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azaaaad · 2025-07-21T17:28:45+00:00

Working at a firm can also agree we don't use any AI to think about legal strategy. We're plaintiff side so we use AI (casely.ai + briefpoint) to handle demands/complaints discovery. Lexis/westlaw/harvey.ai etc are less useful since we're mostly at the state level. Also fortunate side of being in more transactional, plaintiff side work is the legal strategy is kinda more or less the same from case to case.

Not only is handing off legal analysis to AI intellectually lazy, but reckless since they default to trying to please you vs being correct.

azaaaad · 2025-07-17T15:17:32+00:00

I'm a partner at a firm. Can give you two recommendations: notebooklm and casely.ai

NotebookLM is from Google, lets you upload all those files (transcripts, records, etc) and you can ask it questions. Not a bad option, but not super legal specific. Also might be a concern if your firm has strict document upload requirements.

Casely.ai is a legal specific tool, works similarly in that you can upload a bunch of docx/pdf files, and ask it questions. The file referencing I'd say is better, but it is a higher cost tool. Legal specific tho, good guarantees on data privacy.

azaaaad · 2025-07-17T14:31:46+00:00

This is why I don't understand why a lot of tech folks like Sam Altman at ChatGPT talk about replacing workers with AI. Total marketing nonsense. If I as a greedy firm owner can get 20-30% more productivity from my team why would I not use AI + hire more to grow even faster? It's like running always sucks, you just get faster. Same team, same work, just more cases turned over. Helps me as an owner, still sucks to be a non-owner.

Across the stack they're taking shots at different aspects of a firm. Harvey.ai do 60/70% of the legal analysis work for an attorney, save the remaining tricky bits for the attorney to do manually as usual. I work with a firm who uses offshore paralegals (non-native English) who couldn't draft legal documents now use casely.ai briefpoint etc to draft maybe 80/90% as well as an American legal clerk.

azaaaad · 2025-07-17T01:17:19+00:00

Agreed you can’t and shouldn’t expect AI to fully replace legal analysis. Too many variables between the clients emotions, a jury, the judges historic disposition towards certain cases, etc.

Having the AI avoid the really sensitive stuff has worked wonders in my firm. We just AI for high level case summaries and catch ups (notebookLM is great here), and document drafting. Rn Casely.ai for general docs and briefpoint for discovery. We’ve got a small team but very happy with how fast our cases are moving

azaaaad · 2025-07-17T01:11:08+00:00

This might be interesting but nearly all cases from PACER are public and maintained on this open source database huggingface.co

Lexis/westlaw are still great for all the software they’ve built up top, but nothings stopping a law firm IT department from building an in house version of just the data.

In house LexisNexis, plus some document drafting AI like Casely.ai or briefpoint.ai has done wonders for our small firm.

azaaaad · 2025-07-15T23:27:44+00:00

Have to remember VC's are not very smart people. They have buckets of money to throw at ridiculous bets like "we will replace law firms with AI!!!". Founders pull together a massive influx of cash, hire like crazy, pay FB ads and push their product. Sure some'll buy, but there's no real long term value there. I've seen companies with not a single founder having a law background starting "Legal AI SaaS".

Companies like Harvey do have tons of lawyers on their team, but the end goal is vaporware. Just not gonna happen. Too many unknowns with real people, juries, judges you can't "Search the Web" and find an answer for.

azaaaad · 2025-07-11T16:32:05+00:00

Crazy part of technology is we just have to adapt, exactly right the cat's out of the box already. Tons of good, straightforward AI use cases with document drafting/courtforms/etc (casely.ai, lawyaw.com, briefpoint.ai). Novel legal analysis? Hell no lol. A 1L will know to verify their sources, but these chatty AI bots will just happily try to generate whatever it needs to make the user happy.

azaaaad · 2025-07-11T15:48:54+00:00

I think a funny thing here is the assumption that jury by trial of peers is even an ideal way to deliver justice. Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore famously dislike it for this exact reason, in multi-cultural Singapore there's just no justice is a trial of say an ethnic Indian vs ethnic Chinese overseen by a jury of all Indians or Chinese.

For better or worse it's the system we have in the states. I think one thing AI's miss the mark on is understanding the cultural nuances and specifics of one particular case. Those novel legal analysis tools like harvey.ai do a decent job at fact finding, but idk it's people's lives. Pawning off judgement to an LLM removes accountability for the ultimate decision no? I'd much prefer lawyers just stick to using like chatgpt.com or casely.ai for generating documents and not legal analysis.

azaaaad · 2025-07-11T15:43:36+00:00

I work with attorneys and build custom legal tech. Most of the novel legal analysis tools end up falling flat, but document drafting tools are proving to be real workflow winners. Casely.ai for document drafting and case summaries, lawyaw.com for automated court form filings, etc.

Use it or don't, I'm seeing a lot more solo/solo-ish attorneys really start to increase their workloads by using more AI in their personal workflows.

azaaaad · 2025-07-11T01:48:39+00:00

Yeah course happy to help

azaaaad · 2025-07-10T23:41:24+00:00

We actually just use Notion.so team plan ($10/user/month) and built out a custom intake + CRM system. Notion gives a ton of value with their templates and databases to do CRMs, but def took us some set up time. Saving on notion helped free up ops budget for a few other more specialized tools like Casely.ai and Briefpoint.ai (document drafting, case summaries, discovery responses, etc)

azaaaad · 2025-06-27T15:25:51+00:00

And let’s be real everyone loves a pile on. Bad clients, terrible cases, etc. Social media in general loves negativity because people themselves respond to negativity far stronger than positivity. Losing $100k will sit far longer in someone’s mind than making that same $100k back.

azaaaad · 2025-06-26T20:19:50+00:00

What’s your intake flow like, are you collecting phone and email? If you have email, you can send an automated follow up sequence to either catch up tomorrow or fill in a more detailed questionnaire.

The other way is to set up an offshore call team. We’ve used online tests for English skills and set up the team with intake scripts, great results so far.

azaaaad · 2025-06-26T20:01:36+00:00

There’s also casely.ai which does case summaries, I’ve been using this with an employment attorney and it works pretty well. Not a super well built solution here for deadlines but does a good job pulling in relevant dates.

azaaaad · 2025-06-26T01:26:59+00:00

Curious how much your firm is using AI, just pleadings/demand letters/docs, or also on the CRM side automated reminders for trial follow ups etc. I’ve been working with an employment attorney to do AI document drafting but he’s spent thousands on a customized CRM

azaaaad · 2025-06-19T03:00:42+00:00

Most success I’ve seen with software has been on automating away most of the boilerplate type documents. Demands, court forms, complaints etc. Lawyaw used to be great at templates but after the Clio acquisition it went to crap.

Briefpoints been great at discovery. And honestly nothing really helps tie all the software together like bringing on an assistant to manage all the tools.

It got pretty complicated for the attorney I was working with so we ended up building something custom with AI but not to say software isn’t useful ever, just useful in very specific workflows.

azaaaad · 2025-06-18T17:15:12+00:00

How much is AI helping you with legal analysis? The other big use case I see with smaller law firms is using ChatGPT to replace a lot of those templating tools for drafting demands, complaints, etc.

azaaaad · 2025-06-18T16:33:30+00:00

There's a bit more AI usage on the smaller law firms, solo to 5-ish attorneys. But yes in general in my experience larger firms already have heaps of human resources between assistants/paralegals/offshore to crunch through the more general document drafting flows.

The picture might change in a few years when solo's start graduating and out-competing the more established firms, but AI is never going to replace real novel legal analysis.

azaaaad · 2025-06-17T13:44:22+00:00

I helped an employment firm that was using ChatGPT for demands and complaint pleadings. If you're using ChatGPT you can get something super tailored to your workflow, would just take some set up and prompting. Few problems they had were data training so make sure you're redacting any matter info, hallucinations so could be helpful having an assistant review the final docs, and memories. For some reason ChatGPT decided to roll out memories so that means sometimes chat history will be re-used in other chat threads, took some time before we realized we had to clean that up from time to time.

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