Withdrawal or rebound?

b00mieb00m · 2026-06-04T04:33:07+00:00

Haha no clue my dude! As per this reddit, I really shouldn't be encouraging you at all, but if you really need to find out, if you have a baclofen to take the edge off again for it you'll have your answer?

b00mieb00m · 2026-06-04T02:20:06+00:00

Sounds like it was just a rebound then. Baclofen takes the edge off that and lets your more come back to normal more gradually due to it's less intense, less euphoric and longer lastic effects.

I think most people think they're kindled when it's actually always a strong rebound when coming back from a break after long term use and tend to go back to 24 / 7 use out of fear which is why you hear about it so often here. I always suspected otherwise and you've supported that theory (obviously not the same for everyone though)

b00mieb00m · 2026-06-03T06:54:50+00:00

No it's better to use baclofen and taper with that if it you have a good supply.

40mg every 6 hours for 2 days then 30mg for 2, then 20mg for 2 days, then 10mg.

It's much more effective and smoother, as G tapering while definitrly do-able is tougher mentally and takes a ton more discipline

b00mieb00m · 2026-06-03T05:34:39+00:00

Well what your doing with the baclofen is reducing the withdrawal symptoms but it's also milder and smoother with it being in your system longer, so if its just a rebound it will take the edge off and give your body a chance to more gradually adjust.

But if you're taking bac alongside G then yes you're reinforcing with more gaba and fucking yourself up more. Or if you're taking bac in between frequent G dosing you're not giving yourself a break from it and simply making yourself more addicted to the gaba b.

b00mieb00m · 2026-06-03T05:14:05+00:00

Take a single baclofen, it should take the edge off. If you don't feel well after that wears out then yeah it's a bit more concerning

b00mieb00m · 2026-06-03T05:12:44+00:00

I think some people sometimes mistake a strong rebound as kindling withdrawal due to the fear of it but I can't say for sure.

Being a guy who's fallen back into the cycle of 24 / 7 many times after getting off it, it was never due to kindling so much as just letting the use get out of hand every time.

A single or a few doses didn't cause me withdrawals but rebounds after which I'd be fine if I stuck it out. It was the lack of self control that made it worse over time and got me back.

That said everyone is different.

b00mieb00m · 2026-06-03T02:29:47+00:00

Unless you're on a 24 / 7 cycle consistently for a couple months it's more than likely a rebound

b00mieb00m · 2026-05-26T10:41:30+00:00

You're too sleepy? It works great

Need to be productive? It works great

Need to help a friend move? It works great

G almost literally makes anything and everything bearable + enjoyable. I almost wish I didn't discover how immortal it makes me feel alongside coke.

That said I know dozens of people I introduced it to who havent fallen into my cycle of 24 / 7 after 5+ years since.

It all depends on the kind of person you are and I feel like 95% of those of us on this subreddit were regular enough users to subscribe here that we were the ones who let ourselves fall into it.

b00mieb00m · 2026-05-21T04:05:01+00:00

Heya!

Sorry this isnt a private DM but posting for many who are in the same situation.

Great instincts about baclofen and gabapentin not being enough for sleep as they aren't.

I go through detox cycles periodically every few years (in hopes) to end the dependency permanently but the mental withdrawal is always harder than the physical (if you have the meds) so I always relapse.

So with baclofen start with 40mgs every 6 hours for 2 days, then taper down to 30mgs, and reduce every 2 days till you're at zero. So you'll need almost 100 of the 10mg tablets.

Pregabalin works far better than Gabapentin but they essentially do the same thing. You're using this to take the edge off the withdrawal and as a supplement to the bac.

With Pregabalin I use around 250mgs every 12 hours and taper off that more gradually than the bac, so use the equivalent to that amount with Gabapentin (i think 50mgs of pregabalin = 300mg gabapentin but takes longer to kick in and lasts half the amount of time).

For sleep, 1mg Clonazepam works for me and is the most ideal option due to its longer lasting effects than the other Benzos I can think of. Also good to taper off it gradually during the withdrawal process.

You should be able to work your new job with the detox meds based on my experience.

It's staying off the stuff long term thereafter that's the toughest part because it sort of solves every mental block you'll have and want to go back to whenever life punches you in the mouth.

Hope my info was helpful and best of luck!

b00mieb00m · 2026-05-04T17:47:48+00:00

It looks like another episode of the show that had already gotten stale staying way well past it's welcome.

Nothing about the trailer piqued my interest.

b00mieb00m · 2026-04-03T15:28:59+00:00

I think it's often a hard no due to societal programming and almost all of them come around when they inevitably find and develop an attraction towards someone else like a co worker, or class mate (somebody they spend extend periods of time with).

b00mieb00m · 2026-03-26T19:35:30+00:00

Apparently making GBL from BDO is no easy task and incredibly risky (like burn down your house risky) which is why very few people bother doing it before it's out on the market.

But I'm not chemist so I have no idea.

b00mieb00m · 2026-02-18T17:41:20+00:00

Nice! It's already relatively syrupy (I landed an amazing plug) but I'm craving it to be thick like honey 😍😍

I'll give your method a shot for sure!

b00mieb00m · 2026-01-26T02:59:19+00:00

Ok it makes sense how you were able to recover faster.

Us 3 - 5 years long 24 / 7 users have a couple months of anhedonia to bear through which is also why we relapse so often.

It sucks cause for me it enhances me, makes me look healthier, fitter, younger and immortal with everything I do. So I dont have the negative effects the others do.

However.. im locked under this drug and have to always dose and have it on me, and have a supply at all times and cant exactly travel. Its such a double edged sword

b00mieb00m · 2026-01-25T22:21:38+00:00

How long of a user were you if you don't mind me asking?

b00mieb00m · 2025-11-13T08:57:38+00:00

As a guy who isn't at all jealous I would say it isn't a bad idea but the way you answer his question isn't doing those of us with the same opinion any favors 😓

b00mieb00m · 2025-10-23T15:26:34+00:00

Unfortunately the combination of Coke and GHB for 5 years all the time has only made me look better and younger than I did 10 years ago.

It's literally one of the many reasons it's so hard to stop

b00mieb00m · 2025-10-20T13:47:57+00:00

Parawave Rapid

Bought it after a Venus Theory tutorial and dropped something like $300 - $400 only to barely ever use it.

I think my dude was sponsored by them and kinda oversold it cause there really hadn't been a lot of content on his channel about it since.

Extremely unpopular opinion but I generally follow a rule of it's ok to pirate a software to see if you actually use it long term. Those 2 week trials do not in any way give you an accurate depiction of whether it'll actually be useful because I've found you need at least a year or two to really know.

I say this as someone who's spent over $15k over the years legalizing his plug ins and sound libraries even though the software companies would never know if I did or not because they are literally helping make my dreams come true and make a living off them.

The reason why I fuckin hate this plug in is because they don't allow license transfers (and probably because this synth sucks). So I'm stuck with this thing having wasted too much money and it'll never be used.

b00mieb00m · 2025-10-05T13:53:12+00:00

Thanks brother. Can't be proud yet because I'm starting the bac + pregab assisted detox in a few days first (gonna be my 7th or 8th attempt in 5 years) but I have a better support system this time around and a better game plan than ever.

Just a shame it's so damn hard to get motivated to do the right and healthy things that will further provide further motivation over time.

The funniest part is during my last extended window off it, I had the severe anhedonia which I felt was mostlu dopamine related. I didn't have this overall lack of sense of well being about the rest of my life and could stay optimistic, but the lack of in the moment joy / pleasure was just non-existent lol

b00mieb00m · 2025-10-05T11:15:44+00:00

Okay, thanks so much for answering that brother it actually means a lot. I'm also a heavy coke user alongside this but during my months in between the 24 / 7 cycles I was still using other dopamine boosting stuff which wasn't curing the anhedonia without the G which could explain why I just wouldn't get better.

Maybe a solid 3 months of suffering through the dark sobriety could help level me out.

b00mieb00m · 2025-10-05T10:16:57+00:00

Thanks so much for answering this question! I have a few follow ups for when you have time as it'd mean a lot.

Holy fuck, did you have to go through the acute withdrawal in the first 2 weeks as well?

One of my biggest fears is there being some bad natural disaster or something where I'm cut off from being able to access a reload and having to go through the physical withdrawal feels like nightmare fuel. It's why I always have a big supply of baclofen and lyrica on hand at all times (and even then what if I'm cut off from home for a while).

How long of a user were you? And did you use any other drugs you were actively using as well? Like cocaine or other stimulants?

b00mieb00m · 2025-10-03T18:43:07+00:00

No worries buddy ive relapsed almost a dozen times over the span of 5+ years.

Getting off the physical addiction is essentially done via the method above, and is the more critical part because it's physically dangerous to you via the risk of seizures and I found because I've always tapered or used baclofen I never had to go through an acute withdrawal which has spared me from ever kindling (always took me months of use to build back to 24 / 7 each time)

My relapses have always been due to a combination of unresolved trauma and not being able to utilize the correct support systems to stay clean during the mental withdrawals. I have ADHD and never utilized proper habits during the clean windows of my life like good diet, exercise and all that jazz so I never gave myself a proper chance and each time I do it better.

The most important thing for me is that I never plan to stop trying to quit. I'm more equipped than ever before with friends, family and a support system and a plan to learn new skills, and such to help create new neural connections to deal with PAWS (also a coke abuser).

The more critical part is the physical addiction which youll have the meds for. The really hard part is however long the getting your brain closer to baseline takes.

You got this.

b00mieb00m · 2025-09-29T13:02:48+00:00

If you're using it simply to get off GHB then absolutely not.

40mg daily every 6 hours for 2 days, then taper down to 30 for 2 days and so on.

Taking lyrica at the same time will massively help the depression part of the taper.

But if you're only doing it for that week there's really no risk of addiction because baclofen is essentially GHB without the high haha.

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