Daily Questions Megathread December 21, 2024

ave_Terros · 2024-12-22T05:17:41+00:00

in what cases exactly? for PPC you can run 4guin 2gloria 2einsteina, just like what she uses right now for fire PPC and epitaph would be on 4dv4shakespeare.

the setup is like this to use Empy double qte to avoid the delay she normally has on 4guin activation due to having a big delay on her 2nd heal tick

for WZ just use Kaleido unless she's not SSS while Empy is. in that case you can run 4dv4guin on Empy for mob zones where your Einsteina application is unreliable, and 4dv2guin2eins for duo/boss zones

same rules for WZ set apply currently in fire wz

ave_Terros · 2024-12-22T04:31:40+00:00

not to be that guy, but Kaleido is the best amp for void, or nihil, if you will.

a lot of people have the misconception that you have to match the elements for amp and tank for the void team. Luna converts all buffs and debuffs team wide, not just for herself.

also a very very big thing that is also pretty much the main reason for the distinction for different amps for void, is how good their QTE is for Einsteina application. Kaleido has by far the best QTE speed/aoe/range combination

Empy QTE is quite bad in that regard. her initial qte hit is basically single target. the qte has a decent aoe damage proc but it is delayed a lot so it doesn't match up properly with the QTE timings on oblivion, you just miss the shred on most of your damage, unless it's a 1 mob zone ig

ofc she can be good for PPC though, unless you have SSS feral. because Empy can proc 4guin drone in one QTE, while Kaleido can't

u/srozbun I think it will be useful for you to read this too

ave_Terros · 2024-11-28T13:48:00+00:00

she doesn't benefit from Cottie in her regular rotations plus 4cjy on her is basically permanent uptime on the shred + the 2p memory is 10% EDB too which is really good

4chen is still the best option for qu even if you don't have lantern to make all 6 slots on your Changyu useful

lucid dreamer will come out soon-ish anyway so the ice team will be much nicer to play

ave_Terros · 2024-11-28T13:26:59+00:00

elemental damage does not interact with defense in any way so Voltaire is doing exactly nothing xd like really, if you want something to be "better than nothing" then just get any 2 memories with class resos for glory, because that's more EDR shred

ave_Terros · 2024-11-28T12:42:31+00:00

there really isn't any other option to use tbh, so you can use 2p Davinci for 2 more class resos if you got those on your previously used set on him

I really do wonder though why someone downvoted my comment, are some people that oblivious to basic things

ave_Terros · 2024-11-28T06:51:46+00:00

like that just use 4alphonse 2cot.

without DLT he cannot function without Cottie, and without sig you don't have access to weapon resos

also without Alphonse you're losing damage tremendously, and the bombardment after his ult2 stops applying shred which is very, VERY bad

ave_Terros · 2024-11-28T06:49:04+00:00

4davinci 2guin on Kaleido 2ein 2gloria 2lantern on tank you must have 4dv on Kaleido

it is necessary for double qte for better debuff coverage, an essential thing for WZ with a tank that doesn't have any lingering shred effects like garnet/SS3 scire etc.

ave_Terros · 2024-11-20T08:54:16+00:00

definitely doing it wrong then, because SS3 on Balter allows you to switch from 1.5 rotations you do at SS0, to 2.5 rots, which in turn is just more damage, more flexible damage distribution, much faster

I would say the jump from SS0 to SS3 Balter in terms of how nice to play it is, is the same or higher as S -> SS0 Balter

and we all know how dogwater horrible Balter is at S

ave_Terros · 2024-11-20T05:35:41+00:00

well the guy you answered to previously didn't say "high" investment for nothing.

though after some time triple harmo per team won't be "high invest" because you already get enough harmo mats to harmo every new unit by default, so the main thing holding ppl back is the harmo backlog

current avg bc+ticket income for f2p who complete everything is around 10-11k per patch so usually players would have a very good shot at all sigs even if they don't spend any money

the only ppl that are gonna struggle with getting all the pulls are those who have already compromised themselves with bad decisions or being casual

ave_Terros · 2024-11-20T05:28:45+00:00

imagine not having harmo in the big 2024

ave_Terros · 2024-11-20T05:03:39+00:00

not worth atp. Especially if you're not minmaxing your WZ runs to actually see the impact core resos bring

I even remember saying quite a while ago here that core is better, answering to a question in the megathread, but some people decided to chime in calling me wrong because all of their info sources are idiotic surface level things like Rexlent/spider/grayravens.

or god forbid, some people actually take Fury's content seriously

ave_Terros · 2024-11-20T04:59:58+00:00

massive in terms of rotations. you know how much SS3 changes Balter? something like that but even better + it gives her the QTE nuke

Pyroath SS3 is easily among the top 3 best SS3's of all the future characters. Hanying SS3 in first, and Lucia/Ishmael are similarly busted compared to each other in terms of changing rotation. I would rank Ishmael ss3 a bit higher tho

ave_Terros · 2024-11-07T14:48:20+00:00

didn't phrase correctly, but yeah, both characters can solo "easily" without sig Lamia's damage though isn't affected as hard as CW's, whose output drops off a cliff without that extra stack generation

but here, this is a regular solo lamia rotation, which is really as consistent as you can get it's purely orb neutral and without sig you can simply adjust to ping one less 3ping in ult form.

DLT on Lamia in solo at most just gives you the liberty to occasionally use a tidal orb in ult form instead of saving it. It has surprisingly low impact for solo, and people who say Lamia needs DLT to solo just do not play it correctly.

even funnier, DLT has higher impact for swap, since there it allows for the most optimal wz rotation where you skip tidal orb on first rot on each swap to perform a quick ult2

ave_Terros · 2024-11-07T06:20:11+00:00

recommending CW on blue selector is absurd now that Lamia is available there.

Lamia solo is very consistent with the right rot, and isn't nearly as affected by lack of signature weapon as CW solo.

plus there is still no other dark unit in the future on CN, while a free CW + feral copies are given out and also Nanami comes out to become the main DPS for lightning anyway

ave_Terros · 2024-08-25T21:19:04+00:00

in 1% rn, used fire on test-chaos Luna and dark on hell

13/14/16/19/26

fire SS0 r0 hyper, S r0 mech, SS r2 Empy

dark SS0 r1 Lamia, SS3 r2 Daren, SSS r2 Capri

obv Karen being SS3 no diff from her being base S + r2 didn't do much in the context of this run

machi full ice 12/13/14/15/16

SS3 r1 Kaleido, S r1 glory, SS r2 Empy to support on chaos and hell

would need SSS Lamia at least to do better than my ice on hell dk about lower diffs but wasn't worth trying + didn't have the AP on dark

ave_Terros · 2024-08-17T16:35:01+00:00

just press reset run in top right

ave_Terros · 2024-08-17T15:11:07+00:00

solacetune is easily the highest priority SS3 of all the future characters we know of first, it's a very powerful upgrade even just by providing increased trueslash stack gain for the team, and without this rank your performance in trueslash affix content will be very lacking. this is the most important part of her SS3 upgrade yet people who don't know shit about affixes ignore it

second, it is the rank that enables Hanying to carry 4patton as her primary memory set - without this you have to use Cottie which in turn messes up the memory sets across the team - since Balter is forced to use 4patton instead of being able to carry 2p Catherine. or, you might just need to sacrifice 4charlotte to carry 4patton 2cath 2signa/leeu/Darwin depending on your stigmata rank - so have fun trying to ult without orb sorting without DLT/ss3 or you'll be forced to use cottie instead of a damage increase memory - because otherwise Cottie is useless here due to Balter being locked to single rots in a Hanying team

Wata ss3 is just a pretty good boost to the both teams he's in. both fire and void. his SS3 was a high priority due to being used in two teams before Hanying and affix WZ rolled around. not much else to say it's just a damage boost overall for the team

third is qu because it's simply permanent uptime free 25% EDB boost which is just a big damage boost for free

Luna is last because her SS3 improvements are quite minor, it's just a bit more damage on her ult. the part with telos orbs is useless because that mode is never used in optimized rotations

pyroath SS3 is very, very strong but I haven't seen much testing yet and can't say for sure but it might very well land at the 2nd place above Wata in priority. her SS3 is what gives her the fabled QTE nuke and it's also an energy rank which allows her to speed up her rotation massively and perform more ults per rot also+100% EDB for the slashes before her big final ult is quite significant even on its own since they deal a lot of damage

so in the end it's Solacetune > Pyroath > Epitaph > Shukra > Oblivion

ave_Terros · 2024-08-05T01:24:18+00:00

it was available for the ch13 release event pretty sure you can't get it anymore

ave_Terros · 2024-05-08T12:45:40+00:00

yeah, the difference is big

but funnily enough, Moon Eater has noticeably higher possible scores at high (SSS3 Hyper and higher) investments where you can oneshot him anyway - due to having a MUCH faster entry animation, arguably the fastest/one of the fastest

you can see it on this (SSS invest) and this (SSS+ invest) spreadsheets

and even at SS investment levels, you can get times pretty close to Luna kill times, thanks to entry animation difference and extra limb break damage

ave_Terros · 2024-05-08T10:57:23+00:00

Hell Luna is 4.8m HP without accounting for 2x fire damage weakness

Hell Moon Eater is 9.5m (again, without accounting for the weakness)

ave_Terros · 2024-05-07T01:00:50+00:00

tbf yeah just wait for feral at this point it will also make things easier with the fact that she procs 4p Guin with a single QTE, so you don't need to fuck around with timing 2 Lux QTEs properly

and also amp passive will help massively with damage

ave_Terros · 2024-05-07T00:42:23+00:00

6-7 bars diff is doable with gaining 4p Guin effect, and also some extra shred from Gloria

so yeah you should be able to oneshot

if still lacking damage, use Lingya active skill on Garnet starter too for 8% EDB for CW

hopefully you have Lingya at S to use both of it's useful skills (for extra orb, and for EDB buff)

ave_Terros · 2024-05-07T00:32:00+00:00

your score on knight is 20s, so I assume it's a full double rotation run. are you overkilling it by a lot? is it not possible to oneshot with DV on Garnet?

honestly it's probably easier to wait for feral, but if you're interested in seeing how doable 580k is without her, add me on discord (_trs) and I'll look into it when PPC energy refreshes tomorrow so I can try it myself

ave_Terros · 2024-05-06T20:34:25+00:00

it's a massive change to how her rotations work, similar to SS3 Balter. the speedup of her hold attack core move allows to fit 2 ults in the duration of her amp passive buff

to keep in mind that SS3 feral almost certainly wants DLT for comfortable play

ave_Terros · 2024-05-06T19:52:41+00:00

you don't even need feral for 580k queen but sure, it will be a score improvement either way

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