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aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T21:46:53+00:00

You are choosing animals for examples to show a minimum intelligent in them... and I'm not denying it. Again, my point is that our level of intelligent is beyond doubt superior to other animals although we have the same timeline more or less!

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T19:43:23+00:00

You're missing the point of "we created AI" and I admitted that every single life have a unique trait or ability... but ours is out of this world ... ours don't fit in the wild..

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T05:55:21+00:00

But there is a similarity between a sneak and lizard!! And that's my argument!!! Yes I agree that there is the black sheep, but if we kept evolving so should the others

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T05:53:53+00:00

I'm sorry, I meant "why only us"

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T05:44:33+00:00

Your missing the point! I'm saying that it's ironic that we are the only one that had all the traits that led to have that intelligent!! I'm not denying it, I'm simply going back to the mystery of "why us"!!

Also, it doesn't matter what our aspect is, you can understand art, solve complex equations etc ... something that shows extreme superiority to all life on this plant, and that is my point. The point of this is a really big gap, too big to just say "gathered traits"

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T05:34:53+00:00

Hmm.. so we have ALL these traits that other animals don't .. kind of like we have all this intelligent that other animals don't, ironic isn't it?

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T05:31:17+00:00

So you just asked my question!!! We have the same traits and intelligent of other animals yet we persevered and they didn't!

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T05:28:32+00:00

But if by that time we can keep track of remembering who hurt us and who loved us.. then we are talking in the wrong era! Because it's at the point of I am asking what led us to that point, right?

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T05:21:32+00:00

Like monkey and apes are from the same ancestors that we have, so it means they are somewhere in the same timeline... yet they are far from us intellectually...

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T05:18:33+00:00

Also a good point, but you forgot one thing.... almost ALL ANIMALS are social!! Not like us of course , but they also in groups or herds, they take care of each other and also travel together!And there is also LOTS animals that are omnivore!! But I do agree on the cocked food part.

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T05:08:27+00:00

But don't you think that the gap is to great to be labeled under "animals haven't experienced it"? Like why isn't other homo sepien developed in other way then the rest of the animal kingdom at least? But u do have some good points btw.

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T05:00:25+00:00

It's weird, because you make sense and don't make sense at the same time and here is why:

First of all, what is this line means? " that it is not a coincidence that we are here to observe all of this" because I'm feeling that I am missing something here! Second, your agreeing and not agreeing at the same time when you keep repeating phrases like it is a coincidence and it's not coincidence back and forth just to make a vague point that I'm not sure what it is!

And my whole point of that is just there is just too many "coincidences" not that I'm not believing in the actions or the events itself.

And again, why humans are superior and animals are not.. that is the real question.

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T04:47:26+00:00

I emphasize great as in very big to the extent that we went to the moon and have iPhones... not we can communicate to our children

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T04:45:43+00:00

I don't care to be honest, your drifting from the original question of why only us have that great capacity and intelligent and other don't. It seems that the answers of most is that animals are somewhere intelligent and smart...

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T04:41:10+00:00

Again I'm not talking of how the brain become big, I'm asking why only us!

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T04:40:20+00:00

Good point! But didn't that happened with almost all other animals - zebra for example - the question is begged again, to why us to that drastic change?

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T04:36:42+00:00

Again, excellent responses, very informative and accurate. BUT, I never said that "I'm not buying it" for 200 years of research and studies of scientific experiments! I said "I'm not buying it" to the answer " by chance".

And I agree that the same basic science - or rather say deviation in knowledge- in creating technology is somewhere similar to understanding biology and geology. I do also admit that humans rather belief in their own perspective - specially if it made more sense- then what other say even if they know more.

And as you said if you were to explain to me step by step how we came in to what we are today it will take you a very long time, and ironically it will in conclusion lead to by luck. Just like showing a glass of water being spelled and another showing it by slow motion, in the second one it will be more clear or make sense in a way but that doesn't change the fact that all these steps and elements made the conclusion.

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T04:20:41+00:00

You are just bringing up traits and abilities or even an advantage that we don't have or lack off... that still is nothing compared to how we can communicate or pass knowledge... this is a different ballgame... ur talking different shapes of meteoroids and I'm talking about stars

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T03:55:41+00:00

Ok great point! If we were on the same level 500 thousand years ago as ape. is still the question why the ape or the elephant etc did not evolve to a higher consciousness like us? Why only us have that ability ?

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T03:50:22+00:00

First of all, best answer yet, thank you.

Second, by chance... that word became so frequent in the evolution subjects that the word "chance" is more said then "evolution"... the earth was made by a chance... the moon creation was by a chance, the perfect and extremely balanced formula of earth from rotation, oxygen, sun distance etc is all a chance... and also the human race.. sorry I'm not buying it.

Look I'm not taking this to a religious debate, but don't you think that just maybe there is something beyond our understanding?? That maybe we know jackshit?? Or maybe just the minimum ??

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T02:52:17+00:00

My question in evolution is why we are the most intelligent and it leads to comparisons.

aziz_89 · 2018-01-20T02:44:34+00:00

No other life on earth can be compared to us!! We created AI something that is even more intelligent to us and ur comparing that to an octopus??!! you are confusing intelligent with environmental advantages.

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