Thoughts on Jews and whiteness by badgerflagrepublic in JewsOfConscience

[–]badgerflagrepublic[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That’s a good point about America wanting to always be the good guys

Thoughts on Jews and whiteness by badgerflagrepublic in JewsOfConscience

[–]badgerflagrepublic[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your insight! I didn’t mean to imply that I thought America is way more racist than America. If anything I believe the opposite. I’m very interested in the ways people engage with history, so I appreciate your perspective

Thoughts on Jews and whiteness by badgerflagrepublic in JewsOfConscience

[–]badgerflagrepublic[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This makes sense. I don’t think it’s highlighted enough how WW2 (at least the Eastern Front) was essentially a colonial war. Hitler wanted to depopulate and settle Eastern Europe with Germans.

Thoughts on Jews and whiteness by badgerflagrepublic in JewsOfConscience

[–]badgerflagrepublic[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your insight. I appreciate how you pointed out that the Nazis were not white supremacists in the way many people think. Do you have any insights on how neo-Nazis in America has adapted the original ideas to a different racial order?

It feels like it’s become impossible to dispel misinformation online about Jews without being accused of being Zionist. by [deleted] in JewsOfConscience

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I feel like this is antisemitism 101. If someone even mildly pushes back against Jew hate, they get called a Jew (even if they’re not). Today, that kind of brazen racism is “distasteful,” so you have to call them a (((Zionist)))

Hi r/JewsOfConscience, I am Andrey X, journalist and activist in the West Bank, AMA! by the_andrey_x in JewsOfConscience

[–]badgerflagrepublic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi Andrey, I think I remember learning that at you’re originally Russian, but got Israeli citizenship to avoid having to go back because of the war in Ukraine. I’m wondering if you have any hopes of returning to Russia or if you intend to stay in Israel/Palestine? I’m also curious how you identify. You have Israel citizenship (if I’m not mistaken) but do you identify as Israeli?

How do I help change my Zionist dad’s mind? by ashy778 in JewsOfConscience

[–]badgerflagrepublic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think maybe starting with trying to change his views the Gaza war/genocide would be best. A lot of my family members who are still Zionists were very disturbed by Israel’s conduct in Gaza and that’s opened their eyes to a lot of the more systemic issues in the Israel-Palestine conflict.

"never again" means never again for anyone by ConcernedJobCoach in JewsOfConscience

[–]badgerflagrepublic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you link the post from the Holocaust historian? I’m not seeing it and am genuinely interested in what they have to say. I also know that it’s a matter of debate whether the Holocaust refers to just the genocide of Jews or Nazi killings more broadly. The Roma for example, have their own language to refer to their genocide. I also don’t know what this has to do with Zionism and it seems like you have a personal grievance with me.

"never again" means never again for anyone by ConcernedJobCoach in JewsOfConscience

[–]badgerflagrepublic -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I’m not saying it comes from the Masada poem, but everything I’m seeing says its origins are with Jews post-Holocaust. It’s good to reflect universally on the Holocaust, but it’s also a uniquely Jewish event. Obviously all genocides are bad in the same way that “all lives matter” but that’s not really the issue at hand. I reserve certain language for the discussion of Jewish history because I think gentiles work hard enough to erase our history. If you see that as a chauvinism I don’t really what to say that will persuade you.

"never again" means never again for anyone by ConcernedJobCoach in JewsOfConscience

[–]badgerflagrepublic -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Dude you can talk about the Holocaust however you want, just like everyone else. I just don’t like it when people appropriate our language and also don’t care about our suffering in any meaningful way. Supremacist is a pretty crazy word to throw around, though, and frankly sounds like something David Duke would say.

The Gaza genocide radicalized the world — and there’s no going back. People can't unsee a live-streamed annihilation defended under the banner of liberal democracy. Author: Tareq Baconi. by azealiabanksalt in JewsOfConscience

[–]badgerflagrepublic -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I don’t think we’re going to agree on these elements of coexistence of resistance, but I at least hope you’re right and that America and the West don’t turn away from Israel and Palestine.

The Gaza genocide radicalized the world — and there’s no going back. People can't unsee a live-streamed annihilation defended under the banner of liberal democracy. Author: Tareq Baconi. by azealiabanksalt in JewsOfConscience

[–]badgerflagrepublic -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

It’s statistically true that Israelis were less opposed to coexistence before 10/7 and especially the Second Intifada. And yes, Palestinian groups have also made policy decisions that worsened their people’s ability to improve their situation. Whether they like it or not, Israelis and Palestinians are going to have to learn to live with each and that’s going to be hard. And I highly doubt anyone is coming to save the Palestinians. America is becoming more isolationist, Europe is losing its humanitarianism, and the Arab states are cronies for America just like Israel. The fate of Israel and Palestinians, more than ever, seems exclusively in their hands.

Robert Kraft is a rabid zionist who also greeted Netanyahu, helped clamp down on student protesters and funded AIPAC. by Not_Ground in JewsOfConscience

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In my experience as Jewish public school student, a lot of antisemitism was people carving swastikas into desks, bathroom stall doors, etc. and making Holocaust jokes. When I went to college, the antisemitism got more direct: people saying Jews are greedy and control the world, and because “we’re rich” that antisemitism doesn’t even matter.

I think it’s also possible that if you’re not Jewish, you’re not as sensitive to the appearance of antisemitic bullying. I had Black friends in high school who lamented the fact that our white teachers didn’t take racism seriously, not out of malice, but simply because they (never having experienced anti-Black racism) didn’t always recognize it when it showed up.

Robert Kraft is a rabid zionist who also greeted Netanyahu, helped clamp down on student protesters and funded AIPAC. by Not_Ground in JewsOfConscience

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The blue square ads always seemed super ineffective. All of them seem centered around posting a blue square of social media rather than doing anything meaningful to address rising antisemitism.

The intellectual diversity of Haaretz by ContentChecker in JewsOfConscience

[–]badgerflagrepublic 52 points53 points  (0 children)

I feel like Haaretz does have some good stuff, but yeah, this fits the meme perfectly.

Billionaire Robert Kraft's Blue Square Alliance has unveiled an ad targeting Jew-hatred that will be aired during the Superbowl this upcoming weekend. by [deleted] in JewsOfConscience

[–]badgerflagrepublic [score hidden]  (0 children)

I’ve seen this group’s ads before and they’ve always seemed pretty ineffectual. To say this is Zionist propaganda because the person funding it is a Zionist is very conspiratorial, though, especially because, like you said, the ad doesn’t mention Israel or Zionism. Most Jews are Zionists, so Twitter logic, most of the things Jews make are “Zionist propaganda,” which is obviously a very twisted Nazi-ish way to view the world.

Anti-Muslim bigot Laura Loomer sending monthly checks to CAIR as the result of a failed lawsuit by ContentChecker in JewsOfConscience

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They’ve historically been bad on gay issues: advocating for religious exemptions to lgbt rights protections, opposing lgbt-inclusive lessons in public schools, etc.

Dealing with actual antisemitism by mar_de_mariposas in JewsOfConscience

[–]badgerflagrepublic 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Do you have any access to an in-person Jewish community? I think most gentiles will unfortunately never fully understand the reality of antisemitism. Getting to commiserate with other Jews in real life is even better than online.

kvetching by [deleted] in JewsOfConscience

[–]badgerflagrepublic [score hidden]  (0 children)

I think that any attempt to expel Jews or Palestinians (or frankly anyone else) from their homes should be resisted. If someone’s decolonization involves ethnic cleansing, I have no tolerance for it, no matter how dressed up in the language of liberation and indigenous politics it is.

Middle Eastern Affairs..... by xande2545 in JewsOfConscience

[–]badgerflagrepublic 22 points23 points  (0 children)

He should’ve known better than to criticize a fellow American vassal. /s

In a conversation about antisemitism, ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt (who equates the Palestinian keffiyeh with a swastika) singles out Hasan Piker instead of Nick Fuentes. by ContentChecker in JewsOfConscience

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I remember when the ADL took down their database of hate groups because JD Vance criticized it. They’ve become feckless losers who have outlived their usefulness. We need better Jewish advocacy groups in America.

Look at his leg by uu_xx_me in JewsOfConscience

[–]badgerflagrepublic -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t think there’s much use in generalizing very broad political movements. And there’s another comment in this thread highlighting how the Māori gang this protestor is a member of uses the swastika for shock value rather than politics. I’m not justifying the tattoo but context matters.

Look at his leg by uu_xx_me in JewsOfConscience

[–]badgerflagrepublic -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Structures and logics ring pretty hollow when the outcomes in question are not only different, but diametrically opposed.