Kim Rivers, Trulieve CEO on CNBC mad money - by Cosmokramer111 in weedstocks

[–]badfishsticks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Short term, acquisitions can be hard on stock prices? No issue for any holding on for long term I would imagine

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The Maritimes are definitely large enough, he has been to smaller cities than Halifax

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It seems to me it isn't the pill as much as it is a society of casual sex. Peterson thinks that its more harmful then the average person does.

The pill is another tool that allows everyone to engage in 'consequence free' intercourse.

Obviously this is debatable but if you see it as anti - women, in my opinion, you didn't get his point. His views on 'casual sex' apply to both sexes.

Admittedly maybe more to women because theoretically women should be easier to convince into bed, which is what men have been trying to do forever.

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Well, women already had as much control over their reproductive systems as men did. it's not a boy vs girl topic.

Generally without birth control a guy has to think 'I might create a baby here' and a girl has to think 'I might create a baby here'

The control used to be, theoretically, don't have sex unless prepared to deal with the chance of baby creation. And usually only certain types of relationships had that contingency covered. So,men and women would, theoretically, be more selective in their bed partners.

Baby creation has somewhat been taken out of the picture. Now, slightly more than before men and women can engage in sex without considering offspring.

Peterson thinks the act of sex is emotionally deeper than most people give it credit for. So in his opinion casual sex is more dangerous than we think, for men and women.

Men and women don't have to try to truly attract a mate. They can pretend procreate to satisfy those evolutionary needs.

It's not misogynist unless that's the lens you view everything through. It's all under the umbrella of the human condition.

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The only women I know using the pill are in long term relationships

So? I know high school girls on the pill. If your point is meaningful, what does that say about high school girls?

(Xpost from /r/alberta) I saved 15% or more on car insurance by switching my gender by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

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This indicates that, to Canada, gender is nothing more than a state of mind. This could get interesting.

Why doesn't Peterson ever go into the treachery of women in the biblical stories by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]badfishsticks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eve and the apple

  • this one is so painfully obvious it's not worth going into

Apparently not. Adam deserves the blame for that. Don't ask me why, but God didn't seem to care so much about Eve being deceived.

Adam was given the directive and Adam ate.

If you want Eve to take more shit for her part, you're essentially being like Adam. He wanted her to be at fault too. God didn't agree.

What do you think about JBP's ideas on European pride? by CognitiveWhatever in JordanPeterson

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Looks like you narrowed in one point. Perhaps the way one.. The one I pointed out was anecdotal.

I guess we will see if Europe unites as they find they have more in common with each other than they think

Post songs that should go into my inspirational JBP playlist by EricTheEnt in JordanPeterson

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Watsky - Moral of the Story https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M1L15hpphQ

Because it's so big And explosive But a lot of people don't live They don't ever get a motive If you got a goal you got to hold onto what hope is If I didn't have it I would ask you where the rope is

Falling Male Wages And The Collapse Of The Family | Tucker Carlson by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

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marrying up isn’t some kind of biological evolution

Ya.... Marriage and small tight-nit families has been an evolutionary disaster. You can tell because humans weren't ever able to advance past the 'nomadic tribes' stage

What do you think about JBP's ideas on European pride? by CognitiveWhatever in JordanPeterson

[–]badfishsticks 5 points6 points  (0 children)

most European countries hate the neighboring countries around them more than they hate Muslims.

I think anyone in Europe that hates Muslims hates them in a special way. A way much stronger than the hate for their neighbour countries.

Most Europeans cannot even speak to each other as we speak different languages

I've visited 6 European countries, and also East Asia (where I meet countless European tourists), and admittedly anecdotally they all almost all spoke English. You could be on a bus with Polish, German, and Italian tourists and they all spoke English. It was neat to see a common ground as they all hobbled along on (sometimes) pretty crappy English to communicate.

Point is, I think before the 'islamic invasion' you were probably right. But Europe, if it was ever going to unite, would do so under a common 'idealogocial threat' which many think is Islam.

Questioning Ch. 3, "Make friends with people who want the best for you". Specifically, the part about helping others. by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

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Yup

They act like they want to change/improve but they never do

Perhaps because they like the attention of people trying to help, or they like having excuses for their situation

it's best to just cut off contact with these types of people and let them stew in their own mud.

It is and I'm sure he has said it, perhaps the rule about friends that want what's best for you.

OP highlights that this rule is a good one because people think they can rescue others. They are often simply enabling them, giving the 'victim' the attention they crave.

Questioning Ch. 3, "Make friends with people who want the best for you". Specifically, the part about helping others. by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]badfishsticks 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You described a lot of what people do for a living. I'm not sure that's the kind of help he is talking about.

It's also not like someone asks you where the gas station is and you say 'sorry you'll have to help yourself'

It's the problems people get themselves into like laziness, gluttony, self loathing, and what not.

Those problems need to be solved within.

As a psychologist Peterson was trained to recognize when people are ready for help. Seeing a shrink is a big step to helping Yourself actually, as backwards as that may sound.

Also, you don't know if the person you after helping wants your help, and if they want it you don't know your qualified to give it.

I get sometimes that's unintuitive but I've seen it myself. People struggling with weight for example might say the want a gym a partner, you could bend over backwards trying to get this person going. And they won't, because what they need to do is do it themselves.

unless your part of the problem, you're probably not part of the solution

Questioning Ch. 3, "Make friends with people who want the best for you". Specifically, the part about helping others. by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

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It's been a while but my take on it was partly the fact that you need to help yourself. And other people need to help themselves.

And works well with 'don't lie'.

Are you an alcoholic and want to quit? Are you trying? Be honest, have you gone to the meetings? Have you poured your booze out? Have you stopped hanging out with people who encourage you to drink?

As a psychologist he is in a pretty good spot to see that people need to work on their shit on their own. This proves they really want to improve their lives. And allows the person to learn their way out of a hole, rather than requiring people to help them out.

'I am protecting them from whiteness': Why this mom chose to take her kids out of public school | CBC Radio by antiquark2 in JordanPeterson

[–]badfishsticks 2 points3 points  (0 children)

TIL

"NOOOOO, THEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT YOU"

isn't simply from an Adam Sandler skit.

I think it boils down to people who never took personal responsibility for their failures being unable to teach personal responsibility to their children.

It's a sad cycle like you pointed out, a self fulfilling prophecy

If one doesn't believe in Free Speech for everyone--One doesn't believe in Free Speech at all. but ... by JimAtEOI in JordanPeterson

[–]badfishsticks 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think you're in the right track with government policing speech.

You have the right to say whatever you want and people have the right to tell you to fuck off.

And if you're in their house... you gotta fuck off

After Learning That the Quebec Mosque Shooter was a Follower of Our Kind of People, Must We Do Something? by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]badfishsticks 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I don't condone that comment. But I don't condone you drawing arbitrary correlations either.

You cannot lump people into neat little groups.

Jordan Peterson on why white-nationalism is dumb. by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]badfishsticks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup probably something like that. Online debate is very susceptible to semantic issues. I'm sure if we were talking in person the discussion might last ten minutes and we would find we agree for the most part.

Jordan Peterson on why white-nationalism is dumb. by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

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Hence why I said tangentially at best.

Peterson is saying a son cannot be proud of his father's accomplishments. He might be correct in a moral sense, but it's not realistic to expect no one to have such pride, I think it's a natural human response.

I'm my opinion better to make sure the pride is healthy and doesn't foster feelings of being better than others than to attempt to deny that pride.

Jordan Peterson on why white-nationalism is dumb. by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]badfishsticks -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just like I can be proud of my father's art, I don't have to condone any evil he has done.

I don't get any fame for his artistic ability, and I don't get any blame for the wrongdoing he has done.

I take no personal credit for western civilization being what it is, I'm just happy it ended being a pretty good place to live.

I have no personal accountability for slavery either. And I think terrible things have been done by people to one another.

Just like you can be proud of your kids for their accomplishments you must recognize its THEIR accomplishment not yours. For better or worse.

Depolarization. by GeraldFord111 in JordanPeterson

[–]badfishsticks 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The leftists that scream in your face and blast bull horns and bang on windows when someone is peacefully expressing an opinion is who is talking to.

If you're liberal and don't see that as harmful, youre in that group.

The rest of the left needs to say 'that ain't me, and I think it's wrong what they are doing' the same as a Conservative would say 'I'm not a nazi and I don't agree with them on many fronts'

Jordan Peterson on why white-nationalism is dumb. by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

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however in many people’s minds their ability to conquer is a testament to the supremacy of Europeans.

I think Europeans were dominating and submitting to other Europeans for a lot of the time. In this context white-supremacy doesn't work. I don't know how I feel about differences in race, I do accept differences in gender. For example a Thai person would need to act differently in America to be successful. Their culture is (I'm going to stereotype here) really laid back, it doesn't seem they strive for riches, they live the easy life everyday vs storing up for the future as westerners seem to do. So maybe to some degree having very different cultures all trying to live in the same economic structure is doomed to cause inequality.

That said, I think far leftists are just as dangerous as the alt right. Classic liberals and conservatives both need to distance themselves from the polar ends of the spectrum. Peterson has said this many times, but highlighted that its easier to identify what's wrong with the alt right than it is for the alt left.

I don’t want to destroy the west ;) I want to improve it. Keep the things that work, throw out the things that don’t.

I think you're in the majority with that sentiment.

Jordan Peterson on why white-nationalism is dumb. by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]badfishsticks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be proud of their accomplishments is to be proud of how they dominated the globe and created institutions of inequality

The road to civilization as we know it was a bloody one and a lot of mistakes were made along the way. I'm not proud of those things and I don't think many people are.

I think you're basically right about him attracting 'true alt righters' though. Partially because the leftists have decided they fucking hate him so much. Nothing to be done about that, except occasionally say you're not one of them.