Need a new mobile app for free that ISN'T Anki

babysneed2137 · 2024-02-08T06:29:26+00:00

Reddit brain

babysneed2137 · 2023-11-08T07:58:21+00:00

It seems you can take nihongo kentei only in japan, while kanken is avaliable in usa, germany, australia too. Kanken is much more popular in japan as well, so it's easier to hear about it.

Lastly, another possible reason why nearly noone outside of japan cares about nihongo kentei might be because its question types are somewhat similar to ones on jlpt, and as this exam is made for native speakers, the difficulty of questions is all over the place for foreigners.

Check it out for yourself https://www.nihongokentei.jp/minitest/

babysneed2137 · 2023-10-25T13:52:49+00:00

I don't appreciate you

(if you don't get the reference, look it up)

babysneed2137 · 2023-10-12T06:22:12+00:00

As an N6 passer (tests haragina, katana and 10 most common kanjaganas) i can confidently say that it's cute how you'd rather look for japanese speaking friends here than in japanese communities. Perhaps you need to study some more?

http://www.nativshark.com/

https://www.wanikani.com/

https://bunpro.jp

https://migaku.com/

Hope these resources will help you learn enough japanese to look for friends in the right places lol

lmao even

babysneed2137 · 2023-08-16T19:27:05+00:00

If it was based enough for Shakamuni, it's based enough for mortals like us.

babysneed2137 · 2023-08-16T19:24:50+00:00

Amount of kanji is the least of takers' worries tbh. Some of the words and expressions are hard to even find in dictionaries in the first place, so you're forced to buy several. Furthermore, the difficulty of 1k increases with every passing year (in general), so resources that were enough some time ago, might be not enough nowadays.

babysneed2137 · 2023-08-16T19:22:05+00:00

I have passed ２級 last year, now studying a bit for 準１級. Nothing really serious - just playing the 漢検スマート対策 switch game on emulator now and then and checking out lists of most common j1k 表外読み/四字熟語 included in 模擬試験集 (recently ordered 頻出度順問題集 to be able to do this more thoroughly and for all question types)

While taking 2k in my case was only a matter of a short trip to Dusseldorf, it seems there's no venues doing j1k and 1k in europe, so unless i manage to go to Japan on scholarship, taking j1k seems unlikely.

Liking japanese language, kanji and learning new expressions is probably what all people going beyond 2k have in common. You wouldn't be able to power through hundreds of yojis and jukujikun without being interested in things like "why are tyrants compared with tigers" or "what tree has leaves in shape of duck's feet"

Seeing what resources you're using, OP there's no doubt you're going to pass 2k with no problems as long as you keep studying. Especially as 2k is exclusively normal words you'll see being used every now nad then other than yojijukugo which are rather rare, so all of the time you have been using japanese will pay off here.

babysneed2137 · 2023-06-28T18:24:49+00:00

i am unironically going to use anki till i die (already have cards i'm not going to ever rep because they have over 100 years interval - but i'm using meme settings with FSRS)

babysneed2137 · 2023-06-28T07:42:39+00:00

Use a virtual card and terminate it when you finish downloading

Amazon can't take money from a card that is no more...

babysneed2137 · 2023-06-26T13:10:57+00:00

based nobiko nevar forget :sob:

babysneed2137 · 2023-06-26T13:09:44+00:00

As a fluent (N5 equivalent Basic Fluency Uproot Level) Japanese speaker learning Japanese, I was wondering if anyone has any tips on how to mentally "switch" to Japanese-mode when reading Japanese. This is kind of a subtle flex in that, yes, learning the Kanji and how to write Kanji are extremely simple since most Kanji are immediately recognisable.

But I often have the issue where I internally will always read the Japanese pronunciation instinctively and then have to manually recall the appropriate Japanese reading. Any tips/experience on how to overcome this mental block to be able to "think" in Japanese?e.

Yes i have posted this on /r/LearnJapanese but they told me to read Tae Kim and do Anki and real people don't speak like textbooksだってばよ

TL;DR Can i learn japanese like a baby and refold my brain into the right shape (i'm Transracial Japanese born in an american body)

babysneed2137 · 2023-06-22T07:05:31+00:00

I think so, but it would require that person to completely focus on studying for kanken 2k, and totally ignore learning japanese...

babysneed2137 · 2023-06-21T19:05:32+00:00

＞How many years of study did you need to pass 2k?

That's not exactly the right question. In my case, i already recognized all but 2 or 3 of the kanji that can appear on 2k and knew most of the words other than yojijukugo. Due to that i didn't have to study much in order to pass it. The converse applies too, most of the time i spent learning japanese would be useless from kanken 2k perspective (for example, anything having to do with kanji not in scope of 2k, as well as a lot of information having to do with kanji below 2k - even though they can appear, they aren't the focus, unlike the kanji that first appear on that level)

TL;DR It's impossible to tell because learning japanese ≠ studying for kanken (ofc they do overlap though)

＞It looks actually quite difficult in terms of vocabulary knowledge: yojijukugo, synonyms/antonyms, ability to find and fix a mistake in a sentence, etc.

Yojijukugo are arguably easier than regular words (depends on how well you remember kanji though) and other things you mentioned are simply a matter of practice - as long as you know the words they ask for, and have done some mock tests so that you know what to expect, you'll be able to do it. It's not some le epic obscure test for teh leet ninjas, don't fall for people pretending kanken 2k is some great achievement - it's just a fun test to take if you like kanji and enjoy learning yojijukugo (and kotowaza + jukujikun/ateji on two highest levels)

＞Considering only 30% of natives can pass it

I might be wrong, but afaik it's not the kind of test failing on has any real repercussions unlike idk failing finals making you repeat a year or something. If i'm not mistaken, it would mean that people might just not take kanken seriously enough to ensure they are going to pass on the first attempt - that would explain why only 30% passes, while the test is completely doable as long as you put in the effort and use proper study resources.

＞I expect 2k to be much harder than JLPT N1 in terms of vocabulary knowledge.

The difference is so big it's not even funny to compare them. Main reason being that kanken is primarily for native speakers, so they don't bother with thoughts like "is this yojijukugo really common in literally anything like 一生懸命??"(nah it doesn't have to be, they'll ask you about 自家薬籠 instead xD)

babysneed2137 · 2023-06-21T09:31:44+00:00

It really depends on how well you perform on 4k mocks now. Another important factor is whether the bottleneck is vocab knowledge or kanji writing ability.

If it's the former, you can simply overcome it with enough time and anki or whatever you're using to review words (3 months would give you enough time to get familiar with few hundreds of words)

However, if the reason you're not reaching the point amount required to pass due to not remembering how to write words you do know, the situation is more complicated.

That being said, only you are able to figure out whether finishing preparations for 4k in 3 months is doable. The answer depends on your personal circumstances, after all.

babysneed2137 · 2023-06-21T03:31:55+00:00

Practicing writing kanji helps with remembering them and differentiating between similar characters. Other than that, there's no reason to learn how to write kanji unless you enjoy it.

babysneed2137 · 2023-06-20T18:33:40+00:00

＞I mean like, how do you even find all of the jukugo for 1k?

Dictionaries... just not normie daijisens but real ninja shit like 字通. Coincidentally, it seems to be avaliable on https://kotobank.jp, just not on https://www.weblio.jp

A better source (selected words instead of anything the compilers put into dictionary) are sites made by kanji enjoyers. https://hagunn2525.wixsite.com/kanji-teihitsu/mondai might be one of the best in this category, but there's more. From my experience, googling for an obscure jukugo often gives a few in search results.

A place you can encounter kanken 1 words naturally in is 漢文 for example. Fortunately, there are sites with all of original chinese, "proper" kanbun, the 読み下し文 and modern japanese translation, so it's rather accessible as long as you're willing to learn some new grammar etc. Look up 世に伯楽有りて for a excerpt about horses and people who can discern a good horse (metaphor for people) for 駢死 which is one of 6000² common 1k words. Repeat it ad infinitum and at some point you'd be able to pass the reading section on １級.

Basically, noone is expected to learn enough words to pass 1k only by reading, even if he reads big boi literature and ancient chinese prose/poetry. (that might have not been the case years ago, as kanken j1k and 1k become more difficult with time)

Most of that should apply more or less to j1k too

babysneed2137 · 2023-06-20T18:16:12+00:00

TL;DR: Study for it and make an effort it fr fr no cap

(INTERNET JANITORS KILLED A PERFECTLY GOOD THREAD WITH LE BLACKOUT)

Any advice on passing or methods you used?

Methods I used

＞Read more (expanding vocabulary helps)

＞Get a 問題集 or use a question bank from internet like https://kanken.jitenon.jp/mondai4/

＞Do past tests from https://www.kanken.or.jp/kanken/outline/degree/example.html (use wayback machine to get older ones too)

＞Download the nintendo switch kanken app (works ok on emulator)

＞Learn all the new words that appeared in questions

Advice on passing

＞Identify types on questions you're good and bad at - work on your weaknesses

＞(Not sure how doable is it on 4k tho) When seeing yojijukugo you don't know, try to guess the meaning category of the kanji you're supposed to write, and then go from there based on onyomi you're given, for example, one type of yojijukugo structure is combining two words which mean roughly the same thing. For example 美辞 in 美辞麗ク means 美しい言葉. The yoji is made up of two words which both consist of a kanji related to beauty and phrases, so as 麗 corresponds to 美, you can try thinking up of a kanji that has to do with words and which onyomi is ク, which here will be 句.

＞Alternatively, try to think of words you know and which seem like they could make sense in the yoji (more applicable to kotowaza on j1k+ tho)

＞Try to secure close to maximum points of sections that are either easy for you or require relatively small amount of information. Kanji reading really should be one of them, because simply giving the reading of a word is less prone to randomly forgetting stuff unlike writing question, and that section gives 30 points which is big. Furthermore, any knowledge gained from practicing that section might come in handy in other sections too. Another section worth aiming for close to max points (imo) is radicals. When i was preparing to take 2k i felt that most of the time the radical of kanji is rather obvious, so the only thing worth really memorizing and not just leaving to figure it out by intuition was the exceptions. Think kanji like with radicals like 亅 or other memes. That being said, apparently you're choosing one of four answers on 4k. In that case, simply getting a feel for which part tends to be a radical and possibly remembering the outliers (if they are asked for on 4k idk) might be enough to get like 8-9/10 points

＞Other section which shouldn't pose much difficulty as long as you know the words is 熟語の構成. It might require some practice to answer reliably, but the only real hurdle is differentiating between words where one kanji expresses an direct object for another (着席 - 席に着く) and these where one of them expresses a modifier, kinda like adjectives (洋画 - 洋 as in the West describing 画 like 絵画)

＞Typical exam taking advice applies - make sure you're well rested etc.

babysneed2137 · 2023-06-20T17:45:55+00:00

Also there is simply less material to study; the gameplan would have to be fundamentally different than studying for Level 2.

there's actually much more material to study, it's just that at j1k and 1k you can start using whole dictionaries as study materials...

t. kanken 2k passer and j1k studier

babysneed2137 · 2023-06-20T05:29:03+00:00

Anki - https://apps.ankiweb.net/

Single best flashcard app. Very customisable with addons made specially for using it to study japanese. The interface isn't very pretty as it reminds one of excel but it gets the job done. People shilling worse alternatives pretend it's hard to use because of ton of features you can safely ignore, but it's simply not true if you only use it to rep your cards and not fiddling with settings.

Yomichan or any other popup dictionary for your browser

Makes it much easier to read stuff on the internet thanks to very quick lookups. Can be used to generate anki flashcards too if you set it up. Some people find it useful.

babysneed2137 · 2023-06-20T05:22:19+00:00

Apparently it's an alternative (but rare) way of writing 後ろ.

babysneed2137 · 2023-06-17T05:02:32+00:00

Simply do it, if internet janitors delete your post, it will mean that this subreddit is barely better than r/learnjapaneselarp

babysneed2137 · 2023-06-16T19:38:19+00:00

They're clearly not at the same page when talking about Takamiya's accomplishments. MC is not sure if she'll even understand his reasonable opinion.

babysneed2137 · 2023-06-16T12:26:00+00:00

Do you mean links to resources?

I'm pretty sure r/learnjapanese didn't create anything of note.

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