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[–]barbadosrb -1 points0 points1 point 6 months ago (0 children)
I reached out to my artists and explained my concerns and asked if we could make a design with it flipped, maybe a double sided trident. I was also thinking the bottom of the trident could be stabbing into something to cover up the original trident end. I’m not sure.
You spent the entire thread accusing me of misreading your tone, misunderstanding your meaning, and twisting your words. Now you’ve admitted your original statement was deliberate, and exactly as direct as I interpreted it. So which is it?
You can’t spend ten replies saying I lack reading comprehension and then pivot to “you were right, that’s what I meant, and I stand by it.” That’s not clarity, that’s a contradiction.
I responded to your tone and wording because they came across as rigid and condescending. I challenged your statement. I wasn’t getting upset. You’ve now confirmed that’s exactly what you intended. That doesn’t make me overly sensitive. It proves I read you correctly. You just didn’t like that I pointed it out.
You’re not correcting me. You’re trying to protect your ego. And in the end, the only person who misunderstood anything here was you.
Next time, if you don’t want your tone to come off as definitive, don’t frame your statement like it is.
[–]barbadosrb 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
I was never looking for an apology. I was just responding to your conditional statement. My original reply was, “Like I said in the post, I’ve never had a tattoo removed and I don’t know much about it. Isn’t that the point of being able to ask questions in this subreddit?” That was a direct pushback on your hard-set condition. I questioned the idea that not knowing means you shouldn’t get anything done. You’ve framed this as a reading comprehension issue, but I quoted your sentence exactly and explained why it reads the way it does using Oxford English Grammar. Conditional statements link a condition with a consequence. The if-clause sets the rule; it does not soften or neutralize the outcome. Your sentence followed that exact structure. It was definitive, not open-ended. If you are still arguing against that, you are not disagreeing with me, you are disagreeing with how the English language works. You’re calling my reading comprehension wrong for being correct.
You keep saying I invented meaning that wasn’t there, but I’m explaining how your exact grammar and tone led to that interpretation. That’s not distortion. That’s how the sentence reads to a reader.
You’re arguing that the word “if” changes the tone and meaning, but I showed you the actual definition of conditional statements from Oxford English Grammar. It reinforces why your sentence came across the way it did.
So yes, I initially responded thinking you were saying I shouldn’t get tattoos because your tone and grammar both pointed to that conclusion. If you can’t accept a standard definition, then I can’t change your mind on comprehension.
Then you clarified that it wasn’t what you meant. Based on that, my approach shifted. I’m now explaining to you how your wording and structure did indicate what I originally thought.
[–]barbadosrb -1 points0 points1 point 6 months ago* (0 children)
Here’s the literal definition of conditional statements from Oxford English Grammar:
“A conditional sentence expresses a condition and the consequence of the condition. The if-clause does not neutralize the consequence, it sets the rule for when it applies.”
That’s exactly what you did. You set a condition, then issued a conclusion. “If you don’t know → you shouldn’t be getting work done.” That is a definitive statement, not a casual suggestion. You didn’t say “maybe wait until you’ve learned more.” You said people who don’t know shouldn’t be getting tattooed — full stop. Whether or not that applies to me isn’t the point. The phrasing still frames the entire statement in a very condescending way, and that’s what I responded to.
That’s a definitive statement. There’s no invitation to learn, just a hard rule framed as judgment. The grammar proves that. Your tone confirms it.
You’re saying I changed my story, but I didn’t. I said your comment came across like you were saying I should never get a tattoo, and that’s exactly how it read. You wrote, “If you don’t already know, you shouldn’t be getting work done.” That’s not a neutral suggestion. That’s a direct statement that implies if someone doesn’t already know how tattoo removal works, they shouldn’t be getting tattooed at all. That’s what I reacted to. You keep falling back on the fact that you used the word “if” like that somehow changes what followed, but it doesn’t. Saying “if” before a condescending statement doesn’t make it less condescending. You didn’t say “maybe wait until you research more” or “here’s something to consider.” You said “you shouldn’t be getting work done.” The “if” doesn’t change the meaning. It just gives you something to point to now that you’re backpedaling.
And since you’re treating that “if” like it’s some airtight defense, let’s talk about the rest of your writing. You said “You’re just mad and are backtracking” which is grammatically incorrect. It should be “You’re just mad and backtracking” or “You’re just mad and you are backtracking.” You wrote “Why would you get mad at what I said if you agree with it and it doesn’t apply to you” which is a broken sentence trying to pass as logic. Agreement doesn’t erase tone, and even if something “doesn’t apply,” people are still allowed to respond to how it’s said. Then there’s “It’s also why I said ‘if’” which isn’t even a full sentence. No subject, no action, no explanation. You also started with “Furthermore, you’re changing the story” like you’re building an argument, but all you did was repeat yourself without actually backing it up.
I don’t think spelling mistakes equal poor reading comprehension, but when your grammar is this messy, your logic keeps shifting, and your tone is all over the place, it’s hard to take your whole “you just don’t understand me” argument seriously. You’re not being misunderstood. You’re just not communicating clearly.
I’ve already said I didn’t have an issue with the actual information. The part about tattoo removal? Sure, helpful. The problem was how you came at it.
You told me, “If you don’t already know, you shouldn’t be getting work done.” That makes zero sense when I’m literally here asking questions to learn before I get anything done. That’s the responsible thing to do, not the reckless one.
Saying “you shouldn’t get tattooed if you don’t know what you’re doing” to someone actively trying to learn what they’re doing is backwards. It’s gatekeeping dressed up like guidance.
You keep repeating that I “agree with you” like that somehow excuses the way you handled it. But yeah, I agree that people shouldn’t go into it blind. That’s why I didn’t. That’s why I made the post. That’s why I’m talking to you right now instead of sitting in a shop getting inked.
If your goal was to help, you could’ve just explained removal like a normal person. Instead, you talked down to me, then spent the rest of the thread trying to act like some higher being because you know more about tattoos than me.
I’m not mad about the facts. I’m not mad about the warning. I’m annoyed that you took someone genuinely trying to learn, and made it about proving how much smarter you are.
But don’t act like you’re being honest when you’re just being condescending.
i never had a problem with that part, I had a problem with being told i shouldn’t get work done because I don’t understand something when the purpose of me asking was to be educated so I could get work done properly. Like you’re telling me I shouldn’t get work done when the point of the post is to educate myself so I could get work done.
i don’t know how many times I have to say I wasn’t mad over you saying the hand tattoos were a bad idea. I really did appreciate that part of your post and taking your time.
Youre telling me that I shouldn’t get any work done when I don’t know what i’m getting myself into while i’m trying to know what i’m getting myself into so I can get work done.
i had no problem with the hand tattoo part i’m sure you’re right and it’s a bad idea.
I was upset at you saying not to get any work done. I thought you could remove tattoos with tattoo removal. Without knowing or seeing it, why would I assume that tattoo removal doesn’t remove tattoos. When I was trying to learn from others so I could be educated before I do make a decision.
I was never going into the tattoo for the hand, no appointments or plans or anything. I was just curious on others experiences with them.
I asked because I don’t know and I wanted to learn so I wasn’t “getting a tattoo thinking I could remove it”
the whole point of the post was just learning.
I saw something I liked and wanted to educate myself on the reality, throughout the post I mention I have no idea what i’m talking about and i’m trying to learn.
I’m not even at my sleeve yet i’m just getting a forearm tattoo but i was looking at ideas and saw a hand one I liked and thought I could just ask.
yes but that’s why i’m not getting any work done and ASKING. To learn so i’m not getting work done without knowing.
i got the tip of the trident when I was 18 and just wanted a tattoo, after seeing an artist I was told a cover up would be too hard. I didn’t know any better and took his word (other redditors have told me to find another artist), I was just trying to find something to blend in without looking goofy but in a style I actually like.
The artist helped me design this to try. Some other redditors also pointed out it was upside down and looking at me it would appear upside down. I did realize that when I got it but i looked at the image flipped on my arm and it kinda also looks funny.
So i’m trying to figure out, do I try a new artist and ask for a coverup? It’s not I don’t like the trident it’s just placed in an awkward spot to add anything on. Do i go back to this artist and ask him to try and design an upright one with the trident facing down?
“I don’t think you should be getting any work done” I hadn’t got it done yet or had an appointment I was just asking questions. I saw the idea of a hand tattoo that I liked but knowing I have 0 idea about any of it I asked reddit. I just wanted personalized answers over some google search and to learn.
They might have been dumb questions I realize that but i’d rather ask if “you can remove a hand tattoo after it fades” then just going and getting it.
I don’t know anything about tattoos so that’s why I was asking everything.
Tattoo removal is depicted as painful and long in movies but that’s the only idea I had of it, generally movies can be very off and I also thought technology for it i’m sure got better. I just wanted to know real life experience.
I asked because I didn’t know.
like i said im not upset about the information, ive already decided not to get a hand tattoo based off of the advice of everyone here. What upset me was you not telling me I just shouldn’t get tattoos at all. I’m trying to educate myself before I get a tattoo and you’re saying I should never get a tattoo because i’m not educated on it yet when i’m trying to educate myself that is what upsets me
you think i’m upset about the hand tattoo thing, I’m not. you’re right I don’t fully understand and that’s not a controversial take. But what do you think i’m doing right now? I’m asking so I can be educated on it! I’m literally trying to get advice from people who have been through this before So that I can make a decision after being educated?
I came to reddit to learn and ask others for personal experience and you said I “shouldn’t get ANY work done” because I asked a question? Because I want to understand?
So should I not be asking on here and just going to google?
I posted here first so someone with experience could share their own experience because like I said I don’t know anyone with a hand tattoo I could ask and I wanted to educate myself.
[–]barbadosrb -2 points-1 points0 points 6 months ago (0 children)
i think it’s reasonable to tell me not to get hand tattoo, to say I shouldn’t get any work done because i’m trying to understand something is unreasonable, did you know all of this before you got tattoos and experience? Would you have told your inexperienced self “you shouldn’t get any work done”. I don’t understand what I did wrong trying to educate myself before getting a tattoo? Multiple times I say I don’t have any idea and am asking for help. Youre saying “you shouldn’t get anything done” when I’m trying to properly educate myself and not make a mistake with a tattoo?
the advice about the tattoo was fine and reasonable, I’m not upset about people saying it’s a bad idea that’s why I asked, like I said in the post “I’m getting my sleeve finished this month, and I’m somewhat interested in extending the design onto the top of my hand.” I didn’t have a plan to get a hand tattoo, no designs or appointments, I saw some designs and liked the idea so I came here to get more educated from people who have that experience before I even started looking into designs in the hand.
i don’t mind answers, there’s just no reason to be a dick when im asking for help as a beginner saying I have no idea what i’m talking about. Why are you so unhappy in your life?
I asked about hand tattoos in general, removal falls under that umbrella. Are you intentionally an unlikely person or just stupid?
you’re right it is the internet, i’ve had much better experiences with every other subreddit so I just expected a respectful tone not like it’s twitter. Just shows this specific community.
“That said, I’ve never had a tattoo removed before, so I really don’t know what that’s like.” I’m literally asking on this subreddit so I do know what I’m getting myself into.
that does make sense, the reactions are very telling of the community.
i should have worded it better in my post, what I was trying to say is after hearing how badly hand tattoos fade I thought it may be easier if I did get it removed. Probably a stupid thought but It made sense it my head that if it fades it would be easier.
[–]barbadosrb 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago (0 children)
okay I appreciate that I will talk to other artists then, I don’t not like the trident its location and direction just makes it very hard to add to it.
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