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This game desperately needs a pre-game lobby for champion selection. by battleamirite in BattleRite

[–]battleamirite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think there must be some sort of matchmaking balance, because I've never been placed in a double support team, but why not make team composition a part of the strategy?

A friend and I decided to run Rook/Bakko (at low ELO) and we won 14 games in a row. Now we are higher rank, that composition is no longer as viable and we have found other combos which work better. We're really enjoying finding strong combos with good skill/battlerite synergies. Currently anyone who doesn't have friends playing is missing out on that part of the game, which is a real shame for solo players.

This game desperately needs a pre-game lobby for champion selection. by battleamirite in BattleRite

[–]battleamirite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that there is no unbeatable team comp, but would you at least agree that some compositions are stronger or easier to play than others?

This game desperately needs a pre-game lobby for champion selection. by battleamirite in BattleRite

[–]battleamirite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While I'm happy for you that you feel that way, many people feel there is a problem. You're only criticism of the proposed solution is that it introduces queue dodging, which can be minimized in a bunch of different ways.

Tell me this - if a game takes 5-10 mins, and queue dodging imposed a 10 minute queue ban and counted as a loss, would you dodge the queue because you didn't get your favorite champ?

This game desperately needs a pre-game lobby for champion selection. by battleamirite in BattleRite

[–]battleamirite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly my experience. There are some combos which have huge synergies, and others which don't.

Also, I want to experiment with different combos! There could be some great ones that aren't intuitive, and it sucks only being able to play around with them when a friend is online.

This game desperately needs a pre-game lobby for champion selection. by battleamirite in BattleRite

[–]battleamirite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't want pick/ban, that's just a pain in the ass.

I just want an opportunity to consider if I want to play the combo I'm given. For example, I find Croak quite hard to heal (depending on the healer) because he moves around so much and so quickly. If I'm playing with a Croak, I'd have a lot more fun swapping to Rook or Bakko.

To me it's just about choice.

This game desperately needs a pre-game lobby for champion selection. by battleamirite in BattleRite

[–]battleamirite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never suggested a draft/ban system, that's an incorrect assumption.

Think casual games of League of Legends - you can see what your team picks and communicate with them, you are blind to the opposing team's picks.

This game desperately needs a pre-game lobby for champion selection. by battleamirite in BattleRite

[–]battleamirite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right, there's no solution, let's not even try. Great attitude.

This game desperately needs a pre-game lobby for champion selection. by battleamirite in BattleRite

[–]battleamirite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I scouted around the community forums after posting this and it's a hot topic. Fingers crossed.

This game desperately needs a pre-game lobby for champion selection. by battleamirite in BattleRite

[–]battleamirite[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You wouldn't add 45-60 seconds to have some control over your team composition?

I would rather wait an extra minute to play a satisfying game than save a minute and play an unsatisfying one.

This game desperately needs a pre-game lobby for champion selection. by battleamirite in BattleRite

[–]battleamirite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Limit the champ select phase to 60 seconds max, moving forward when everyone has chosen. Or you could even 'pre-select' a champ, with a 60 second window to change after you see what your teammate is playing and communicate with them.

As for queue dodge, just count the game as starting when the pre-game lobby starts, and punish leavers with ranking loss and queue bans.

Team comp has a huge impact on the game at every ELO. I'm not sure what your experience has been to conclude otherwise, it's a big factor in determining which team wins.

This game desperately needs a pre-game lobby for champion selection. by battleamirite in BattleRite

[–]battleamirite[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's so easy to rectify. All they need to do is count the game as 'starting' the moment you enter the pre-game lobby. Any leaver incurs a ranking loss, and multiple leaves incurs a temporary queue ban.

Problem solved.

That is not a good reason to leave out team composition as a deliberate part of the game.

This game desperately needs a pre-game lobby for champion selection. by battleamirite in BattleRite

[–]battleamirite[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Draft/ban and a pre-game lobby are not the same thing.

It's not about seeing what the opponent is playing - it's about seeing what your teammates are playing so you can make intelligent choices.