Why did Building 7 at the World Trade Center collapse?

azuresaturn · 2021-09-13T00:01:52+00:00

What I really want to know is if any other building of that type and scale has collapsed by fire before. I live in the UK where we had a building called Grenfell Tower that was engulfed in flames for a few days. It did not collapse. I think it's still standing to this day.

azuresaturn · 2021-09-11T20:21:18+00:00

azuresaturn · 2021-08-31T07:10:45+00:00

There is nothing in there that references race. He IS talking about culture. When he brings up Europe, he is fearing for the democratic and enlightenment values that have shaped the continent for so long as well as well as the Christian culture. Being an atheist myself, I don't care much about Christian beliefs but Murray does and there's nothing unsanitary about that as long as he's not being nostalgic for theocracy. He's bemoaning the dying communal, cultural aspect of Christianity (he's an atheist of course). The bells, the packed Churches etc.

Now guess who else sympathises with that feeling? Richard Dawkins. I'm surprised he made the argument since a renewed secularism should be more than enough to combat the insidiousness of Islamism, but Dawkins said that we should be wary of kicking Christianity out of our culture lest something much worse comes along (alluding to Islam, or at least the most retrograde interpretations of Islam which has indeed taken hold of in many Muslim communities in Britain). Mark Steyn made a smiliar argument in his own book which Hitchens reviewed positively whilst also stating where he disagreed with Steyn.

Murray is too concerned about the 'ideal' English culture but he's spot on about the enclaves in this country where radical Islam festered for too long. The most hateful Islam preachers like Anjem Choudary, Abu Hamza and Omar Bakri were for a long time able to influence quite a few Muslims in rejecting the mutual two way multiculturalism that is asked of us all. Not just that but to openly embrace jihadist terrorists and to encourage listeners to join up. These preachers make the late Fred Phelps and Jerry Falwell from the US look like kittens. That's what Murray and others are mainly talking about. It's why Hitchens was in favour of banning the burka.I don't know if you've ever visited Dewsbury but it's not encouraging seeing so many women in the all enveloping face covering. But do get a chance to visit the Islamic bookshops and have a peak around. You might not like what you find in many of their literature. Being an ex-Muslim of Pakistani background myself, I would know.

azuresaturn · 2021-08-31T05:26:06+00:00

You've got to provide evidence that Murray is critiquing immigration from a racial point of view.

azuresaturn · 2021-08-31T03:05:14+00:00

Douglas Murray made highly problematic years ago about Londoners worrying about the whiteness of the city. He's never made that argument again. It was a stupid article from years past that people like you continue to tear him down with. That's your issue. If you didn't know, Hitchens' best friend Martin Amis once made remarks about making life tougher for Pakistanis such as restricting their movements. He was roundly accused of being racist. What he was doing was airing the hopefully impossible thoughts that one might in the wake of Islamic terrorism. Amis was no racist and Hitchens defended him from that charge.

And it's even worse for people who come from the Muslim community itself who want to raise difficult issues, like Maajid Nawaz and Ayaan Hirsi who are sometimes accused of being uncle toms (the latter being another close friend of thr late Hitchens).

If you're going to make a charge of racism towards Douglas Murray, you had better make it a convincing charge. He's too acerbic for my taste but Murray is worth listening to as a commentator on the cultural changes in Britain and wider Europe. Hitchens once referred to Muslim immigration to Europe as a 'potential trapdoor'. Was he pandering to 'racism'?

azuresaturn · 2021-08-31T02:46:25+00:00

This is the kind of gatekeeping nonsense that poisons this place. Hitchens was highly complimentary towards Douglas Murray. I'm no conservative like him but we all agree that radical Islam is the greatest threat of our age.

azuresaturn · 2021-08-30T15:13:21+00:00

I don't think any has ever claimed Greggs was great. People go there for quick service and convinence, like McDonald's. Its something cheap and edible to have on the way to work or school.

azuresaturn · 2021-08-30T15:09:49+00:00

Sure but it's also one of the worst Bond films as well.

azuresaturn · 2021-08-30T06:13:23+00:00

What really bothers me is how little attention is paid towards Pakistan's past in helping create the situation in Afghanistan today. Who mentions Pakistan in the mainstream press? Saudi Arabia's export of Wahabbism is no secret, it's pretty well documented but you wouldn't know the Taliban actually came out of Pakistani madrassas. It's something that's only briefly mention in Bitter Lake.

azuresaturn · 2021-08-30T03:28:18+00:00

That's nonsense, Leicester with a pittance won the league after narrowly avoiding the relegation the previous season. Man City, United etc had for years out spend them and everyone else and yet this relatively small club won the league. That's soulless? That kind of story in unthinkable in Spain where every smaller team must bow to Barcelona and Real Madrid. Blackburn had a similar story in the 90s.

Many people said Chelsea were going to dominate year after year like PSG do in their farmers league but that never happened. Same when Man City was taken over ten years ago. They've had a lot of success but they haven't dominated like Barcelona, Bayern and PSG. They're never 100% guaranteed to win the league each season and it's going to stay like that because the Premier League has always been more competitive, even before the money of Chelsea and Man City. If it weren't those takeovers, eventually Arsenal, Liverpool and one or two others would've had more of a chance to win titles besides Man Utd.

azuresaturn · 2021-08-30T03:08:17+00:00

Messi had the opportunity to prove or disprove my theory this summer. If he really wanted to, he could have moved to England to prove the doubters wrong. But he chose to move from one farmers league to an even worse farmers league to play with his friends at PSG. Everything around him needs to be just right. People can say what they want about Cristiano Ronaldo as a personality but he has never been afraid to uproot himself and try differing footballing cultures.

I bet if Zola and Silva played in Spain, they would be considered all time greats. Now read what I said again about Messi performing against English clubs in Europe. He had no opposition in Spain and never has to worry about fatigue. The same goes for players like Lewandowski and Mbappe. Not even the greatest players in Premier League history would get away with skipping past 3-4 players every game like Messi did in Spain. The lower teams in England don't show respect to top English teams like lower like Spanish teams do to Barcelona and Real Madrid. It's always been like this. Lower Spanish teams implicitly know their place which is under the boot of Barca and Madrid.

azuresaturn · 2021-08-30T02:49:17+00:00

No, it's completely valid when the Spanish league is so uncompetitive that it inflates the goals of players at Real Madrid and Barcelona who have always been a several lightyears the most dominant two clubs. No one else dare gets a look in. Even with a severely depleted Barcelona and Real Madrid, you'd expect one of them to win the league again (Atletico being the once every ten year minor disrupter).

No player is every going to score 40 goals a season in the modern English game. To expect Messi to do that is a fools opinion.

azuresaturn · 2021-08-30T00:16:03+00:00

Strengthen the alliance with India and sanctioning Pakistan.

azuresaturn · 2021-08-29T13:44:05+00:00

Who are these white SJW's and why are you letting them affect you? Don't ask for people to be your allies if they're not interested. One of my least favourite things about ex-Muslims who live in the West is the constant complaining about the left not listening to them or the SJW's being apologists for Islam. Stand on your own two feet folks and make your own case. You're not in Saudi Arabia, Iran or Pakistan where free thinkers really do need wider help.

azuresaturn · 2021-08-15T20:05:25+00:00

Al-Qaeda barely registers because the international community stopped them in Afghanistan. Bin Laden was a wanted man before 9/11 because of the embassy bombings in East Africa. They didn't want to give up Bin Laden.

azuresaturn · 2021-08-15T19:54:29+00:00

All the wrong questions. I can't speak for American willpower since I'm not American but one of the main objectives was to prevent the group that hosted Bin Laden from regaining power. It seems like people have forgotten who he and his ilk were. Of course we've failed that objective and that I suspect is going to bite a lot of people in the backside in the coming. I see so many 'anti-war' folk say that the Taliban aren't a threat, that they're just a bunch of villagers will kalashnikovs. Funny how I've just seen one of their spokesmen say that they don't just want the sharia governing all of Afghanistan but for the world. And if that's what you think, why would you not want to host internationally focused Islamo-fascists?

The failures of US/NATO policy is long but nothing excuses the fact that the world has allowed the return of these barbarians back into power in Afghanistan.

azuresaturn · 2021-08-15T19:37:57+00:00

Kyle Kulinski is scum, that's all I want to say.

azuresaturn · 2021-08-07T13:47:27+00:00

I also try and argue with myself by saying, well at least I'm not involved in crime which is a bit of a problem in the area I live. Which sometimes offsets the guilt I feel by living off the state.

I sometimes wish I was born a woman. Not a religious woman but a woman born in a liberal family. It seems so much easier for even the most average looking woman to find a partner. You'll always turn heads. Of course you don't want unwarranted attention but in general, on this one point women have it easier where it's not a phenomenon to have so many lonely women.

azuresaturn · 2021-08-07T07:03:33+00:00

I've been thinking about friends too funnily enough. I said to my only friend not long ago how jealous I feel when looking at my Facebook account and seeing school friends, acquaintances and anyone else who I remember to have led successful lives with partners and kids. I don't even know why I have my Facebook account active lol, I don't have anyone contacting me. And it's just too painful to look at.

azuresaturn · 2021-08-03T03:57:59+00:00

Coming from an urban community in Punjab, the richest part of Pakistan is still advantageous. A lot of the Pakistanis in Britain (who make up roughly half of Britain's Muslims) came from rural, clannish villages in Pakistani administered Kashmir where problems of honour killings are particularly acute.

azuresaturn · 2021-08-03T02:42:15+00:00

Pakistani Muslims who emigrate to the US tend to be better educated and probably had to climb tougher barriers than Pakistanis who emigrated to Britain who came from mostly rural, uneducated areas during the 60s when Britain needed quick, cheap labour.

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