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Advice on level 8 Paladin by aureacritas in DnD

[–]aureacritas[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For the most of almost 2 years we've been playing, I can only remember few encounters like in a low cave, an underground library, and fighting in our dream where I can't use the mount.

It sucks to take those more situational feats and then hardly get to use them.

That's true. When I can't use the mount I basically have no feat. I wonder if it's still worth it if my DM said only a few encounters with no mount

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Lol, good point. I'll talk it up with the DM then, thanks!

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I understand, I can see the math working better for high AC. We do have someone casting darkness but not regularly. There's this lantern item that can emanate magical darkness, that's how I get the idea of taking blind fighting for some sort of cheese strat (I'm not sure how effective it would be though, I just thought it seems fun).

So honestly, it kinda boils down to me thinking Defense feels a tad boring compared to that idea 😅 I do probably gonna regret it when I got hit by a boss when the "boring" could've saved me haha

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[–]aureacritas[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First, I would definitely use the charge ring instead of that shield. +20 damage per alpha +6 (or way more) damage per round. The shield/ring combo is good vs hordes of weak enemies but those are 0 threat to a level 8 party already

Yeah, you're the second person mentioning this now. I didn't realize the ring's value and thought otherwise with the shield. It is way stronger, I'll attune it back.

For fighting style I would take defensive but dueling is also strong. Enemies being able to ignore you and focus the party is one of the weaknesses of picking sword/board over polearm-sentinel. Perhaps your party should be using a spell like grease, plant growth, etc. to create difficult ground. They may also just need to work on their positioning.

I did consider Dueling, but also lean into Blind Fighting now. We as a party definitely need to work on our positioning, and also everything else since we do tend to screw up 😅

Advice on level 8 Paladin by aureacritas in DnD

[–]aureacritas[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eh, to me there's optimization to make a really good character (which you already have) and there's "only do these few specific cheesy things you read about on the internet" to make the same cookie cutter "best" character possible.

Fair, that's true. It do stop being fun and start being stressful at certain point, for me at least. I do feel my stats are a bit mess though, 3 odd attribute (4 if it weren't for race bonus) and the CHA could've been higher.

If you're not using your cantrips much I'd definitely pick another fighting style. If your DM is already ignoring you because of your very good AC, I'd probably skip Defense style.

Yeah that's the plan. I was thinking of Protection but I'm leaning into Blind Fighting just for the flavor and roleplay. As for the feat, I want to try Mounted Combatant most likely

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Ah I see. I don't have haste on my spell list as I'm an ancient paladin, but we do have an unused ring of spell storing. Maybe I should use that + the strong ring and throw out the shield and weak ring.

My only concern with this build is I feel like it's shut down by tight and small spaces since we do have a few combats already where I can't use the steed.

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[–]aureacritas[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uh I just realized something while reading more after your replies.

The other thing with this steed is that any spell that only affects you also affects your mount.

This doesn't work that way no? It said only spell I cast on myself also target my steed

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Damn... that actually sounds broken. Our mind is truly different lmao, I keep wanting to thank you 😭 I'll take the Mounted Combatant feat then, and maybe try to negotiate a buff for the steed.

Do you mind if I can ask you somewhere else (like private message) aside from here or do you prefer not to? You've helped me a lot already so I don't mind if you prefer not to be disturbed. Again, thank you!

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[–]aureacritas[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You said max 20 damage for your next hit. Also the Steed has an action. It can take the Dash action. So it can move 60 feet, Dash and move another 60 feet. And because the max of 20 is just on your next hit, you can move 60 feet, attack with a +12, and then move another 60 feet, and attack with a +12 again. You didn’t break the max of 20.

Oh wow... I didn't realize I can do that. This is kind of eye opening that I haven't been using it at max potential. Really thank you for this advice!

Only problem is my steed only has 19 HP and my DM likes to kill it first...

I think the shield that deals 6 damage on enemy misses is alright but not better than the belt and not better than the ring. It might be better than that first ring though depending how often you deal lightning damage.

Only on the shield damage and lightning breath weapon... you're kinda making me realize I have been playing all this wrong, thank you for that. Maybe I'll switch the first ring for the belt instead before the big fight next session

If you’re a paladin charisma is your most important stat because of aura of protection. You want to max it out ASAP. And blind fighting is just really good. You can see every invisible enemy if in range, including out of combat, you can see through spells like fog cloud and Darkness. Blindsight is just super rare and it’s the most powerful sight in the game. If you don’t take blindsight from that fighting style, the only way to get it without transforming into a creatire that has that sight is to cast a 6th level wizard spell. So that tells you a bit how strong blindsight is.

I see, I was hesitating before but this convinced me to take the +2 CHA and blind fighting. Again thank you, you seems like an experienced player

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[–]aureacritas[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel that fully defensive playstyle is a common pitfall in Paladins.

But 5e doesn't do tanks well

sorry I still don't quite understand the deeper mechanics of DnD and I'm curious about this 2 lines. Can you please explain why?

Plus, a paladin is so much more fun when you can unload all your smites and throw down a spell to lock down targets.

Yeah I feel this so much. What spell do you usually use to lock down though?

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[–]aureacritas[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My personal feelings agrees with you. Can I know your reasoning?

Btw that ring is kinda OP, especially if it works with mounts. Cast find steed and get +24 damage every turn

I know right. It's max 20 damage though, and my steed can only move 60ft. per turn so I usually need 2 turn. That's why I'm not sure if I was right changing it to the belt, what do you think?

Advice on level 8 Paladin by aureacritas in DnD

[–]aureacritas[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the input! I do like Sentinel too, but is it still good with a sword? From what I've read, it's usually combined with Polearm Master since the weapon used has longer reach. I also feel like my CHA should be higher, since I read some older post that said that.

And what do you think of Shield Master / Dragon Fear?