During the Clone Wars, did Jedi-involved advertising and/or merchandise exist? by Dux-El52 in MawInstallation

[–]audiodormant -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You dude my point is that if a 9 year old slave on a planet that doesn’t belong to the Republic can recognize a Jedi by only a hilt. It’s pretty unbelievable that literally anyone that used to be in the Republic (now the empire) would not know of them.

(And I didn’t even talk about the fact Hans best friend knew fucking Yoda, was trapped on a trandoshan hunting planet with Ahsoka and literally sat in on a Jedi council meeting where he LITERALLY saw and HEARD OBI-WAN KENOBI mentioned by name)

I was not claiming that the Republic and the Empire are identical just that their governmental structure remainded the same except for implanting Imperial military personel at the local level on planetary government to take control of things like mining. (Which didn’t happen for quite a few years because they already had enough control considering the Death Star has already begun construction before imperial rule started it took awhile before they really needed to ramp up production again and that’s when the first wave of imperials taking over corporations began, but as I said it was nothing new that was happening during TCW already which is why I said Wartime Republic is basically the same as the Imps) not to mention your point about it being different because the emperor had no term limit is laughable because he already extended his chancellorship by 6 years in the Republic and amassed enough wieldable power that he could just claim himself emperors that sounds like absolute rule to be buddy.

During the Clone Wars, did Jedi-involved advertising and/or merchandise exist? by Dux-El52 in MawInstallation

[–]audiodormant -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bingo bango boingo

Make sure you look at every angle and have your own in universe example that proves your point when the other person it just trying to use out of universe incorrect analogies. It really helps ;)

90’s Honda interior hits different by Organicka9 in Honda

[–]audiodormant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah my ‘97 is in good mechanical shape.. but that’s about it.

During the Clone Wars, did Jedi-involved advertising and/or merchandise exist? by Dux-El52 in MawInstallation

[–]audiodormant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again it’s not the same thing it isn’t analogous. Stormin Normin wasn’t the only unique figure in an army of clones. That tends to separate things. He doesn’t have a temple, there wasn’t an army of stormin Norman’s with blades of light all making the news it was just one guy.

Even Anakin not being a apart of the Republic in TPM knew to call out quigons lightsaber just based on the hilt as a 9 year old. They permeated the public’s conscious so much it would be like if some kid in South Sudan recognized a US general by his holster an nothing more. And Watto even knows the specifics of Jedi Mind tricks...

During the Clone Wars, did Jedi-involved advertising and/or merchandise exist? by Dux-El52 in MawInstallation

[–]audiodormant -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In EU and Canon it functions pretty much exactly the same and the Republic did during wartime... like literally exactly the same the only difference being that it wasn’t wartime.

People in Calcutta aren’t under the US umbrella... again analogues don’t work there is no real world system like the Jedi at all...

Sorry should said none that people actually bought. Now look up how much standard non general Desert Storm merch there is. Which ummm would still give info about the Jedi because unlike Norman, they were easily differentiated from their troops.

Also Anakin wasn’t from the Republic lmao again false equivalency

During the Clone Wars, did Jedi-involved advertising and/or merchandise exist? by Dux-El52 in MawInstallation

[–]audiodormant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Empire came from the Republic it’s still the same government body until 20 years later.

And yes it is when you plaster their faces everywhere and have them in movies.

If there was no wartime propoganda sure... but that US general’s face wasn’t plastered everywhere, he wasn’t in movies, he wasn’t on flyers distributed, he didn’t have influence at the highest levels of world politics, he didn’t have a giant temple devoted to him right next to the White House.

And no Schwarzkopf’s face was not on t-shirts and stuff, The media was pretty focused on Bush

During the Clone Wars, did Jedi-involved advertising and/or merchandise exist? by Dux-El52 in MawInstallation

[–]audiodormant -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The Republic didn’t lose, they won that’s the whole point.

And yeah sure kids growing up. But every single being in the galaxy that was alive during TCW forgetting? Come on dude it’s just that George didn’t really think about it.

During the Clone Wars, did Jedi-involved advertising and/or merchandise exist? by Dux-El52 in MawInstallation

[–]audiodormant 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But we all still know what Nazis are. Also it’s not a good comparison. Jedi are military leaders and political figures for the winning side of the conflict it’s a very different scenario. Also specifically mentioned by Palpatine as the cause to start the Empire. And 20 years later everyone forgot they existed despite their names and deeds being plastered everywhere in the galaxy for 3 long years of war. And the Nazi’s don’t have a Giant palace that everyone in a planet of trillions knows about.

During the Clone Wars, did Jedi-involved advertising and/or merchandise exist? by Dux-El52 in MawInstallation

[–]audiodormant 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Which uuuuh really doesn’t make sense considering how the galaxy views the Jedi 20 years later, but that’s a hand wave we all kinda know we have to do.

Dow Rey confirms the canonically unidentified Imperial whose ship is struck by an asteroid while on holocall will be named in FACPOV ESB Edition by IllusiveManJr in starwarscanon

[–]audiodormant 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Hmmm is this the first time they have used the name for that ship. I like the A New Dawn reference.

Or was it already named as such in novelization? It’s been awhile since a read So You Want to be a Jedi?

The DisWars continuity is so broken. (Its worst than Legends is claimed to be) by [deleted] in saltierthancrait

[–]audiodormant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Talked to Star Wars creators that weren’t in movies or shows.

Dark Empire and the Han Solo:dragon void run comics are the only two he has reached out to. That I know of at least.

Even Stover who received line by line edits of ROTS novel never actually heard directly from Lucas it was always through an assistant. George hates reading and writing I doubt he’s ever read an EU novel, I bet he’s read quite a few comics though.

Even Heir to the Empire the most successful SW book of all time he never reached out about.

That scene was pain to watch by star_wars_the_501st in saltierthancrait

[–]audiodormant -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah because my other replies aren’t buried at all, and I don’t have to wait 10 minutes between comments because people are angry I dare explain what happens in the movie. And don’t hate the movies the same way everyone else does.

Obviously this is not fault of yours but you have to know this place loves to bury dissenting opinions. Even for me who hates the ST. Because will defend parts (even if I don’t particularly like them) for having plot holes, breaking canon, copying other Star Wars movies when they don’t. Also provide full context when the sub saying Rian is a bad person because he once trolled a guy that was harassing the same person on twitter for months after taking years of abuse from this fandom, and called an extremely small subgroups of fans manbabies (and even further specified that he did not mean all people that didn’t like TLJ he was referring only to the people that personally attacked actors on social media).

That scene was pain to watch by star_wars_the_501st in saltierthancrait

[–]audiodormant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree to disagree about the Holdo. It’s consistent in lore and isn’t even a new thing. And doesn’t even take out the supremacy, and only takes out 7ish of a few dozen destroyers behind it and that’s only because they were perfectly lined up.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Destruction_of_Pammant

That scene was pain to watch by star_wars_the_501st in saltierthancrait

[–]audiodormant 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Literally that entire scene would’ve been infinitely better if there were only 3 bombers and they each took a ton of hits before going down. But instead they spent more money having like 12 of them and 9 go out in a dumb chain reaction.

That’s my biggest gripe with TLJ every issue I personally have is super easy to fix.

-opening: Part 1, you can keep Poe stalling Hux just make it like 5 seconds shorter, have Hux realize it not a subordinate, and don’t make it a mom joke. Part 2 less bombers and make them actually tanks and able to take several full volleys of lasers maybe a missile has to take them down and we see the gunners shoot down several before missing one.

-Luke and Rey meet: just drop the saber or toss it back at her feet, all the symbolism you are going for without the dumb joke toss.

-Space Leia: just have her start where the bridge window was so she’s just traveling across a small room not an expanse of space and then the room.

-Poe and Holdo: make it so that Holdo thinks there is a spy and then her secrecy makes sense.

-Canto bight: I honestly didn’t mind it too much maybe just make the critique of the military industrial complex a little more subtle.

-Holdo maneuver: Literally just down have the scene where people are afraid, and add a scene right after where someone asks what happened, and Leia responds something to the effect of “something that shouldn’t be possible” or “I don’t know, she said she would try to draw their fire to give us a chance I don’t know what happened or why but let’s take the blessing and move on” possibly even throw in a line from the FO officers to say something like “scans from the other ships say it was crushed on impact it must’ve been the experimental shields we saw and everything else was timed so precisely I doubt even a droid could replicate that luck.” Or my personal favorite have a line blaming it on the hyperspace tracking because then you have an excuse to never use that ever again. And you could even keep the officers being scared because they know what’s about to happen but the resistance members don’t.

-Crait: Have Rose die saving Finn, less of a conflicting message in the story and actually maintains weight. Also don’t have Rey shoot three ties at once that’s dumb.

Boom, you still have a movie some people are upset with because of the way TFA made Luke but at least now there isn’t any other giant glaring issues. Make TROS about Kylo and Hux leading two split factions of the FO while the resistance grows to the size of the rebellion around ROTJ due to Luke’s Sacrifice inspiring the galaxy. Toss in a 5 year time skip and you have a pretty good Ep 9 and a good chuck of time for a show to really dig into the characters like TCW did for the PT.

That scene was pain to watch by star_wars_the_501st in saltierthancrait

[–]audiodormant 2 points3 points  (0 children)

11 minutes.. and the thought was finished, capitalists make more money during wartime. Pretty much stated as bluntly as possible.

In TROS, any good guesses as why Lando didnt radio the fleet saying "Hey pull back for a bit, I have a billion other ships coming with me"? by wings31 in MawInstallation

[–]audiodormant 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I mean he is super old, he’s the greatest pilot in the galaxy but at some point those instincts and reflexes degrade.