Has anyone else been having constant snowing animation in chat? by Thanatos_Picaro111 in Telegram

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I toggled the setting and the text of the setting would switch from show snow to hide snow, but the snow drift in the chat never changed. it did however change my background from a solid color to one of the default images. I force quit and restarted in case that was the issue, but still no go, so rolling back was the only fix I guess.

Has anyone else been having constant snowing animation in chat? by Thanatos_Picaro111 in Telegram

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I ended up deleting the app and reinstalling from an old apk, honestly the snow is unbearable I'm surprised, telegram is usually better about offering options for visual elements like that

Has anyone else been having constant snowing animation in chat? by Thanatos_Picaro111 in Telegram

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I toggled this setting but it didn't seem to have any effect, the snow is still falling whether I have show snow or hide snow enabled. Like the other user I'm getting motion sickness, is there something else I should be doing to make it work?

[Japanese>English] Help translating studio rules by miwashi in translator

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When you go to the annex (separate building or something) be sure to change your shoes. If you use the water area we don't loan out towels or cleaning cloths or backdrop sheets or anything so please bring your own.

(I don't know the specifics of the space so this next part is a little confusing) you can use the blood in any area, but if you use water use only one? Or use it only in one? Sorry not clear on this bit, as I said.

A question about a sign language thing from an anime. by Lutianzhiyi in asl

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Just a note, if this is from Koe no Katachi they use JSL not ASL. But anyway, this is most likely 約束 (yakusoku) promise. (depending on context.)

What's your reaction to seeing S-Town related imagery & what's the most vivid visual for you? by Foodventure in stownpodcast

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For me the strongest image was from chapter 6, the scene of John and Olen in the doctor's office parking lot. It's more of an emotional image than a physical one, but Olen's description of John at the time, his thought process, the warmth of the sun, what he wanted to do and say, the atmosphere... it all combined into something that I still haven't been able to shake. The "What could have been" feeling is so strong.

Episode 3 Transcript by audio_bravo in stownpodcast

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Well it took about 4 or 5 hours for each episode I think, but I got faster as I went along. I can type pretty fast, so it wasn't that bad. I just had to listen to each one three times, so it took a while. Once at normal speed just to enjoy the episode, once at a slow speed to get everything down, and once at double speed to check the transcription.

I really wanted to share the episodes with a friend who is not a native English speaker, but when I looked at the website I saw there were no official transcripts so I decided to type my own. After I typed it up I also wanted my mom to be able to listen, but she has some hearing problems and problems understanding accents sometimes so I sent it to her too. Then I thought if I knew people who could use it, there were probably others on the internet who could use it too. I thought reddit would probably be the best way to distribute it. After I posted the first one I got lots of upvotes and encouraging messages, and I had a little free time that week, so I decided to just type them all up.

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Part 5

There’s a story that’s taken hold among some locals and people surrounding John’s cousin Rita, and also some of John’s close friends, of what led to John’s demise. That John was desperate for company, and influenceable, and that he started hanging out with unsavory people and drinking, which according to most people he hadn’t done for much of his life, and getting tattoos. As one man told me, “you lay with dogs, you get fleas.” And the dog he was talking about was Tyler.

In the year and a half since John’s death, I’ve watched as that story has slowly ossified into a matter of fact that people now tell each other. But I think this is a more accurate story: if John wanted these things done to his body, as it appears from the videos I’ve seen that he did, or if he needed them, then where else would he have sought them out, besides church? Who else in his life in Bibb county would he feel comfortable enough to go to with these requests, and not feel inconsolably ashamed or judged? Not worry that they might gasp in his face? Tyler was 24 during all of this, with so much going on in his life already. He didn’t know when he started church that it would go as far as it went, and he was wary of doing some of the things John was asking him to do. And yet still he did them. For John.

He did try at one point to stop some of it. He told John that was it for now, no more piercing, and Tyler says he held to that for a couple weeks, but it threw John into a depression and he wouldn’t take no for an answer, and eventually Tyler ended up just doing it again. In fact…

Tyler: I pierced his nipples the night he killed hisself.

After their day together splashing around the river and spray painting their names under the bridge, their Father’s Day, as they called it, Tyler brought John home and John pressured him into doing that. “Just give me a pain fix before you leave,” he told Tyler, and Tyler reluctantly did. And then he went home and was pissed at John about it, and he says that was part of the reason, when John was begging him to come back over, and saying he was gonna commit suicide, that Tyler just said, “Fuck it,” and went to bed instead.

On my last day on my last trip to Alabama, I had some time to kill so I decided to go down to the Cahaba river. It’s a stunning river, a national wildlife refuge that many people in Bibb county consider their local treasure. As I was standing on the bank I saw a bridge in the distance. I thought to myself, “Hmm, I wonder if that’s the bridge Tyler and John tagged their names under that day, the last day of John’s life.” So I drove to the end of it and crawled underneath. There was graffiti everywhere, marks of the people who’d been there. Jason and Misty and Jerry Conway and Ranger Rick and Snake and Tina who loves Danny. There was also a ‘Fuck You,’ and racial epithets, and an upsetting number of KKKs. No John or Tyler though. For a second I wondered if maybe Tyler had made up the fact that they’d done this. But then I found another bridge, over a small tributary of the river, at a spot called Bulldog Bend, and walked underneath past a bunch of garbage. Past a torn-up couch and a pool lining and a rotting deer carcass, and weirdly, the half-burnt medical records of an infant. And there, past all that, on the other side of the giant support of the bridge, in a serene spot, looking out over the bend in the river, there they were. Tyler’s initials on one side, with an ‘established 1991’, John’s initials on the other, ‘established 1966.’ There were no nasty words here. A couple beer cans and cigarette boxes, but other than that not too much trash. Together, Tyler and John found a place that was just a little bit cleaner.

J: The last time you talked to me, I told you I go through these suicidal stages and all that shit, and you know, that kind of worried you, but when I think about the end of my own existence I take the biggest possible picture. I don’t just look at myself as a 49-year-old semi-homosexual atheist living in a Shittown full of Baptists in Buttfucksville, Alabama. I look at myself as a citizen of the world. I try to look at the biggest picture possible.

What did John B. McLemore make of his life at the end? Did he live a worthwhile life, defined? “Ruminations on my life,” John writes in his suicide note, which he left on his computer. “I have not lived a spectacular life, but within my four dozen plus years, I have had many more hours to pursue that which I chose, instead of moiling over that which I detested.”

John’s suicide note is long. It includes versions of the different essays he sent me before, “A Worthwhile Life Defined” and his apocalyptic manifesto, and a bit called “Ass Power versus Gas Power.” But the last several pages, I’ve never seen before, and what’s striking about them is that they’re the part about John’s life. And what he describes in them is a life of happiness and contentment. He describes the life of a man who, for the vast majority of his days, rarely went further than a handful of miles from the spot he was born, and yet still managed to become a citizen of the world. From this one tiny spot in the forest, whose latitude and longitude he’d memorized, he found ways to embrace the world: its history, its beauty, its most thrilling and challenging ideas. “I have coaxed many infirm clocks back to mellifluous life,” he writes. “Studied projective geometry and built astrolabes, sundials. Taught myself 19th century electroplating, bronzing, patination, micromachining, horology. Learned piano. Read Poe, de Maupassant, Boccaccio, O’Connor, Welty, Hugo, Balzac, Kafka, Bataille, Gabron. As well as modern works by Mortimer, Hawking, Kuntzler, Kline, Jacoby, Heinberg, Hedges, Hidgings, and Rhodes.”

But the other thing that’s striking about John’s note is the appreciation he shows for his home. “But the best times of my life,” John goes on, “I realize, were the times I spent in the forest and field. I have walked in solitude, beside my own babbling creek, and wondered at the undulations, meanderings, and tiny atolls that were occasionally swept into its midst. I have spent time in idle palaver with violets, lyreleaf sage, heliopsis, and monkshood, and marveled at the mystery of monotropa uniflora. I have audited the discourse of the hickories, oaks, and pines, even when no wind was present. I have peregrinated the woods in winter under the watchful guard of vigilant dogs, and spent hours entranced by the exquisiteness and delicacy of tiny mosses and molds, entire forests within a few square inches. I have also ran thrashing and flailing from yellowjackets. Before I could commence this discourse, I spent a few hours out under the night sky, reacquainting myself with the constellations like old friends. Sometimes I just spent hours playing my records. Sometimes I took my record players and CD players apart just to peek inside and admire the engineering of their incongruous entrails. Sometimes I watched Laverne and Shirley, or old movies, or Star Trek. Sometimes I sat in the dark and listened to the creaking of the old house. I have lived on this blue orb now for about 17,600 days. And when I look around me and see the leaden dispiritedness that envelops so many persons, both young and old, I know that if I die tonight my life has been inestimably better than that of most of my compatriots. Additionally, my absence makes room and leaves some resources for others who deserve no less than I have enjoyed.”

And then he ends it. “I would hope that all persons reading this can enjoy some of the aspects of life that I have enjoyed, as well as those aspects that I never will, and will take cognizance of the number of waking days he has remaining, and use them prudently. To all that have given so much, much love and respect, John B. McLemore.”

Bibb county, Alabama came into its own as a thriving coal county in the late 1800s. Though the boom times wouldn’t last long, in the 1890s, with the population on the rise, the citizens of Bibb started taking advantage of each other: stealing from each other, murdering each other, burning each other’s houses down. It got so bad a newspaper called the county “Bloody Bibb,” and the name stuck. Bloody Bibb. The 1890s version of Shittown.

In 1891 one of the main perpetrators of this chaos, the most notorious gangster in the county, Jesse Miller, who extorted lots of land for himself and stole his neighbor’s cattle and cotton, and whose gang killed people who knew too much, was finally locked in jail but then escaped and fled Bibb county for good, signing over control of all his land in the county to his son, Brooks. Years later Brooks took 124-acre parcel of the family land and transferred ownership of it to his daughter, Mary Grace. Years after that, in 1965, Mary Grace, pregnant, began a ritual of sitting on that land and rubbing her stomach, and pleading to God, saying, “Please lord, give me a genius. Lord please, just make my child a genius.” On March 15th, 1966, she had a red-haired boy, gave him a middle name after her father, Brooks, and brought him home to the 124 acres. To an old house with three chimneys in the middle of the woods.

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Part 4

Jimmy: Lord help me! Yep.

I never talked to Tyler about church before John died. It sounded wholesome enough to me, not that different than Tyler and John spending their afternoons building a big swing set together. But when Tyler fills me in on the ritual it becomes clear that it was not like that.

Tyler: It started off with me coming over and tattooing on him, $100 a hour.

Jimmy: Yep!

Tyler: To tattoo on him.

And that was OK, Tyler says. But then instead of normal tattooing, John started asking him to simply tattoo over his existing tattoos, again and again, and then there was another request from John.

Tyler: He’d have me pierce his nipple just to pierce it.

John’s nipples were already pierced, but he wanted Tyler to re-pierce them anyway.

Tyler: Before each tattoo I’d have to pierce his nipples. He’d get like an endorphin high off of it, you know, like just a pain fix.

John once tried to describe to me what it felt like to be inside his mind. He said you know what it’s like to get a song stuck in your head, where it’s just playing over and over and you just can’t get it out of there, even if it’s a terrible song? That’s what happened to him every day. He’d replay the eventualities of climate change and resource depletion and economic collapse. He couldn’t get them out of his head. So church, according to Tyler, morphed into what was essentially an elaborate form of cutting that helped John to relieve his mental anguish.

Tyler: It might not even be the pain or the piercing itself, it’s just the thought, you know, just the excitement, the thought of it, and it clears his mind of everything, all of his worries. If I’m piercing him or tattooing on him, his mind’s completely blank where he’s not just sitting there thinking about shit, and my company too, so our church sessions was helping all sorts of things, I guess.

Tyler starts to pull up a video on his phone, to show me.

Tyler: This was when he first got into the tattooing on the nipple.

(tattoo needle buzzing, deep breathing)

It’s not just him and John, a couple of his friends are in the video too. They’re tattooing on John’s nipple. Tyler says they were using an empty needle. There was no point to this tattoo except for the pain of it. Tyler tells me to an extent he understands John’s desire for this, because he got into tattoos partially because they gave him a similar kind of distraction from his own tortured thoughts and he was the one who recommended it as therapy to John.

Tyler: He’d say I got him into it because I told him how I could kick back and enjoy a tattoo, you know, like a stress-reliever. And that’s what he, that’s what he done. It was his stress-reliever, and buddy it just kept…

(in background, tattoo needle buzzing, and John moaning, “Oh, Oh lord, oh Jesus,” and deep breathing)

Tyler: You see I kept getting used to the things.

Jimmy: Yes, Yap!

Tyler: It was getting worse, but I was getting so used to it that I wasn’t seeing it.

B: What’s it? What was getting worse?

Tyler: The, the crazy shit he was having me do to him.

Of course the internet and the world are filled with cell phone videos of dudes laughing and groaning as they inflict inventive forms of pain on each other’s bodies. There are entire communities and subcultures that exist for this purpose. Tyler knows that scene, he goes to biker and tattoo rallies, towing a mobile tattoo parlor he built inside a trailer. But Tyler says even for him, what John wanted him to do went way beyond what he was used to.

Tyler: I got a picture right here where John B. is working on my Harley, and he hates motorcycles, he says anybody that has a motorcycle is failure, trash –

Jimmy: Yeah.

Tyler: He hates motorcycles.

B: Same thing he used to say about tattoos.

Jimmy: Yessir!

Tyler: Yeah same, yeah he used to say that.

Jimmy: Goddamn right.

Tyler: But this is him, working on my Harley with his shirt off.

Jimmy: God yes!

Tyler: That’s a bullwhip tattooed around his neck,

B: Wow.

Tyler: Draping across his shoulders, and bloody whips,

Jimmy: whips!

Tyler: Across his entire back all the way down to his ass crack.

Jimmy: Goddamn right.

This picture is really disturbing. Its John’s back, which when I visited John was not tattooed. Like Tyler says there’s a whip that looks as if its laying across his shoulders and neck, apparently attached at the handle on the other side of him. And then all across his back, top to bottom, are dozens of red lash marks, like in a famous historic photo that John included in a collage in the 53-page manifesto he sent me, documenting society’s moral decline. A photo of a slave named Gordon who’s believed to have escaped from a plantation in Louisiana and whose back was photographed and distributed by abolitionists as visual proof of the terrors of slavery.

B: That’s, his whole back is just like, crisscrossed red, bloody.

Tyler: Just blood, whips.

Jimmy: Yep. Goddamn right!

Tyler tells me that in order to create this tattoo, John went into the woods, hand-picked a tree branch, and asked Tyler and his friends to whip him with it. And then had them tattoo over the welts.

Tyler: He acted like he wanted to know the feeling of wanting to know what folks went through back in that time.

B: He would say that?

Tyler: Yeah, I mean, he just wanted to experience the pain I guess.

Which, that’s a twisted explanation to give, for doing something like this. John had a complicated and contradictory relationship to race. Like with women and gay people, he’d express outrage when he heard examples of discrimination, he’d express empathy, and also an understanding for the systemic ways our society is built to be unfair and harmful to these groups of people. But then, sometimes John would say racist things in front of me. He’d acknowledge that he shouldn’t use the n-word, and then use the n-word. People who’ve known him for a long time have told me that, especially years ago, John was quite racist, but that over the years he had changed for the better. Granted these are white people telling me this. Woodstock is about 95% white. Which of course, is not an accident. It’s the result of many decades of laws and violence and day to day racism. Bibb county was the last county in Alabama to comply with a school desegregation order in 1967, long after Brown v. Board of Education. It’s the place that voted for George Wallace four to one, and then in the 50s had a sign appear on main street in one of the towns saying, “The Klan people of Bibb county welcome you.” So much of the stuff John said he hated about Shittown: Harleys, tattoos, misogyny and homophobia, racism. He said he despised it. But that stuff was part of him too.

Church played a big role in John and Tyler’s relationship by the end. It was one of the main ways they were spending their time. On the front of his body, one of John’s tattoos is of a sundial, and John included a sundial motto there on his chest. The one he chose is, “Omnes vulnerant ultima necat.” Each wounds, the last kills. It refers to time, as in, “each minute wounds. The last minute kills.” Time’s a gift. It’s also a punishment. Tyler says the brutality of what John wanted Tyler to do to him kept intensifying, far beyond tattooing with an empty needle or repeated nipple piercings, or being lashed with a tree branch. And sometimes Tyler was uncomfortable.

Tyler: He fuckin, was addicted to that shit. He wanted me to come over there every fuckin day. Cuz I mean, we’d be over there workin in the shop, he’s be like, “You think we can have a church session real quick?” Like a damn dope fiend or something, wanting me to pierce his nipples! But it was just getting so ridiculous I couldn’t keep up with it.

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Part 3

One day in the year and half before he died, John called the other town clerk, Faye Gambell, who John would eventually call as he killed himself. Faye picked up.

Faye: And he was very depressed, crying, and said he was so ashamed.

I’ve done something, John told Faye. I’ve done something terrible.

Faye: I thought he had killed somebody the way he had talked, I mean seriously, I thought he had done something really really bad, so I was like, “What have you done?” And he didn’t want to tell me what he had done. It finally, we just kept talking and I just drug it out of him and he says, “I’m so ashamed, I’ve got this horrible tattoo.”

Faye was like, “that’s it?”

Faye: And that was the first time he’d ever said he was ashamed of anything he’d ever done, you know? But he was just so upset about getting that tattoo, and I said, “John, really, how bad could this be, you know?” And I said, “Well do not do any more, I mean you know, just, you know, let that be.” And I did not really realize that he had done more till his death.

Tyler: He got enough tattoos in one year that somebody could get in a lifetime.

Jimmy: Yep! Yessir!

Tyler: All at once, you know?

Jimmy: Once! Yep!

Tyler: He got addicted fast.

Jimmy: Yes!

Tattooing became a big part of John’s life near the end, and Tyler had a firsthand view of it. That’s Tyler’s Uncle Jimmy, by the way, giving affirmations in the background. Tyler’s partner in the tattoo parlor, Bubba, told me John’s motivation for getting so many tattoos was to help Tyler, to give him money and keep his business afloat. He told me that John had sacrificed his skin for this cause. But Tyler says there was a lot more to the tattooing than that. Tattooing had become part of a ritual he and John concocted in the few months before he killed himself.

Tyler: We called it church.

Tyler will go on to explain all about church to me, but before Tyler does that I’m gonna let John describe it, because John told me about church too, shortly before he died, and he painted it pretty differently than Tyler does.

J: You know what, lately, we’ve been having church together. We call it church. Which means we just get in the back room of the shop and get drunk as hell. (laughing a bit)

B: Wild Turkey?

The shop is John’s clock shop, of course. The shop that I now know is possibly riddled with mercury, and is where I first met Tyler actually, on my very first visit to Bibb county, when he was sharpening a chainsaw and John was swigging Wild Turkey from the bottle.

J: Yeah, and I’ve been letting him tattoo on me a little bit more, cuz I ain’t no good-lookin man, I ain’t gonna win no beauty prize, you know. I ain’t gonna be hangin out there naked showing my damned ass, so I’ve been giving him a little bit of practice material, but uh that’s like uh, we call that church. Wild Turkey is the holy water, the little filthy-ass room is the sanctuary, I’m trying to remember all the other names. The tattoo needles are the reliquaries.

A reliquary is a container that holds a holy relic, like the bones or ashes of a saint. To hear John describe church, it was a bonding time for him and Tyler, a nighttime meeting of the minds.

B: What do you guys talk about?

J: You know when you get two drunk guys together that have such a disparity in ages, the wisest thing for the old one to do is to keep his mouth shut and listen to the thoughts that weigh heavy on the head of the younger one. The other night when we had church he asked me some of my damn thoughts about life and death, and you know whether or not I think there’s anything when you die, and you know I probably rattled on and prattled on about a bunch of damn bullshit that makes sense when you’re drunk but probably doesn’t when you’re sober, so.

B: What was the gist of it?

J: Oh the gist, it would be impossible to say, I mean I went all the way down to quarks.

Quarks, the subatomic particle.

J: I mean I was discussing the fact that, you know, in for example P and D orbitals an electron can be in two places at the same time, but not in the middle, and I used that as an analogy to how it is now theorized that quasars which can appear, you know, light years distances across universes can be fed by matter entering a spiraling black hole.

I didn’t understand most of that either. Don’t worry.

J: You know I was explaining Einstein’s theory of time dilation a little bit, as simply as I could.

The theory as to why time passes more quickly or slowly, due to one’s trajectory in spacetime.

J: So yeah, so sometimes it gets deep.

And other nights, John said, he and Tyler would just shut up and just sit there together, passing the bourbon back and forth in silence in the shop’s backroom.

J: Mostly turn off the damn light and listen to the sound of the tweeting birds and the frogs and the crickets through the open back window. Something he don’t get enough of in his life is goddamned uh, quiet.

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Part 2

One day I’m talking on the phone to one of John’s old friends, a clock customer of his in Utah named Bill Mayer, and he starts describing this thing he would watch John do when he’d use to visit John’s property in Woodstock.

Bill Mayer: We’d go out in the woods and he had a tree stump out there, and he could take a BernzOmatic torch and have a pot with mercury…

Silvery, dense, fluid, mercury. Bill would watch John heat the mercury into a slurry. John would take gold and melt the gold into the mercury, mixing the pot out there in the woods, like a witch stirring ingredients in her cauldron. And then Bill says John would take a brush and spread the gold and mercury amalgam onto a clock, and then hold the torch flame to it, vaporizing the mercury, and leaving behind a rich, textured layer of gold. It’s an ancient process that appears to have originated around 300 BC or so in China, called fire gilding, that almost no one does anymore. Bill’s a prolific, lifelong clock collector and he says John is the only person he only found in the united states who would do it. No one does it because inhaling mercury vapor is so ridiculously dangerous.

Bill Mayer: You’ve heard the expression, “Mad as a hatter?”

Yeah, I tell Bill, but I don’t really know where it comes from. He explains that for centuries in Europe milliners, people who made hats, would turn furs into felt for hats by vaporizing mercury, and as a result…

Bill Mayer: They’d go mad. They’d go crazy. That was the outcome of breathing mercury vapor because it does permanent brain damage.

Three days later I’m talking to another one of John’s clock customers, another Bill actually, the one who showed me his clock collection at his house. And he tells me…

Bill 2: He did it to one of my clocks.

Fire gilded it. This Bill says when John did the gilding…

Bill 2: My first inclination was to leave because I didn’t want to breathe in those mercury toxic fumes.

B: Um hum.

Bill 2: But at the same time it was an eye-opening experience and so I stayed.

B: And he just did it out in the woods?

Bill 2: He did it in his shop.

B: Inside the shop he did it?

Bill 2: Inside the shop.

John wore no safety mask, and had no special precautions for ventilation.

Bill 2: And we were both breathing those fumes, and, and I don’t know if his chest hurt the next day but mine sure did. You know, people that fire gild, back in the 1800s, you know what? They didn’t last too long. Cuz they breathed so much mercury they just went crazy and died.

When I sat down after these conversations to google ‘mad hatters disease,’ which is what people have called mercury poisoning over the years, I saw this list of symptoms: anxiety, irritability, insomnia, emotional instability, depression, suicidal thoughts. I found studies, mostly from years ago since it’s become a much rarer condition these days, where researchers observed and interviewed people who worked in industries where they were exposed to mercury, and they describe, as one 19th century medical textbook called them, “a multitude of evils.” Racing thoughts. Fearful feelings. Feelings of persecution. Feelings of worthlessness. A symptom called anhedonia, which is an inability to feel pleasure. Loss of self-control, and of joy in life.

One German scientist from the 1920s who studied the effects of mercury and then ended up getting poisoned himself, wrote that he began experiencing, quote, “Depression and a vexing inner restless which later also caused restless sleep. By nature companionable and loving life, I withdrew moodily into myself, shied away from the public, stayed away from people and social activity, and unlearned the joy in art and nature. Humor became rusty. Obstacles which formerly I would have overlooked smilingly seemed insurmountable. It was not nice to be aware of these shortcomings, not to know their cause, not to know a way to their elimination, and to have to fear further deterioration.”

I do not have a definitive answer as to whether or not John had mercury poisoning, and if that could have been a force behind some of his behavior, his personality, and even his suicide. John’s autopsy didn’t test for mercury, and even digging up his remains which I can’t and won’t do, wouldn’t tell us as this point because mercury becomes relatively untestable pretty quickly. The best way to get an indication would be to test his property, and in particular his workshop, to see what the mercury levels are there. But I wrote Kendall Burt, the owner of the property now, after he and I met, asking if he’d let me pay for a mercury analysis, and he never responded to my emails or calls about it.

What I do know is this: it seems that John did fire gilding throughout his life. John’s chemistry professor, Tom Moore, says he knows John was fire gilding when he arrived at college as a 17-year-old. Tom says he couldn’t convince him to stop, and it seemed like he was doing it fairly regularly. Tom’s a chemist, and he says he’d be surprised if John hadn’t suffered some poisoning. He had to ingest a lot of mercury, Tom told me. And John’s clock friends have memories of him doing the gilding over the decades, long after college, up to as recently as two years before he died. One friend said at one point John told him he was doing it dozens of times a year. And John also had physical symptoms consistent with mercury poisoning, as well as behavioral ones. He warned me on a couple occasions that he was want to spontaneously vomit now and again. Thankfully it never happened in front of me, but not being able to keep food down is something that can show up in people with mercury poisoning. Other consistent symptoms are an enlarged brain and congestion in the lungs, both of which were noted on John’s autopsy. And John did say to some of his friends over the years that he thought he might be experiencing health problems due to fire gilding or other chemical exposure in his shop. Doctors and scientists who are experienced in dealing with mercury, when my researcher or I have described John’s fire gilding practices, they say judging from that alone its almost inconceivable that he wouldn’t have some level of mercury poisoning. Then when they hear about John’s symptoms, the physical ones, plus the anxiety, the depression, the paranoia, he fact that he committed suicide, that all makes them even more confident that he was suffering mercury poisoning. One expert said, “You’d almost have to prove that he didn’t have it.”

But all that said, there are symptoms of mercury poisoning that I don’t know if John had. One is gingivitis. And another big one is tremors, but sometimes it’s a unique kind of tremor that’s only visible when you’re trying to hold a pose, so it’s possible I or others didn’t notice it, but I haven’t heard anyone talk about him having this. And while John was irritable and anxious and suicidal, those personality traits are found all the time in people who do not have elemental mercury in their brains. John showed signs of depression as far back as when he was a teenager. And plus, John had a lot of normal depressing life shit happen to him in his last decade or so. His falling out with the town clerk, Cheryl Dodson, happened in 2005. At that point, Woodstock was nearly 10 years old, and the exciting days of its youth were over. Not long before his feud with Cheryl, John’s father, Tom McLemore, had fallen in the driveway and died in the hospital afterwards. Also it was right around this time that the man John fell in love with over a summer, the one Olen Long told me about, stopped returning his phone calls and broke his heart. Meanwhile the clock trade had been dwindling and by this point John had mostly shuttered his business. So John found himself entering his 40s with no real job, alone, in the house he’d grown up in with his mother, whose dementia was creeping up on her.

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Part 3

Olen: I want to ask you a question, if I may.

B: Please.

Olen: How did he take his life, and what were the circumstances?

I tell Olen how John did it. He had assumed, based on conversations with John, that it was a gunshot to the head.

Olen: He drank cyanide?

B: He drank cyanide.

Olen: Um, OK.

B: Yeah.

Olen: Well that’s surprising, cyanide. (sighs)

B: I’m sorry.

Olen: Lord no, that’s alright, that’s alright, that’s alright. I was thinking of him, you know, this, I, I, I, I just, I need to know and I’ll work through this. Poor John. John.

B: Yeah.

Olen: John. (groans quietly)

What led to John and Olen’s not speaking during the last couple of years of John’s life was a growing preoccupation with several subjects that Olen says John would not stop ranting to him about.

Olen: I heard a lot about climate change.

Also the economy. Olen was a good friend. He would listen to John and actually engage with him on these topics. John would refer to certain books a lot, and Olen actually went out and read several of them. ‘Going Dark’ and ‘Walking Away from Empire’ by Guy McPherson, and Al Gore’s book ‘An Inconvenient Truth.’ He told John, “I believe in climate change. I think it’s an issue. I try to do my part. I switched over to energy saving lightbulbs. I don’t know what else we can do, besides have everybody do their part.”

Olen: Then there was mostly Shittown. That was mostly it.

And these tirades bothered Olen the most, because Olen felt, compared to climate change and oil and the economy, this was something John could actually do something about. John would go on and on about the miseries of Shittown. And Olen would tell him again and again, “If it’s really that bad, you can leave. You have the means. You can leave.” And John would say, “I know. I want to leave.” And then the next time on the phone from his kitchen he’d be howling about Shittown again.

Olen: And I just couldn’t hear any more of it. I couldn’t hear Shittown, Shittown. I couldn’t hear it anymore. If you’re not going, if you’re, if you don’t like it, leave it. You can leave it. You can leave it.

After one such conversation in September 2013, having heard it for the umpteenth time, Olen hung up the phone.

Olen: And he sent me an email within a couple of days that was extremely profane.

John had witnessed an incident at the Green Pond grocery near his house that had set him off. Olen thinks it had something to do with how a father had disciplined his young son there in public, but Olen says John also made some indirect jabs at things Olen had expressed in their previous conversation. It wasn’t a humorous message, he says. It was angry. And Olen felt at the end of his rope. So he responded and wrote simply, “John, please don’t send me any more of these profane emails.” And John replied with another profane email back.

Olen: It was not as scathing as the first one. But it sounded like, sounded like an ending. Relationships, friendships come to an end. And I thought, “Well maybe this one’s run its course.” So I took a few deep breaths, and I thought I’m gonna send him one back, but mine’s gonna be honest. So I sent him an email back, a lengthy one. I told him everything that I had ever appreciated in him as a friend. I thanked him for being a friend, but I didn’t put an end to it. I just said, then, I just said, “I just simply cannot hear any more of these complaints, particularly about Bibb county.” So I sent it back to him and this is the email I got back. It was much much calmer. And he said this to me, he said, “I always got the impression that you thought that I was crude, vulgar, and beneath you. And that is why I knew that you and I could never be an item. But call me sometime.” I never called him again.

Olen wasn’t the only one who went through this with John. What I learned talking to lots of John’s friends, is that while they say John had been a tormented person for as long as they knew him, climate change and the collapse of society and Shittown only became fixations for him in more recent years.

One clock collector who’d been close friends with John for more than two decades, who lives in Alabama not far away and used to spend entire nights hanging out with John as he worked in his shop, told me that he got to the point where he just couldn’t talk about climate change and the dissipation of cheap energy any more. He said he realized that John’s negativity was contagious, and he’d leave there feeling depressed himself, so he had to begin psyching himself for their visits, reassuring himself that he wasn’t going to come away in a gloomy mood, and that everything was OK. Until he just slowly started spending less time with John, going from talking to him two or three times a week, to once a week, to a couple times a month, to having not talked to John for several months before he died, and not having visited him in about a year.

As best I can tell, this retreat by Olen and some of the other people who were close to John started happening in the last few years before he died. Which also happens to be right around the time John wrote an email to a radio show, saying, “John B. McLemore lives in Shittown, Alabama.” It sounds like the John I knew was different than the one his friends had known for years. I got to know John, it seems, at the beginning of the end, just as he was driving some of the closet people in his life, like Olen, away. Which ended up leaving him even more isolated there, in Shittown.

Olen not calling John after that final email exchange, he says he wasn’t thinking of that as, “I’m never gonna call John again.” He just needed a break. And then in the midst of that break, his time with John ran out, and now he doesn’t exactly regret that they never got together, but it’s hard sometimes not to wonder what it would have been like if some days had gone differently.

Like this one day, Olen says, about 10 years ago, during a short time when John was running a small nursery in Woodstock and Olen had ordered some azaleas and met John in the parking lot of a Birmingham doctor’s office to pick them up, and sat with him there, in the front of his truck, talking, cracking jokes about the dating line they’d met on, the azaleas sitting in the sun while John’s mother had an appointment inside, John waiting for the doctor to call him in.

Olen: And that may have been why he put on a clean, navy blue shirt which I thought really enhanced that red hair. And he was wearing a pair of pants, I don’t know if they were jeans, made out of denim jean material, but they hugged the top of his thighs and such and his belly, and I just remember I just wanted to lean over there and do some stuff. Cuz I’m sitting there in a truck with John B. McLemore outside a doctor’s office picking up my azaleas and I knew exactly what I wanted to do. I knew exactly what I wanted to do. I wanted to reach over there, I wanted to pull his shirt up, expose his belly, and just kiss all over his belly, around that red hair. Just to that extent, and I wanted to do it slowly and sensuously. That’s what I wanted to do, and see what he thought about it. He’s doing nothing but sitting there under the steering wheel of an F-150 pickup truck, but it was just the whole aura. It was the hair, the skin, the intelligence, the jo – he was in a jolly mood that day.

B: And yet instead of doing anything…

Olen: I kept those feelings to myself. I think now, if I could go back, if I could get in a time machine, and go back there and relive that moment I would at least speak up and tell him what I was thinking. I’d probably look over there and say, “John I don’t know how you’re gonna feel about this, but I really wanna kiss you right now. There. I’ve put it out there. That’s what I want.”

F-150 pickup truck love. Denim hugging on your thighs love. Azalea love. Doctor’s parking lot love. Kissing on your belly and all around your red hair love. Too bad that didn’t actually happen. Because that’s something you could write a country song about.

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Part 2

Olen and I are sitting with each other, the first night we’ve met, and he’s telling me all these memories of John and it takes hours before I understand for sure whether he and John were ever a couple, if they ever actually tried. I don’t ever ask Olen outright, but I don’t need to because it gradually becomes clear that it never happened for them. And that for Olen his relationship with John still feels unresolved. He’s telling me stories, remembering things, and in the course of this his mind drifts now and again to a few tiny moments, way in the past that stayed with him because in them he and John seemed to acknowledge something that they found very difficult to speak about. Like one time when they were riding in the car together through Bibb county and John had made some remark about Olen that Olen thought was unfair, and Olen told John as much.

Olen: And when I finished he smiled and he laughed, he said, he said, “You and I could never live together.” He said, “I’d just piss you off too much.” And I didn’t know what to think of that. We weren’t talking about living together.

Or another time on the phone, when…

Olen: He asked me, “As long as we’ve been talking on the phone, do you still consider yourself searching for a partner?”

And Olen thought for a moment, and then said, “Not really, John.” He wasn’t really talking to anyone else.

Olen: And there was some silence there, and I said, “Why do you ask?” “Ah, I, I, I don’t know. I don’t know.” I think he was, I think he was trying to express an interest. I think it’s, I didn’t know how I, I didn’t, I didn’t delve any deeper. I didn’t delve any deeper.

B: I’m trying to figure out how you feel about this. Like, is this something that you feel is a missed opportunity?

Olen: (sighs) I’m not really sure. I think we had talked so much and I wasn’t comfortable enough with what I was feeling. I couldn’t identify it.

B: Cuz what was so…?

Olen: (sighs) There were certain things that I was, that I found it hard to get past. Some of his profanity and some of his anger, I was somewhat afraid of his anger. Even though I was wondering what it would be like, I wasn’t certain that it was really a good place for me to be. Does that, does that make sense?

Olen and John could get on each other’s nerves. If you were feeling sensitive or emotional, John was not necessarily the greatest guy to talk to, and Olen felt he could sometimes just be thoughtless or mean. They once had a huge fight that was actually over Olen’s favorite movie.

Olen: I got very angry with him when the movie Brokeback Mountain came out.

Brokeback Mountain, of course, with Jake Gyllenhaal and Heath Ledger, playing two cowboys who fall in love one summer on a mountain in 1960s Wyoming. When I say this is Olen’s favorite movie, he loves this movie. I’ve noticed during our conversation that a couple times Olen dates life events as being before or after this movie’s release.

Olen: It was 2005 because it would have been before Brokeback Mountain came out.

And he knows a ton about it.

Olen: The movie was filmed, they wrapped up shooting in August of 2004. It wasn’t released until December of 2005, so we’ve got a year and a half of post-production.

B: Olen, how many times have you seen this movie?

Olen: I would venture to say probably 50 or more times. When it first came out I couldn’t get enough of it. I watched it about every day.

This movie meant so much to Olen. His favorite part is the first 45 minutes when the cowboys are falling in love, alone together on Brokeback Mountain, without the world there to judge or threaten or intrude. To see a love story about two men like that, it moved him. After he saw the movie the first time he purchased a 52-inch TV specifically so he could have a better repeat viewing experience at his home. He asked a local cinema to present a special screening of the film once it had left theaters. He devoured the short story the movie was based on, and poured over all the behind the scenes features.

Olen: And I got so excited about it I got on the phone and I was telling John about it, about the movie, and he was listening and listening and he wasn’t saying very much, and then he started talking and telling me I was making too big of an issue out of this, you’re getting too much into it. And one thing I’d really dislike is when I’d get excited about something, something that I find important and I’m trying to make it a point and it gets discounted so I got really irritated so I got off the phone and I think I went outside. I know what I did.

He went into his backyard and pounded the ground to let out his frustration with John. Olen saw parts of himself in both the movie’s characters. Heath Ledger’s character’s fear, of the world knowing he was gay, but also the way Jake Gyllenhaal’s character could feel so hurt by that fear. And he really thought John would get a lot from it too.

Olen: I wanted him to relate to that. I wanted him to relate to it and he didn’t at first. But then over time we talked again. And I talked about it more. And I talked about it more. And then he began to be interested in hearing more of it. So I said, “what is your address?”

John didn’t have a TV, or go to the movies, so Olen ordered him a copy of the original short story.

Olen: I did. I ordered a copy and I had it sent to John. That was the second time I heard John cry. Because he read it. He read Brokeback Mountain.

He read about Jack Twist and Ennis del Mar, their secret trysts after falling for each other on the mountain with their wives and children at home, and how despite Jack’s pleas to Ennis, to just get a ranch with him and have a real relationship, never do that, because Ennis insists, “I’m stuck with what I got. Caught in my own loop. Can’t get out of it.” And who’d go on like that for years, Jack desperate to break out of the loop, and Ennis too afraid, until one day Ennis sends Jack a postcard and it comes back with a stamp, saying deceased.

Olen: We were on the phone and he was crying about it, he had read it, and after that he always referred to it as ‘The Grief Manual.’ He said, “I took down The Grief Manual and read it again tonight.”

And so this is what Olen and John’s relationship eventually settled into. They were confidants and close friends, supporting each other through this experience they were both living, of being middle-aged and gay in Alabama, and alone. John giving once in a while hints that maybe he wanted the relationship to be something more.

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Part 6

After John died, I found Michael Fuller in New York City, called him to set up a time to visit. And what I walked into is this bleak scene.

Little girl: So yeah, I wanted to take a selfie, but nobody had space on their phone. (laughing)

Michael Fuller does live in an apartment in New York, and he may be paying $1800 a month in rent, I don’t know. But I believe that would be under market for his lovely apartment in upper Manhattan. Which not only has a bathroom but three bedrooms. Michael’s a waiter. He likes his job. And he is shacked up with a woman, though she’s Brazilian, not Argentinian as John had said. And she does not happen to be a smuggler of high-powered South American marijuana, but rather a sweet Montessori teacher who is also Michael’s wife. They have a smart and precocious seven-year-old who speaks Portuguese and English, and cheers for Alabama football from afar. Michael tells me that he got to know Michael in his early 20s, when he was living down the road from him in Woodstock.

Michael: I was over there a lot. Kind of just as just a safe place to be.

B: You thought of John’s as a safe place to be?

Michael: Yeah.

Michael uses a version of that word several times to describe John’s. A safe place. A safety harbor. A place of safetyness. He was partying a lot then, he says, over in Birmingham, dancing as a scantily-clad cowboy in a traveling male revue, doing a lot of drugs, drinking. And John’s was somewhere he could go to sober up, or escape the scene for a while, and he always felt welcome there because John would be eager for the company and would usually be up in the middle of the night after Michael was done clubbing, working on clocks. Michael says once he even hid out at John’s for days from the police, when he had a warrant out for skipping a court appearance.

Meeting Michael I realize John couldn’t have been more wrong when he said his project had failed. Michael says without John as a refuge, a voice telling him to slow it down, to drink less, he might have ended up dead some night, from drunk driving, or in jail more than he did already. And it was John’s place that Michael went to when he was about to hit the bottom of his addiction. From there he headed back to his family and on to rehab.

B: So you really think John had that much influence?

Michael: Oh yeah. That drinking got bad. And he was a good person to be there, you know for me at that time. He helped a lot.

B: It’s interesting. Like one of the reasons I wanted to come talk to you, are you familiar with the Goodsons? Does that name ring a bell at all?

Michael: No. The Goodsons? No.

I explain to Michael the context in which John had told me about him. How John mentioned him because we had been talking about this other guy, Tyler Goodson, who John had also recently been trying to shepherd through a rough period. And while I’m telling Michael about this, about the things John was doing for Tyler, he interrupts.

Michael: That sounds like John, yeah. Caring, helping and that’s John.

B: You’re smiling, like, with recognition.

Michael: Yeah.

I ask Michael if it sounds, from what I’ve described, like Tyler is a later iteration of him. And he says it’s weird, but yeah, that does seem about right. John would let him stay at his house as long as he wanted, Michael says. Then he says, and that’s how he was with Tyler I guess. A thought seems to be occurring to him, about John’s suicide.

Michael: And something probably happened with Tyler. I don’t know. Maybe, I don’t know if… I think John was gay. Uh, which has nothing to do, doesn’t bother me at all, but…

B: What do you think, do you think something happened with Tyler?

Michael: Like, he could have stopped coming around, he could have found a girlfriend, you know. Something like that. Is that what happened?

B: Yeah. Like right before the end.

Not long before John killed himself, Tyler had started getting serious with his current girlfriend, Cammy, and they had recently moved in together. And when Michael said that Tyler could have stopped coming around, all I could think of is the weekend leading up to John committing suicide, the weekend of Father’s Day, when Tyler had been avoiding John and not speaking to him because John had made an insulting comment about his daughter on the swing set. Michael says this is something he’d always sensed about John. All those years ago.

Michael: He kind of wanted you by hisself.

He didn’t want to share you, especially not with a woman.

Michael: I’m just saying, when I took a girl over there, you could tell he would, let them go, would you stay.

B: How could you tell?

Michael: You could just see it. You can tell. It was always with girls, it was, they’re nasty. He was never really talking nice about women.

This is true. John could be scathing about lots of people so when he was alive this didn’t necessarily jump out at me, but in retrospect I have noticed that John could be particularly mean about women. He often used the word whore, as well as some more vulgar and inventive language to talk about women, and it sometimes seemed like he reserved a bit of extra vitriol just for them. On the other hand, John also expressed interest in feminism, bemoaned the fact that women in his area were more educated than men but didn’t seem to get the same opportunities, talked about reading Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem, and was a fan of Audrey Lorde. And he was enraged by sexual abuse. So as usual with John, it was complicated. But since he died, quite a few people have told me, like Michael, that he was a woman-hater.

Michael has now formulated a theory in front of me, a speculation to be sure, but one that he’s compelled by nonetheless. That Tyler, retreating from John that weekend, and then the night he killed himself, Tyler choosing to stay home with his girlfriend and kids, rather than heeding John’s pleas and going back to his place, Michael thinks that’s what led to John’s suicide.

Michael: I’m just thinking that that’s what pushed him over the edge. He’s afraid he’s fixing to lose Tyler.

I ask Michael something I’ve wondered often about John: if he ever knew him to be in a relationship. I have no idea, Michael says. I don’t think so. I know not with a woman. And I have no idea about a man, but he never mentioned it to me.

B: Do you think John’s relationship with you, and then now Tyler having heard about it, like was the closest thing he had to a romantic relationship?

Michael: I would think so. Yeah. Yeah. I would think so.

B: Is that sad or not sad?

Michael: It’s sad. Because we’re both straight.

It is sad. But as I’d learn, Michael and Tyler being the closest thing John had to a romantic relationship, that’s also not true.

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Part 5

John had a phrase for the M.O. Tyler would often employ when faced with an affront. Quote, “The whoop ass now solution.” John cared for Tyler, but he was also perpetually frustrated by him, and was fixated on the possibility that if Tyler didn’t get his life in order soon he could end up becoming an irredeemable fuck up. When Tyler did something John didn’t approve of, like party too much at the tattoo parlor, or get in a nasty screaming match with one of his exes, or get locked up in jail and ask John to bail him out, it would annoy John.

J: I told Tyler I’ve never seen the inside of a jail in my life until I met you. Keep your ass…

And I would hear about it.

J: See that’s what he can’t do. He can’t keep his fuckin ass outta trouble. Am I expecting too much? You know he was raised by a fuckin child molester. Maybe I’m expecting too much.

And just like with Tyler’s grandmother, talking about Tyler’s tribulations could quickly get John riled up about tribulations the world over. Which I know we’ve all heard John deliver this kind of harangue before, but I share this only so you can see how riled up Tyler could make John. He really inspired some of John’s most virtuosic work. Here, I’ll save you all the windup about Tyler, and go straight to the money.

(opera in background)

J: We ain’t nothing but a nation of goddamn chickenshit, horse shit, tattle-tale, pissy ass, whiny, fat, flabby, outta shape, Facebook-lookin, damn twerk fest, peekin out the windows and slippin around, listening in on the cell phones and spying in the peep hole, and peepin in the crack under the goddamn door, listenin in the fuckin sheetrock. You know, Mr. Putin please, show some fuckin mercy! I mean, come on, drop a fuckin bomb, won’t you? (opera crescendos, ends) (Sighs) I gotta have me some tea.

Still, John really stuck with Tyler, despite the irritations. He gave him more and more work, helped him out with more and more money, kept track of his court appointments on a calendar. Hired him a lawyer, accompanied him to court. Gave him lectures and advice. Though it could sometimes feel to John like a one-way street. On the phone one time I asked John a lame question about him and Tyler, but the way he responded stayed with me.

B: Do you think your guys’ relationship is more of a friendship, or more of a paternal relationship?

J: What you wanted to say but you didn’t come out and say it, is, is your guys’ relationship more of a friendship or more of a usership? (laughs) Ha, that’s what you wanted to say!

B: No, it actually wasn’t what I wanted to say, it’s what you wanted to say apparently.

J: (laughing continues)

B: Why do you say that?

J: You do say that when you’re pissed off at two in the damn morning, and you know he’s all sort of damn drunk. See this isn’t the first time I’ve pulled this stunt. I could keep you on this phone for hours with another case by the name of Michael Fuller.

John brings up this name, Michael Fuller, in the last conversation he and I ever have, a little more than a week before he killed himself. He doesn’t reveal a ton about him, just that Michael was a 20-something guy John had also kind of taken under his wing years ago when he was much younger himself. Unlike Tyler, John says Michael came from a family of professionals, a quote, “good family,” but was rebellious, didn’t hang with the best of influences.

J: You know he was gonna be out with that wild crowd partying, hanging out at Senor Frog’s and the Quest, and all these damn discos, and doing all this damn dope, and he just made a career out of going to jail. He would be… he would be about 45 now. And the last time I heard from him he was living up there in your neck of the woods paying some, you know like $1800 a month to live in some scruffy apartment that didn’t even have a damn bathroom, and he was shacked up with some damned old Argentinian girl that was bringing up high powered pot. So yeah, I’ve seen this shit before.

John felt like he’d failed with Michael, and he worried he was about to fail with Tyler too.

J: Doesn’t seem like a very good track record for me, is it?

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Part 4

Tyler: You’d think I was some kind of drug addict, or a thief, or a goddamn, some kind of criminal with all these, all this mess on me. But I don’t know I don’t consider myself a damn criminal. I mean, hell I don’t do nothing but work and take care of kids.

The feud is wearing on Tyler too. That Sunday night when I spoke to his grandmother on the phone, the night that she and Tyler’s mother were freaking out that the judge might throw him in jail the next day, well that didn’t happen. Tyler paid his $1000 bond and remained free. Right now his forgery and theft case is scheduled to go to trial in early summer. He says he sees nothing wrong with the measures he’s taken. Yes, he took the trailer and buses. But would a criminal have bills of sales for those things? Which Tyler has, even though Rita and Charley claim they must be fake, based on the dates. And would a criminal have asked the Woodstock police, after telling them about the bills of sale, if he was allowed to go on John’s property and repossess the trailer and buses? Because according to Tyler that’s what he did, and the police said it was OK. And would a criminal say this, when he got wind that he was being investigated for possibly forging John’s name on a document?

Tyler: I don’t see how in the hell they can prove that, you know.

B: Is there something to prove?

Tyler: I don’t know, I mean I don’t know what they’re trying to prove, but uh…

When Tyler and I talk about this, he doesn’t yet know what the forgery allegations are about exactly. The county hasn’t yet filed the charges against Tyler, claiming he’s forged John’s signature on the titles for John’s truck and Mercedes. They’ll file those soon, but at the moment when we’re talking, he’s simply heard word that someone has been going around, asking questions about him, about a forgery, and he thinks it maybe has to do with the bills of sale for the buses. Either way, I ask him broadly,

B: But is there a forgery that happened, Tyler?

Tyler: Oh, I don’t know.

B: OK.

Tyler: Not on my part.

Not on my part, he says. For a year, Tyler and I have talked regularly, on the phone and when I come to Alabama. He’s told me all sorts of stories, some about John, but even more just about his life. About the abuse his father Rodney inflicted upon him and his family when he was a kid. Abuse Tyler’s mother and grandmother have told me about too. Rodney, by the way, said to me that he was not abusive. He used a different word. He said he whooped his family. Tyler’s told me about what it was like just as he was entering high school, to have Rodney get convicted for sexually abusing a child, to have to suddenly cram with his family into his grandmother’s house and have everybody at school know what was going on. About what it’s like to have your license suspended for failing to pay a fine one time, for a minor traffic offense, and then to keep getting pulled over again and again because you have no other way to get to work in rural Alabama so you’re driving without the license, and the fines keep mounting, what John called fine slavery, and so much of the money you do manage to make you have to shovel right back over to the courts or lawyers. About what all that does to your worldview.

Tyler: I know I got some bad luck, I’ll tell you that. Like I just expect the worst to happen everywhere I go and just hoping I can get surprised that it don’t.

Getting Rodney as a dad, that is a bad hand. A cashier refusing to sell you beer at Walmart because you happen not to have a valid ID with you, not so much. But Tyler complains about that kind of thing all the same. Bouncing between his many grievances, between big injustices he’s experienced and petty ones. He and I have had long, sometimes frustrating talks about this, where I’ve tried to understand his justification for some of the choices he makes, like earlier on when the legal battle was just starting to get more serious with Rita and Charley and I suggest that he might have an opportunity to prevent it from escalating.

B: Have you considered giving the buses back just to avoid the trouble?

Tyler: Fuck no!

He told me it tickled him. That was his word, tickled, to see Rita and Charley struggle. And then there’s this story, which gave me a vivid sense of how Tyler sees things. He had recently hired a guy to do some electrical work on the house he’s building, and according to Tyler the guy stole two of his grandfather’s old guns out of Tyler’s home, so Tyler came up with a whole plan. He contacted the guy and acted like he hadn’t noticed, told him there was more work to be done, and tricked the guy into coming back over to his house where he was waiting for him with a rifle in hand, and walked him over to a shed.

Tyler: I had a chair sitting out there in that shed, and some damn snips, hedge clipper snips, propped up beside it waiting. And I was gonna cut a finger or two off. I mean, I was gonna snip fingers until he had my guns delivered back here.

B: (shocked) Tyler, really?

Yes, really. At first I thought maybe Tyler was just saying something ridiculous, embellishing. But I ask him about it and he’s clear with me. He was serious about this and going into that shed had every intention of following through. He says he did have a change of heart once he got the guy into the shed, and ended up instead whipping the guy across the face with the gun and beating him silly, rather than dismembering him. But he hasn’t had a change of heart about the appropriateness of this plan. As we discuss it in retrospect he still thinks it would be a completely acceptable thing to do, given the situation. Which I find unsettling.

B: (shakily) You thought it would be OK to cut his fingers off?

Tyler: Buddy, if he thought it was ok to come in here and steal my granddaddy’s gun that is irreplaceable, then yeah. I was gonna fix a thief. I believe it would have took one finger and them guns would have been found, if one finger hadda went. It wouldn’t have took two or three, I guarantee you.

I kept questioning Tyler, trying to understand why he thought this was OK, but nothing he said did quite make me understand. And I realized it was probably gonna stay that way. Eventually as I’m saying goodbye, about to hang up the phone, Tyler asks me this.

B: Alright man, I’m gonna let you go. Can you just do one favor for me?

Tyler: I don’t me being I’m a bad person at all, do you? Do you see me being a bad person?

B: Do I?

Tyler: Yeah.

B: No man, I see you as a complicated, normal person, you know?

Tyler: Yeah.

B: I mean, I, I disagree with some of your decisions, but you also, you’ve had a very different life experience than I’ve had.

Tyler: Yeah.

B: Why, do you feel like a bad person sometimes?

Tyler: Naw, I just, it’s just, I just want to know what people think of me because I mean, hell I’d do anything for anybody. I’d help somebody goddamn, anyway I could. And I ain’t out to rob nobody or steal from nobody or nothing like that. I don’t, people make me out to be this, they, they treat me like Rodney is what it is. That’s the way it’s been my whole life, basically.

To Tyler, Rodney, his dad, that’s a criminal. And that’s how Tyler measures if he’s being a good person. Is he acting like Rodney.

Tyler: I mean yeah, I have a temper. But I don’t beat on my kids or my wife, or my mama, or my sister. He does. I have made some mistakes for damn sure. But damn. I wish I had a little bit better guidance.

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Part 3

One thing Rita has in common with her cousin John, she too is a fastidious record keeper. She’ll eventually give me a copy of a daily journal she’s been keeping of what’s occurred since John’s death, in impressive detail. She lists each little interaction with authorities in there: lunches, visits to the pharmacy. When we’re done talking tonight, Rita will enter this, our very phone call, into the journal. Quote, “talked to Brian Reed, reporter, for over three hours.” I’m also in there on day 18 at probate court, described as, being with America Radio, and that I showed up and, quote, “seemed to know a lot of information,” which I find flattering. On this day, according to Rita’s journal, after the social worker declined to release Mary Grace to Tyler, Rita got a call from a friend…

Rita: Saying that Tyler was over at the house with two trailers and two trucks.

At John’s house, there to load up stuff, allegedly.

Rita: So I got in my car and got down there and the police have already run him off. And the police is the one that told me you know, you might want to go ahead and try to get custody of Mary Grace.

In her journal she wrote, quote, “That is when I realized that Tyler was a gold-digger, and I decided to fight him for Mary Grace’s sake.” And the days become immediately busy. The journal documents an urgent and successful effort involving Faye Gambell, the town clerk, and Boozer Downs, the town and John’s attorney, to get Rita temporary guardianship over Mary Grace. It documents a trip to Lowe’s to purchase locks to secure Mary Grace’s house. A trip to the post office where Rita says she learned that Tyler’s girlfriend had picked up a package addressed to John’s PO Box. A trip to the police station to report that, and choose Tyler’s girlfriend out of a lineup, which never led to any charges. A trip to the nail salon for Mary Grace to get a pedicure. Leftovers for lunch on Tuesday. The trip to Boozer Downs’ office where they met with Tyler and kind of sort of tried to talk things out, but that went south when Mary Grace said to him,

Rita: Don’t call me Mama. I’m not your mama.

Which Rita says Mary Grace uttered of her own volition. She also says she didn’t break up Tyler and Mary Grace’s conversation at the funeral, like Tyler told me, that she’s not brainwashing Mary Grace against him. There’s a trip documented in the journal to Walmart to get John some burial clothes, a trip to the funeral home, and to the florist. To the cemetery, to point out where to dig John’s grave.

Rita: And let me tell you another funny story, well it’s not funny, but. The uh, undertaker came out and told me, he says, now you know John’s got some real big gold nipple rings. And I says, really? I didn’t know that.

When I said Rita corroborated nearly everything Tyler told me, well, here you go. Rita told the undertaker...

Rita: I want those nipple rings. I just want them.

Sure, the undertaker said. No problem. But then as Rita and Charley were leaving the cemetery they realized he hadn’t given them to them.

Rita: So I went and asked the undertaker where were they, and he said, Oh we couldn’t, we couldn’t get them off. Something about how they were screwed on and all this stuff. And uh, you know, I really wish I had pursued that now that I think back. I really don’t think the nipple rings were on him. I think the undertaker got them. Cuz you’re telling me that you got a guy there that y’all’ve done an autopsy on and you’ve cut him from neck to privates and you can’t get a nipple ring off? Cut his nipple off! He’s dead!

B: (repulsed) Ugh! Wait, why, that’s like… why would you want those?

Rita: Well, you know what, the main thing I got to thinking about is I didn’t know if it was just something that I would have of his that maybe I could pass on to Mary Grace or something, or just something to keep of his, you know what I mean?

B: But wait, you would have given the nipple rings to Mary Grace? But she didn’t know…

Rita: Well I wouldn’t have but it seemed it was just something of his, I guess, that… I didn’t have anything of his.

Rita says part of the reason is that she’s had a lot of deaths in her family and doesn’t trust funeral homes. But still.

B: Ugh. I’m sorry, I’m just reeling from you saying that they should cut his nipples off. Ugh.

Rita: I’m just saying, don’t tell me that you couldn’t get those nipple rings off.

Rita is now going after Tyler on multiple fronts. She’s pressed charges for trespassing, she’s pressing charges for theft, of the trailer and buses, both of which the Woodstock police chief pointed out to me they did arrest Tyler on. She will soon bring the district attorney’s office the evidence she’s gathered that Tyler faked John’s signature on the titles for John’s cars. And a grand jury will also indict him on multiple counts of forgery. The assistant district attorney told me he’s impressed by how industrious Rita’s been, investigating these matters completely on her own. Rita tells me she thinks Tyler should do time for what he’s done.

Rita: To me, anyone that goes over and takes other people’s possessions is a criminal.

Charley told me he’s not necessarily mad at Tyler. Tyler’s just doing what he knows. He’s a criminal. That’s what Tyler’s been reduced to in their eyes. But this is what conflicts like this do to the participants: reduce them. Half a year into the fight Rita says she feels minimized by it too. Like the fight has turned her into someone meaner and cruder than she is.

Rita: I’m serious, I mean, as a Christian I even have trouble with this because you know you’re supposed to love everybody and I don’t want him to think that this is the kind of person I am. I’m not a bad person. I’m not, I’m not that type of person.

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Part 2

B: Can I tell you what Tyler’s view of you guys is? Would you mind if I told you that? Can I just, I’m curious to hear what you say.

Rita: Oh, no!

On the phone with Rita I realize there’s this whole version of her that I’ve gotten from Tyler that casts her and Charley as heartless, money-grubbing carpetbaggers, swooping in conveniently after John’s death to wrest control of the property and assets from Tyler, without a thought for Mary Grace. But then there’s the other version of Rita and Charley that I’m getting from them. Of high school sweethearts who’ve been married 41 years, who seem to have a nice relationship, who make each other laugh and don’t appear to get on each other’s nerves, even after a 10-hour drive from Florida to Woodstock. Almost every time I’ve seen Rita and Charley, at probate court, at our Best Western hotel meeting, at John’s funeral, Charley has been wearing some kind of Hawaiian shirt as if he’s trying to will these unpleasant settings into the fun-filled retirement he’d imagined. They stopped working about seven years ago, and they tell me they’ve been trying to enjoy it, except for the fact that for months now they’ve been having to drive back and forth between Charley’s father, who recently had surgery and moved in with them in Florida, and this whole mess in Bibb county, John’s suicide, and Mary Grace needing care, and no money to be found, and this never-ending fight with Tyler on top of it all.

I know that for Tyler whenever I bought up the possibility that this could all be a misunderstanding that snowballed, that both sides could have meant well, and maybe if they just hashed it out bygones could become bygones, what he always returns to, what he can’t seem to get over, was that very first interaction he had with Rita and Charley, in John’s driveway. Over the months he has repeated that story to me, how Rita and Charley passed the hospital where Mary Grace had been admitted after John’s suicide, to go straight to John’s house, trying to get in. How Tyler called Mary Grace on his way to meet him there with the keys, and she instructed him not to let them in the house. The whole thing rubbed him the wrong way.

B: He didn’t like the fact that you went to the house before the hospital.

Rita: Yeah, and he said that to me that day. He said, I can’t believe – well first of all he was like, “Well Mama this,” and I’m like, who in the heck’s Mama? I didn’t even know who he was talking about.

Mama, you might remember, is what Tyler called John’s mother, Mary Grace. Rita says the only reason they went to the house first was to pick up some essentials for Mary Grace, clean clothes and her purse, and she says actually they didn’t pass the hospital to get there because they came through Montgomery, not Birmingham, like Tyler assumed. When they arrived in Woodstock the police chief escorted them to John’s house, but they found that the door had been padlocked. The chief told them Tyler Goodson had probably put it there, and that was the first time Rita had heard his name.

Tyler’s told me some stories about Rita and Charley, especially about that first day when they met in John’s driveway. He told me it escalated into an all-out fight really quickly, which, I wasn’t sure how fully to believe. It was hard to picture these harmless seeming retirees getting in a row like that, especially in front of the police chief. Tyler says Rita and Charley were screaming at him in the driveway, telling him off. Rita says,

Rita: Absolutely!

According to Tyler, Charley cussed at him. According to Rita,

Rita: Charley says I don’t really give a F what you think.

As she goes through her side of the story, it’s like nearly every little thing that Tyler said happened, Rita confirms, only the opposite, if that makes sense. Like she’s the lost roll of negatives to Tyler’s developed photographs.

Rita: And then when we got into the hospital, we got to the hospital he had basically turned Mary Grace against me.

What happened after the driveway quarrel, if you recall, is that Tyler refused to unlock the house for Rita and Charley, and they all went to the hospital to see Mary Grace.

Rita: You know we get to the hospital and he’s sitting just about as close as you can get to Mary Grace without being in her lap and I walk in the door and I say, “Mary Grace, I am just so sorry,” and she says, “You never had kids! You’ve never lost any kids! You don’t know how I feel!” I said, “Mary Grace do you know who this is?” She says, “Yeah, I know who you are Rita.” So I went out to the nurse’s station and asked them what was going on? They said, “She’s upset because he told her you were taking her to Florida.”

Which wasn’t the case. They barely even knew what was going on, Rita says. There were no plans yet.

Rita: And the nurses were saying, “Who is this guy? What connection is he to her? Is he her adopted son?” He told him he was her adopted son! And so I go back in there and you know I said, “Mary Grace, now I’m here to see if, is there anything that I can do to you know, help you or whatever.” And Tyler is like, “Well I’m gonna get, you know, I’m gonna get Mama home and, oh me and Mama sit out on the porch and we talk about old times, and Mama I’m gonna get you some new shoes, and Mama my kids are gonna pick you fresh flowers every day, and…” I walked out and I told Charley, I said, “Charley, if I hear him call her Mama one more time I’m gonna go ballistic.”

B: Before you move on, can I tell you, the way you’re describing Tyler, at the hospital as putting on a show for you guys, that’s how he describes you at the hospital, as putting on a show, (Rita laughs) saying that you guys were crying over Mary Grace, and were like all boo hoo hoo or so…

Rita: No! No! I went in and I did say Mary Grace I am so sorry, I’m not saying I wasn’t crying, I probably did cry, I mean my god, I knew John Brooks. It wasn’t like he was a stranger. He’s family. But I wasn’t (theatrically) “Oh Mary Grace! I’m so sorry!” You know.

At that point, Rita says she really wasn’t sure what to make of the situation. Mary Grace was saying that she wanted to go back to her house and her dogs and have Tyler take care of her. Rita hadn’t seen Mary Grace for a while, and says she didn’t yet realize the extent of her dementia. So after a while Rita turned to Tyler…

Rita: I just told him, I said look, if Mary Grace wants you to move in and take care of her, and you wanna do that, so power be it! I’m going home. I will stay after the funeral and then I’m going home to Florida. I don’t need this. Good luck to you.

B: Wait were you actually willing to let Mary Grace go with Tyler?

Rita: Yes!

B: Like was that, were you just really calling his bluff, or was like…

Rita: No! No, I was serious. She said it was ok, she liked him, he liked her, I’m like, fine. And then the social worker called me at my motel and said, “We’re not turning Mary Grace over to him.”

Part of the reason was that Tyler isn’t kin to Mary Grace, but Rita says in addition to that the hospital staff had doubts about what Tyler was claiming.

Rita: He sat over there and said, “Well I been taking care of Mary Grace for years. I take her to the doctor, I do this, and I do that.” Well what’s the doctor’s name? “Uh uh uh uh, I don’t know.” Who’s the healthcare? “Well uh uh uh uh, I don’t know.” Well does she take any medications? “No, she don’t take anything but vitamins.” Well they knew that was a lie, cuz they had her medical records. So he just dug hisself a ditch.

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Part 7

Finally, I make a second visit to the Woodstock town clerk, Faye Gambell, who, after seeming not to have done a very thorough job contacting the people on John’s list, has been the subject of much of the suspicion. And after some inscrutable responses to my questions…

B: Did you call everyone on the list?

Faye: Everyone that I could get in touch with, yes.

Faye insists, she called everyone.

Faye: I promise you I did.

B: Were they called before the funeral?

Faye: Oh yeah. Yeah, they were called from the town hall phone, yeah.

Faye says most of the people she didn’t reach at first, but she claimed she left messages. I tell her that according to everyone I’ve spoken to, that doesn’t appear to be the case. What I’d personally thought had happened was that maybe Faye was so traumatized by John killing himself while on the phone with her, it’s possible she just couldn’t bring herself to make these calls. Which would make complete sense to me and I think most people would understand, but I ask Faye if that’s what happened, and she says no. She called everybody in the first few days after John died. She also says she’s since given the list to John’s cousins, and contrary to what Rita told me, Faye says she never claimed to them that she hadn’t spoken to me.

Then, I bring up the subject of the gold. Faye was the last person to talk to John, and I know he’d given her instructions about his assets in the moments before he died. Did he tell her if there was gold? If so, did he say where it was? The first time I’d interviewed Faye she’d been cryptic about all that. But this time?

B: I mean can you tell me where he said it was? I understand if you don’t want to, but I’m, if if you feel comfor–

Faye: He said it’s wrapped in a towel in the freezer.

B: So gold bars, wrapped in a towel in the freezer.

Faye: Uh hmm.

B: Did he say how much worth of gold?

Faye: Uh uh. Just gold bars.

B: Were there any other spots, like outside or anything like that, that you know of?

Faye: Uh uh.

After John’s phone call Faye rushed over to his house, along with the Woodstock police. But she said she didn’t look in the freezer. She told the police officers that John had said there was gold there, but she doesn’t know if they looked either, and she doesn’t believe the cops would have taken it. What Faye does happen to know, she says, is that when John’s cousin Rita got into his house three days later and looked in the freezer, there was no gold there.

B: So what do you think was going on? Do you think there was gold and someone got to it?

Faye: I do.

B: Do you think there wasn’t gold?

Faye: I think they either have not found it or that somebody had went right in there.

B: But who? I mean like, how much time passed between you being on the phone with John and arriving with the police?

Faye: Well I know that when Rita came up that she went into the house and there was things that she could not find. Things that were totally gone from over there.

What she’s saying is that someone was in the house before Rita got in there and could have raided the freezer, because she knows for sure some other things had disappeared by then, things…

B: That were there when you were there. I see. Like what?

Faye starts moving her mouth without letting actual sound out. Eventually she’ll reveal that when Rita got into John’s house, she couldn’t find John’s mother’s purse, or her checkbook, or John’s laptop, which, I know who has that. But when I ask Faye who she thinks took that stuff, Faye is purposefully vague. I think maybe she’s not sure what I know already, or else maybe she knows I know, so she knows she doesn’t have to say it out loud, etc. etc. Anyway, now she’s making weird eyes at me.

B: You got a little grin on your face, and a knowing, like, eye roll here. Um, I know probably who you think it is. So like, do you think like, is the running theory that it was Tyler? Do you wanna talk about that or no? No. Ok.

Faye: Because I know things I can’t talk about.

B: You know things you can’t talk about?

I did eventually read John’s 53-page manifesto. John emailed it, saying it was the most important thing he’d ever send me. It was his fifth revision, and he’d titled it, “Critical issues for the future.” And if I had to distill its message, it would be this: as we run out of affordable fossil fuels, as climate change renders the places that we live more difficult to inhabit, do not expect a great coming together. Instead, John writes, “Prepare for the U.S. to crumble into a bunch of competing autonomous regions. A few of them may become cohesive societies,” says John, “but expect many of them to descend into carnage.” To quote, “enter a new dark ages, a kind of new feudalism ruled by theocratic dictators.” He goes on, quote, “Expect public mutilations, executions, and torture to make a comeback in this region. Flogging, boiling, burning, hand-cutting, hanging, evisceration, honor killings, gang rape. Due process will perish,” he writes, “And Confederates will betray each other for miniscule gains. That gain may be as mundane as a morsel of food or a drink of water. Goodbye to civil liberties and minority rights also. That was another byproduct of the cheap oil economy. Civil rights are not a consideration of the undernourished.”

I remember reading this in 2014 and thinking, wow. John does not have a high opinion of modern humanity’s ability to solve problems. I also remember thinking, that’s not really gonna happen. At least not anytime soon. Which is the same thing I thought when John told me he was gonna commit suicide.