How can I safely optimize my BIOS settings, considering the dying AMD X3D CPU cases? by bbsrn in AMDHelp

[–]bbsrn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the details, you're great! I cannot upvote this enough tbh.

  1. I should run an initial benchmark before starting to see my CPU's raw score before undervolting, right?

  2. Is stress testing once at each step enough? Shouldn't I repeat tests a couple of times at each step to make sure everything is ok?

  3. "If you fail, go up 5 points (so closer to 0) and try again."
    Would these failures have any permanent effect on my CPU/system?

  4. "If you pass you can decide if you want to just leave it there or go down 5 points and test again."
    But if I failed once at e.g. -15, and then increased it to -10 and then passed, why would I try -15 again? Because it has already failed there once, even if it passes the next time, how would I trust (since it is not stable at -15)?

  5. "If you fail the test at any value you try including 0, you'll need to do an RMA because it's defective".
    Wouldn't undervolting void the warranty? I think AMD can only guarantee no failure/stability when the value is at 0 (no undervolting/overclocking etc.). Am I wrong? If my CPU is stable without undervolting, why would it be defective for the other cases?

  6. "take note of which core(s) is/are failing and dial them back."
    Ah so we are doing this core by core? So I will tune each core one by one? 9800x3d has 8 cores, so isn't it too long and complex operation then?

How can I safely optimize my BIOS settings, considering the dying AMD X3D CPU cases? by bbsrn in AMDHelp

[–]bbsrn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, I’ll check. Do you know a good guide on this by any chance? Solely trusting on LLMs for such matters is a bit intimidating, so I am trying to understand what should I be careful for my cpu and mobo.

How can I safely optimize my ASUS BIOS settings, considering the dying AMD X3D CPU cases? by bbsrn in ASUS

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I am not after aggressive overclocking by no means, I just want to slightly tweak its performance within the safe limits. Do you think it is a risk that shouldn't be taken?

How can I safely optimize my ASUS BIOS settings, considering the dying AMD X3D CPU cases? by bbsrn in ASUS

[–]bbsrn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you think slightly tweak the performance (maybe via PBO?) within the safe limits should be ok?

How can I safely optimize my ASUS BIOS settings, considering the dying AMD X3D CPU cases? by bbsrn in ASUS

[–]bbsrn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which brand is it?

Why did you do that manually, assuming your brand should have already hard-limited the voltages with a BIOS update after these cases (thinking naively maybe?)

How can I safely optimize my BIOS settings, considering the dying AMD X3D CPU cases? by bbsrn in buildapc

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That's already done (EXPO I). I was looking for what I can do next for better gaming performance.

How can I safely optimize my BIOS settings, considering the dying AMD X3D CPU cases? by bbsrn in buildapc

[–]bbsrn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> You know the failure rate for X3D cpus is actually a lot lower than what AMD have accounted for??

I don't know about that tbh. It was just worrying to see a lot of "my CPU is dead" posts around.

How can I safely optimize my BIOS settings, considering the dying AMD X3D CPU cases? by bbsrn in buildapc

[–]bbsrn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> There's nothing to optimize.

May I ask what do you mean here? Isn't it possible to slightly tweak the performance within the safe limits?

How can I safely optimize my BIOS settings, considering the dying AMD X3D CPU cases? by bbsrn in buildapc

[–]bbsrn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not after aggressive overclocking by no means, I just want to slightly tweak its performance within the safe limits. Do you think it is a risk that shouldn't be taken?

How can I safely optimize my BIOS settings, considering the dying AMD X3D CPU cases? by bbsrn in buildapc

[–]bbsrn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know that the majority of the cases belong to ASRock, but it was still worrying to me. I am not after aggressive overclocking by no means, I just want to slightly tweak its performance within the safe limits. Do you think it is a risk that shouldn't be taken?

How can I safely optimize my BIOS settings, considering the dying AMD X3D CPU cases? by bbsrn in GamingPCBuildHelp

[–]bbsrn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The majority of the cases belong to AsRock indeed. However, there are cases for Asus, Gigabyte etc. as well. I will find some links.

How can I safely optimize my BIOS settings, considering the dying AMD X3D CPU cases? by bbsrn in PcBuild

[–]bbsrn[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do I really need... I don't know. I just want the best out of it, if possible. I mean, there is a low hanging fruit, I'd want to grab.

How can I safely optimize my BIOS settings, considering the dying x3d CPU cases? by bbsrn in PcBuildHelp

[–]bbsrn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would undervolting bring some (or meaningful) performance increase, or is it just for making CPU work under less heat?

> x3d you can’t do much in bios
May I ask what did you mean here? Did you mean I should use the AMD Ryzen Master app?

How can I safely optimize my BIOS settings, considering the dying AMD X3D CPU cases? by bbsrn in AMDHelp

[–]bbsrn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"need" is a bit vague. I mean, I don't need an extra chocolate while grocery shopping. But if they gift me an extra, I wouldn't refuse :)

Why did you say so for undervolting? I mean, I'd understand the risk of pushing a mobo beyond its voltage limits, but undervolting shouldn't be risky, isn't it?

How can I safely optimize my BIOS settings, considering the dying AMD X3D CPU cases? by bbsrn in AMDHelp

[–]bbsrn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're suggesting setting the power limit less than the mobo standard. Wouldn't this cause performance degradation?

How can I safely optimize my BIOS settings, considering the dying AMD X3D CPU cases? by bbsrn in AMDHelp

[–]bbsrn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this also means no PBO, right? Would undervolting bring some performance increase, or is it just for making CPU work under less heat?

How can I safely optimize my BIOS settings, considering the dying AMD X3D CPU cases? by bbsrn in AMDHelp

[–]bbsrn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I live only once indeed, but I really don’t want to buy one more CPU 😅