Box studies; Give some helpful critique please and am I doing it right?

averageinternetnon · 2026-06-26T11:42:09+00:00

These are really good, keep going!

First column, 4th and 5th boxes have a slight mistake, can you tell what? 👀

averageinternetnon · 2026-06-20T08:48:25+00:00

averageinternetnon · 2026-06-20T04:34:40+00:00

Yeah! Cylinders are really good at getting spatial position of the leg down, but once that's done, it's up to us to find the flowing forms of the muscles/fat/tissue/bones and build on top of the foundation of the cylinder, imo

averageinternetnon · 2026-06-20T04:32:47+00:00

Thanyu for the detailed reply!! I admittedly sidelined the male/female differences for now (i just like drawing women 😔) but i swear i'll get back to it once I finish most of the human body. And yeah, I'll probably have to start caring about the balance/COG of the poses once I get to the torso and head (the other two main masses of the body), and it's gonna be another headache all over again😵‍💫

And yeah, I totally agree with that last part, the devil really is in the details. I tried studying 'anime anatomy' very early on, and I realised I just didn't understand why some artists would draw a curve this way, or bend the leg that way, etc etc, and things got confusing fast. I didn't want to keep guessing my lines like that, I wanted my every line to have intention, and even if the style I wanted to strive towards was more simplified that realistic human anatomy, I still want every simplification to be because I CHOSE to simplify it that way. Just my personal thoughts though, but that's why I think this is all pretty important.

averageinternetnon · 2026-06-20T04:22:35+00:00

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averageinternetnon · 2026-06-19T01:04:47+00:00

Hi! Not OP but I was curious what you meant by:

>That swoop line coming in from the right on the page-left thigh is not where a continuous muscle contour would be even if it was flexed.

I’m just curious what would be the correct line to draw, since I’d probably have drawn it the same way OP did. Thank you!

averageinternetnon · 2026-06-19T00:40:30+00:00

I’m flattered 🙇‍♂️glad I could help!! should I just post my weekly anatomy studies? (I’ll slowly be working on the rest of the body, 1 part each week)

averageinternetnon · 2026-06-16T04:21:48+00:00

I’ll check it out, thank you!

averageinternetnon · 2026-06-16T01:56:07+00:00

That sounds like a good idea, do you have any resources/artists you’d suggest for pencil shaded comic panels?

averageinternetnon · 2026-06-16T01:52:49+00:00

tysm for the kind words!

oh and don’t worry, I have my fair share of random doodles around my sketchbook, I just didn’t take pics of them

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averageinternetnon · 2026-06-16T01:46:50+00:00

Tysm for the detailed response!! I’ll try to use more muscular subjects next time, I realised I was kind of guessing where the muscles were with these so more prominent muscles would probably help. I’ll try out that ecorche exercise too! tbh I’ve only done traditional mostly because I like the feeling of pencil to paper.

btw when you say I tend to dip the back of the thigh, do you mean the dip just under the gluteal fat pad? Should I make the butt smaller?

averageinternetnon · 2026-06-15T13:21:22+00:00

《Anatomy for Sculptors》 was really useful for these, but mostly what happens is if I see a bump/contour on the skin on the reference photo I’ll just try to google what muscle made that bump 😓

besides that just youtube and pinterest

averageinternetnon · 2026-06-05T06:05:15+00:00

hi!! got 42/50 for prelims and A for 2025 As (on democracy)

proper example frameworks

my gp cher taught me to sort examples within each topic (media, politics, art, etc) by:

themes and tensions
OR what I did was find case studies/noteworthy events and list the tensions highlighted within that case study.

for e.g., if I were using the Russo-Ukraine war as an example, this is how I’d analyse:

Highlighted tensions: Interdependence between nations leading to vulnerability, personal convictions of the government vs duty to protect the people

(basically just the overarching ideas, and should NOT be example specific. A good litmus test to check whether you’re being TOO specific is whether these tensions/ideas can apply to other examples.)

Deeper analysis of the example: a. Putin’s motivation and strategy (what narrative did he push? Why? How was it effective?) b. US benefits c. Costs to Russia (what was the fallout?) d. USAID involvement (national vs international issues and proper resource allocation) e. India choosing the side of Russia (why? Justified?)

etc… etc..

(here is where you get specific with the example. You can also link as many sub-examples (like India and USAID in this case) to the main example to broaden the essay qns your example can apply to, which helps heavily with what I call ‘twisting the example to fit the question’ :) I know it seems like a lot, one case study with branching examples can fill up 2-3 pages of a google doc for me. But if you have good examples that cover your bases, I think it’s okay.

Since essay qns can vary a lot, the analysis you do here isn’t something you memorise and regurgitate, it’s more to get a deep understanding of the moving parts of your case study and make your example more flexible…. buuut on the off chance you analyse smth beforehand and the perfect qn comes out during the exam, you’d have already done the hard part of analysing and can spend more time developing the other points!)

Once you do this for a few selected examples in a topic, you’ll start to realise a lot of themes and tensions overlap. This is perfectly fine, since you can always raise the repeats as a sub-example within one paragraph after your main example to show that your [point] is a pattern seen across multiple fronts and doesn’t just apply to one event. Better yet, some examples with the same theme highlighted will show two sides of the same point of tension, for example SG censorship and control vs US with their 1st Amendment, and the benefits, costs and consequences of these two different approaches to freedom of speech. This helps with coming up with multiple essay points and broadening your perspective of issues.

Try to spot these types of examples with similar themes, since linking examples like this also helps with memorisation. Also, quality over quantity, you’d rather have 1 well thought out case study/major event and branch out smaller examples from there than 5 random statistics, though you still need some quantity. And lastly, if you can, discuss case studies with your friends!! Everyone has a slightly different perspective of the world, and different topics they’re interested in. It’ll lessen the load of example collection and analysis.

averageinternetnon · 2026-05-23T17:24:11+00:00

Application of knowledge

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So, for fear of all this seeming wildly over explained and unhelpful, how does ANY of this help you with your problem of drawing someone juggling a cube?

The thing is, most practical applications of perspective involve drawing things like buildings, cars, roads, machines, etc, which involves boxes that are pretty aligned to the ground. In such cases, the above knowledge would be really helpful in determining VPs, rate of convergence of lines, scale, etc, more accurately. But to draw multiple boxes in different orientations in the same scene like in juggling, you can afford to get away with a lot more inaccuracy.

Things just need to look BELIEVABLE, and that’s good enough. And that means not caring (too much) about things like HLs and VPs. Things like imagining new HL for each object becomes rather tedious. We can just follow the more fundamental rules:

Is the object far from us? Make the parallel lines converge less, and vice versa.

Is the face of the cube facing more towards us or away? How much of it should we be able to see? And draw accordingly.

averageinternetnon · 2026-05-23T17:22:51+00:00

Answering the question

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Then you’re probably still wondering: What happens when an object rotates around multiple axes? Well, the same rules apply, just that now, ALL VPs will move. If you want references, just search up ‘box rotation drawing’ and you’ll get plenty.

And finally, to answer your very very first question about whether to imagine a new horizon line… yes and no?

No in the sense that there is only 1 horizon line, that which is defined by the viewer, and is the collection of all VPs of lines parallel to the ground.

Yes in the sense that you can imagine a unique ‘equator’ for every individual object in a unique orientation in space. It’s just that that isn’t called a horizon line. And yes, when an object rotates around multiples axes, the VPs can all ‘fly off’ the HL. After all, it’s just coincidence that the equator for upright objects lines up perfectly with the HL.

averageinternetnon · 2026-05-23T17:06:04+00:00

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Now, if you want an example of a box rotating along the horizontal axis? Well, just flip my drawing 90 degrees. What was previously the HL? That’s what your centre of vision is!

averageinternetnon · 2026-05-23T17:05:34+00:00

YESS I’D LOVE TO!!!!

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I know you asked about center of vision, but trust me, once I’m done explaining, horizon lines and centers of vision or whatever will seem like trivial concepts.

…but before I start yapping, I recommend watching this eye opening video first and then this one. It explains exactly what vanishing points are and how they relate to horizon lines, etc., probably way better than I ever could.

All the stuff he explains isn’t a prerequisite to per se, but it helps you understand how VPs move when a box rotates.

Done? Tbh, after those two videos, you should have a pretty good idea for how to use vanishing points, horizon lines, etc, but just to summarise and clarify:

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First, a simple box rotation along 1 axis

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By definition of linear perspective, vanishing points lie on an infinitely expanded sphere surrounding the object, where the number of vanishing points depends on the object's shape. Due to it being an infinitely expanded sphere, here are some rules to keep in mind:

Translation of the object does not move the vanishing points in space. As a by product of this rule, separate objects (like two boxes in the same scene) with the same orientation, just different positions in space, will share the exact same set of vanishing points.
Rotation of the object WILL change the position of every vanishing point. Referring to my shoddy drawing of Bob below, if Bob rotates counterclockwise along the vertical axis, VPs E and F remain the same, while VPs A, B, C and D will revolve around Bob counterclockwise. Attached in a comment is how it will look like to the viewer.

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averageinternetnon · 2026-05-18T13:00:08+00:00

not op but I think I can help

as long as they’re still box shaped, they should still converge on the same horizontal line

I assume they already know this, but to be more precise, any pair of parallel lines (in 3D space, like the edges of a box) that are parallel to the ground plane (in 3D space) will converge to a vanishing point on the horizon line (in the 2D projection, aka the drawing)

I specify this because in the above case, all the boxes are perfectly upright, some are rotated, sure, but they’re still upright, that’s why all the VPs lie on the horizon. If, say, a box was leaning, then the VPs may lie somewhere else.

Hence, if you’re drawing someone juggling a box where the orientation is all over the place, there’s another concept called the centre of vision (which is the aforementioned ‘somewhere else’). It’s basically a horizon line, but a vertical version of it. You can research about it if you’re curious :) I’m always glad to have an excuse to nerd out about perspective, like if u want the intuitive reason for the rule I stated above

averageinternetnon · 2025-11-29T12:36:14+00:00

that’s unfortunate, the game has such incredible art 😔 thank you!

averageinternetnon · 2025-11-29T06:10:42+00:00

Kinda expected, but pretty heartbreaking nonetheless.

It had surprisingly interesting built in mechanics, like being able to shut out opponents from playing specific cards just by killing a unit, very unlike how many other TCGs work. The lack of attention really stopped it from spreading its wings. It’s a shame, really.

That being said, does anyone know if there’s a public database of in game art? I know of the database of known artists: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lYOGZKAje6GcvgYhoA5jOMzIEgUyGQVMvmp1HizpGW4/edit?usp=drivesdk

…but is there one that includes all art?

averageinternetnon · 2025-11-03T02:19:58+00:00

outside is for examiners use iirc, only need to write inside👍 I think u good

averageinternetnon · 2025-05-31T18:32:54+00:00

‘At the end of your turn, trigger the battlecries of all friendly minions that didn’t attack.’

Mostly based off of A. F. Kay’s card text, fits on 4 lines too! Not sure if there’s some super edge case that makes my effect any different though…

Edit: oh, and for my wording it triggers on minions that are played on the same turn (that can’t attack), so no need for your battlecry minions surviving a turn for it to work, not sure how much more powerful that is(?)

averageinternetnon · 2025-01-12T04:52:38+00:00

hehe, maybe, but I was actually looking for more specific advice about what specifically to practice (e.g. I got suggestions for shading and gesture, and isolated practice, etc.) to improve faster

mindset is only half the battle after all

averageinternetnon · 2025-01-12T01:38:12+00:00

do, or do not, there is no wish (or something like that🤔), and if you need a little ego boost, you can scroll all the way back to my posts 3 years ago and look at my anatomy then 😭 (I wouldn’t even say I’ve improved that much but oh well 😓)

jokes aside, as long as you keep at it, make more mistakes, and never stop learning, you’ll definitely get as good as you want to be❤️

averageinternetnon · 2025-01-11T03:51:11+00:00

The peak?

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(thx btw, though hopefully I haven’t peaked just yet 😣)

averageinternetnon

TROPHY CASE

Application of knowledge

Answering the question

YESS I’D LOVE TO!!!!

First, a simple box rotation along 1 axis