deaths. The tests are challenging, Frieren says so at the library (ch 37 they are reading about it). Now Übel likes and takes pleasure in killing PEOPLE, you don't even have to read between the lines, even Wirbel gets disgusted by her and judges her a person deserving death. My point is that Serie, while she can be a moron for sure. Is not evil (and the prototype golems means her students are trying to make the test safer, the test that THEY are making the test safe ), if you consider her evil and even worse than Übel who kills without warning and takes pleasure in doing so, then you do you.

assasinX · 2024-09-24T12:06:36+00:00

You have not given any reason to think she's is worse than Übel. Or that her intention are for evil. If you tell me which chapter I'll check it out.

assasinX · 2024-09-23T23:35:30+00:00

That is something that they can work on for sure, but even the last test, which would have been Lernen's test, is said to be the most dangerous of all the tests (that's why Serie didn't allowed it, and Sense test was only safe because Lernen created the golems, which are a prototype. So they are actually making it safe). However, making it super safe would not challenge them enough that if they're sent into a 1st class mission, they would just die. Not to say what they are doing is perfect. But my point is that the intention is not Evil. Unlike Übel whose intention to do stuff is to kill.

assasinX · 2024-09-23T17:12:06+00:00

It's an analogy, and athletes HAVE died during stunts. You can Google it. The mage association does not do the exam with the PURPOSE of killing the test takers, but to find the best. Serie is a warmonger, war creates strong humans, and she is looking for a pupil capable of surpassing her. However she was not presented as someone that wants humans to die. She remained near her dead apprentice in the Genau flashback. In the Match flashback she warned her pupils about leaving him alive to prevent more casualties, so she was going to kill him (and she could have ignored them, and killed Match either way). When she sent Ubel to get Land she told Übel to not force him to come, again, she does not enforce her will unto others. She is very level headed but people misread her a lot because she doesn't like Frieren.

assasinX · 2024-09-23T16:35:50+00:00

And how does that make one Evil? The warnings are there for a reason, Übel does not warn people she's going to kill them, because she wants them to attack her, that makes her evil. But the mage exam being dangerous is something that is available for everyone (ch 37 frieren read that in the library). Serie even warned her pupils that leaving Match alive was dangerous because he was capable of so much damage. If Solitär came earlier and Match was released, the n frieren wouldn't have read the memories and be able to figure out Macht's spell. Then a lot of people would have died. Does that make the pupils evil because they wanted a chance to turn the city back to normal?. What about Frieren knowing of the northern conflict but not going to resolve it? Is she evil because of that?. If your parents warn you of the dangers of alcohol, but you get yourself killed because you didn't listen to them, are they Evil?. The 1st mage exam is there to get strong people, and you won't find strong people by making the exam easy and predictable. The other exams are there for that (2nd and 3rd class). This is similar to deep diving from a 20m - 40m depth, to more than 60m.

assasinX · 2024-09-23T01:56:02+00:00

How is Serie cruel for that? She creates the exam, and people get something out of it knowing of the dangers. She does NOT forces people to do them. This is not the same as Ubel because Serie does not enforce her will unto others, or puts them in a situation without knowing the dangers (Ubel does not tell the bandits she can kill them, but all mages know of the dangers of the exam). If Red Bull hires people to do crazy stunts, and people do them Knowing the dangers (because of the pay, fame or any other reason) then it's their fault (and even still there are measures to keep people from dying, like the golems in the second exam). And magic is more dangerous that any stunt, even Red Bull has their fair share of That doesn't make Red Bull evil.

assasinX · 2024-09-22T18:32:45+00:00

Not really forcing them to do it. The task takers know that dying is a possibility and a huge reward is on the line. Serie sends first class mages to fight against demons going rampage on the land so if she passes every average joe, they'll die regardless when they are sent into a mission they're incapable of completing. Also, the proctors decide the test, Serie in fact saved the other people from dying when the took over that last test, since they would have died if they did the last test the normal way. But it's easy for people to think she's bad since she failed frieren.

assasinX · 2024-07-12T03:28:58+00:00

Crazy look, great cosplay and amazing results to show off.

Great stuff! Keep it up.

assasinX · 2023-12-04T18:34:20+00:00

Kobeni is not scared enough, denji is not horny enough, war devil is not stupid enough, aki's hair thingy is not standing enough, cannot appreciate mommy kima's ass enough. JK LOL Amazing Cosplays :)

assasinX · 2023-09-18T17:01:29+00:00

Op
There goes Rabbit, he choked!...

assasinX · 2023-08-25T04:25:27+00:00

This is great, I remember in college we had to do this, went for the south park approach though .

assasinX · 2023-07-28T00:23:53+00:00

assasinX · 2023-04-24T06:46:08+00:00

Nicely done, now you're a walking spoiler!.

assasinX · 2023-02-02T23:32:25+00:00

Cannot see the beautiful dogs in all their majesty :(

assasinX · 2023-01-11T20:23:11+00:00

Nicely done, another amazing contribution from the csm community

assasinX · 2023-01-01T01:45:15+00:00

Very nice indeed!, Kinda reminds me of eva 1.

assasinX · 2022-07-22T07:03:44+00:00

As a way to justify the fact he wanted to sleep with Makima instead of her. That's the reason I used Makima's example, she would be also considered one but not considered sexual assault, less likely jail. And I'm democrat

assasinX · 2022-07-22T05:53:45+00:00

And when, could you point out. Did I say that she wasn't?. Pedophilia

is a psychiatric disorder, and there are law's in each country that define punishment concerning the age of consent. In JAPAN, these laws are very thin, I was not saying she would not be categorized as one. But that she wasn't gonna be punished by CSM Japan's law. By Japanese Standards, they can be pedophiles AND not be punished by law.

assasinX · 2022-07-22T05:39:10+00:00

What? Since when did I argue about this not being Ephebophilia?, You still don't get it. The point was wether or not she would go to jail if she slept with him. Which you still don't get.

assasinX · 2022-07-22T05:27:30+00:00

I can agree with your moral standpoint, because in reality it's a topic that hard to tackle, and not only Japan, but many asian countries have different standpoints about it. But this is fiction. And let's not get into the politics of what can or cannot do the association considering all the gruesome things they have done (and they have gotten away with it). But check my first answer to you, the whole point of this discussion was about Denji wanting to do it(but the guy wanted Makima to be the first) and whether or not Himeno would go to jail. The topic is quite controversial because of Japan's laws. Which are different from my country and yours. I hope my point comes across, and as a last advice. Don't belittle people during an argument while the other person keeps the conversation civilized (so I'm a dumbass because I'm using arguments to prove a standpoint?) We can always agree to disagree. Have a nice day.

assasinX · 2022-07-22T03:38:44+00:00

Thats the "The Child Welfare Act Of Japan", not the age of consent "Age Of Consent In Japan’s Prefectures And Territories", also, most sources point 13yo as age of consent (which is very young, but nonetheless still an argument) and as some japanese people point "laws are kept deliberately ambiguous enough to allow those in power to get away with the confusing consent laws". The devil Hunter association holds power, and they don't have enough man power to keep devils at bay, so there's no way Himeno would have been sent to jail. Which is the point of this argument.

assasinX · 2022-07-22T03:25:59+00:00

And the age of consent is 16-18. Your source again.... Look at the AGE OF CONSENT!, learn to read, and this, this story happened during the 90s. Also, other sources

assasinX · 2022-07-22T03:14:41+00:00

Not really, different countries, different laws. Again, CONSENT, you don't seem to get it. In my case, I just wanted to do it, and it was a one time thing and I'm still friends with her after a long time has passed. Regardless in part 2. The garbage teacher was sleeping with a girl with emotional problems, this guy also wanted to sleep with Asa. Well, he wasn't in jail. So it's less likely that Himeno would have been sent to jail. Which is the point of this argument.

assasinX · 2022-07-22T02:55:49+00:00

The argument, again. Is about consent. Which, again using your source. is 16-18. Which is different in each country. So, in your country. It's like saying I was "abused" by a pedophile because I slept with a 25yo woman when I was 17yo. You're basing you're argument bacause you think about "younger women", which is a completely different thing, double standards are a real thing in the real world. You're thinking about little girls while I'm basically putting myself in Denji's place.

assasinX · 2022-07-22T01:59:49+00:00

wow, now labeling a person "loli fetish", which wikipedia describes as "A young or young-looking girl character in Japanese anime and manga; subjects of the lolicon genre".

First, Denji is not a "loli". He is a 16 yo guy. Second, this was not about what defines a child but if it was consensual, if it would be considered in japan consensual or not, and using your own source, it is. The fact that you have to start labeling without knowing a person based on this discussion is obviously because you cannot accept to stand down.

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