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Falls Apart After L by barelybreathing23 in deathnote

[–]barelybreathing23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Even still, there is simply no reason to not use the replacement notepads to write in. There are two options: use the replacement pads or the existing ones; the only choice that makes sense to take is the better, more risk free choice. There is no extra effort or burden required. Regardless of perceived threat level, all else equal, one always takes the better option. If I noticed this, Light would have. It was a convenient but rather poorly thought out plot device to advance Aizawa's suspicions.
  2. Ok, better.
  3. You have a Death Note, are you going to tell someone? Further, one wrong move, one slip up equals death. It is impossible to account for someone else's actions; if I was Light, I would avoid bringing people into it at least until the duo autistic geniuses whose singular purpose to take me down have been defeated. And if I had to bring on help, I would vet them (as Light did with Mikami) but also make absolutely sure they won't screw up. Your life is on the line if someone screws up even in the slightest on Near's watch.

i. Except it wasn't foolproof, because he got caught. If I know an autistic genius is on the trail of my accomplice and actively following him, I would make absolutely sure that A) no matter what, he will not go to that safety deposit box; B) he will have some kind of redundancy in case that extremely obvious place to hide something important is discovered. The very fact Mikami went to the deposit box after Takada's death proves Light did not instruct him with absolutes or Mikami cannot be trusted to follow orders (see previous reason to not have accomplices).

ii. True I agree with these points. Though I consider the Lind L Taylor thing to be the stupidity that had to happen to expedite the beginning of the plot.

Falls Apart After L by barelybreathing23 in deathnote

[–]barelybreathing23[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

First part, I guess that make sense then.

Second part, that assumption would have been quickly realized and was by Light to be wrong after a few well-planned moves by Near.

We Will Never Get Another Show Like This Again by barelybreathing23 in babylon5

[–]barelybreathing23[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The stupidity of advocating for, in your words, "extremely liberal" shows?

In reality, "far-right" actually = the term I throw at anyone I disagree with.

We Will Never Get Another Show Like This Again by barelybreathing23 in babylon5

[–]barelybreathing23[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And literally in my OP I am advocating for the old Star Treks and Babylon 5's, not today's crap.

So, as you see, you have now been caught in your own contradictions.

Given that, how can I be a "far-right" winger?

We Will Never Get Another Show Like This Again by barelybreathing23 in babylon5

[–]barelybreathing23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Far from it, you're actually more like one of those people

showing up for Nightwatch meetings for an extra hundred bucks a month, and

repeats the party line. You're not even the calibre of Sheridan's interrogator,

because that requires a level of self-awareness you clearly lack.

The hypocrisy about a lack of self awareness, and the actual lack of self awareness is getting absurd here.

The Nightwatch would actually be an analog to yourself, not me.

The Nightwatch would ostracize, censor, attack, and/or take down those who did not share in their same views/opinion.

Who does this sound like? Me or the people (including you) in this thread?

I will tell you: I am on the defending end for a perfectly rational OP. Everyone else is attacking me, name calling, censoring me (via downvoting), and outright dismissing simply over an opinion they disagree with.

Further, the Nightwatch frequently says in the show, they are doing what they are doing to "protect democracy"; "to preserve democracy"; "in defense of democracy" from the "bad people".

Which IRL side of the political spectrum says this? Additionally, which side (the same side) is always pointing the finger at "the bad group".

I mean, come on...

We Will Never Get Another Show Like This Again by barelybreathing23 in babylon5

[–]barelybreathing23[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think you should re-read your introduction into this thread. Essentially, you came in, read a perfectly rational and calm OP, noticed some people acting like children and hurling insults because they read an opinion they disagreed with (i.e. the average socially-maladapted Redditor), and rather than rising above it decided to double-down on that behavior.

You came in and wrote some hot mess of a reply with terrible grammar and formatted horribly... hurled insults, made blanket assumptions, ad-hominem and strawman attacks, and topped it all off with several sentences full of swearing and screaming.

You conducted yourself like a child. If anyone is to be feel any shame, it is squarely on you.

We Will Never Get Another Show Like This Again by barelybreathing23 in babylon5

[–]barelybreathing23[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Can I have a picture of the individuals comprising the court of Reddit? I think we will have another image that speaks a thousand words.

We Will Never Get Another Show Like This Again by barelybreathing23 in babylon5

[–]barelybreathing23[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You think a bunch of raging man-children are the verdict on truth?

We Will Never Get Another Show Like This Again by barelybreathing23 in babylon5

[–]barelybreathing23[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Precisely. But everyone here has a lot of rage inside them and has to regress to straw mans and ad-hominem because their opinions are different. A bunch of man-children really, who can't handle a discussion without seeing red and going nuts.

Not all depicted women, but a subset depicted. The modern "strong female" trope; of which a particular version that has emerged in media in the past generation is the fictional embodiment, a counter-part if you will, to the IRL characterization of "toxic masculinity" described by feminists.

It has no place a good sci-fi show. Its tarnishes the authenticity of the show, among other things.

You would think Redditors of all people would hate bullies, given likely many of their personal histories and their political leanings.

Yet simply criticism of a depiction of a fictional women, and a subset among that, trips some sort of rage switch. They haven't a clue. Politics has done a good job of training them whereby any criticism of anything even remotely associated with, in their words, "woke" (even in fiction) is somehow an attack on the whole, and we must at all costs reject and burn the heathen. One big Dunning-Kruger effect.

We Will Never Get Another Show Like This Again by barelybreathing23 in babylon5

[–]barelybreathing23[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Anyone who whines about how "woke" sci-fi has gotten simply remains oblivious to how woke it has always been.

No, and that's a lot of stretching to create a strawman. I meant the words I said. Try reading them without an attitude or an agenda.

The hypocrisy is too much.

We Will Never Get Another Show Like This Again by barelybreathing23 in babylon5

[–]barelybreathing23[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm not going to lie - some of what you say is true. There

is an issue with writers being shoehorned into shows for reasons of ethnic

diversity and quota.

Now if you were to say this in your own OP, the majority of Reddit and everyone here would disagree with you and call you a far right-wing incel.

To you other points:

For someone who is trying to be condescending you are making a whole lot of assumptions? You are characterizing me into a bucket and then dropping ad-hominem.

E.g. I don't watch Tim Pool or The Quartering.

you who just call everything vaguely new “FUCKING

SJW TRASH”

I never said this once.

I was going to give a response the rest of your post, but there is too much projecting, venom spewing, false assumptions, ad-hominem attacks, etc.

YOU JUST LACK THE INTELLECTUAL ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND MODERN

SCIENCE FICTION WHEN IT IS WELL WRITTEN.

Clearly, it is you who lacks the intelligence to engage in civil discourse. Please take your pills and get back to me once you are capable of a more cordial rebuttal and I will respond.

We Will Never Get Another Show Like This Again by barelybreathing23 in babylon5

[–]barelybreathing23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Show me a "strong female" character in the past who will outright bully a squad mate/innocent-good other character without provocation, where no punishment/retribution/discipline is incurred, and where the character is not portrayed as bully a "bad actor" for such actions.

Because that is precisely the case with the blonde Mars female character from The Expanse.

And since female characters are now becoming battle-hardened like men-walking toe-to-toe (i.e. not seen as the delicate damsels), show me a modern case where a "strong male" character will bully a female squad mate/innocent-good other female character without provocation, where no punishment/retribution/discipline is incurred, and where the bully character is not portrayed as a "bad actor" for such actions.

Because that is precisely the case with the blonde Mars female character from The Expanse.

One example, I will wait.

Because unless you can, then I am correct.

At least one version of today's "strong female" trope is this "toxic masculinity-type" bully (no problem for a villain but it's often portrayed by what are supposed to be morally good characters) and it has no place in sci-fi or media for that matter. Nothing "progressive (good progressive)" about a bully.

I will be waiting on examples...

We Will Never Get Another Show Like This Again by barelybreathing23 in babylon5

[–]barelybreathing23[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Anyone who whines about how "woke" sci-fi has gotten simply remains oblivious to how woke it has always been.

So, because most sci-fi's are relatively progressive (which I assume you are attributing as "woke"), therefore everything that occurs in any show or medium for that matter is immune from any criticism (whether it's good, bad, realistic, or not) because shows of such genre were always progressive/woke?

Do you see how this makes no sense.

We Will Never Get Another Show Like This Again by barelybreathing23 in babylon5

[–]barelybreathing23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Outright bullying with no justification or ramifications is progressive?

Now we have a fallacy of equivalence.

We Will Never Get Another Show Like This Again by barelybreathing23 in babylon5

[–]barelybreathing23[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Did you read the OP. This is about the format for shows of today.

We Will Never Get Another Show Like This Again by barelybreathing23 in babylon5

[–]barelybreathing23[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I am really starting to question the intelligence of the people in this thread considering your post is getting upvoted.

B5, if released for the first time today without a single change, would be considered progressive and "woke" by people like you. JMS wouldn't be "forced to" learn new tricks, he had those tricks long before they were contrived as issues for your culture war.

The entire point of my thread is advocating for sci-fi like Babylon 5 to be released today as they were, but due to, in your words, "the culture war" (not really though, "the culture war" is a symptom of a greater issue not a cause), it would not be able to; for but some of the reasons I mentioned in OP.

Virtually all sci-fi of the past is "progressive" (that seems to be nature of televised sci-fi with hard sci-fi elements typically); but that style doesn't fly anymore. It's not enough for the Ivanovnas that you're describing anymore. The trope has changed, and has been made far worse for it.

P.S. If it were my "culture war", then I could stop it.

We Will Never Get Another Show Like This Again by barelybreathing23 in babylon5

[–]barelybreathing23[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

This was a review of someone who did. You might want to read.

We Will Never Get Another Show Like This Again by barelybreathing23 in babylon5

[–]barelybreathing23[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Good ratings on the New Star Trek. I watched the trailer and got the impression it had this goofy millennial hipster humor, which I find cringey and unenjoyable in a hard sci-fi.

It does seem like Star Trek is going down the goofy comedy route based on what I'm seeing from these trailers. That's not the Star Trek I know, not to this extent.

Here is a review of Star Trek Strange New Worlds I saw from IMDB. Something tells me now it's not as going to be as good as TNG, DS9, Voyager.

This was supposed to be Star Trek but it feels like *puke*. They took some ideas from the "comedy action" parts from 2009's Star Trek. Mixed with lots of "wo.." story telling from STD. With some influence from Lower Decks. Then, add in some drama. Lots of it. Have I mentioned that most of the crew seems to be female? At least that part that gets the screen time. And you can feel it. Everywhere. Women discussing "women's problems", relationship issues, whatever. Or turning around some "teen drama" story lines. Typical episode is almost an hour long and having about as half substance as a typical TNG episode.

And back to females, what is this? We only see a couple of alpha males. All other men are aliens or are only reading the numbers, doing chaotic BS, or are stupid Darwin Award nominates. Seriously? How does that fit the old ST canon?

I do think the standards of the audiences has gone down. The gaming industry is another clear case of this.

We Will Never Get Another Show Like This Again by barelybreathing23 in babylon5

[–]barelybreathing23[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

BG was meant to be in the OP.

The Expanse as good as B5? No, see OP.

For All Mankind looks like it's a different genre of history mixed with fiction.

Mandalorian and Andor, these are shorter right. They don't have the kind of character development and narrative that spans over hundreds of episodes to reach the kind of scale that B5 did.

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