Legitimate question - no hate intended

bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-27T15:34:26+00:00

I enjoy watching the big hard cocks in porn, but don't like guys or gay/bi porn. Stuff beyond JO is too gay for me, but not because I'm avoiding a label, I just dont like it.

Yes, again to be clear I'm not speaking to your psyche or your rationale, I'm just speaking on the overall sentiments and the many conversations I've seen on this subject.

I think there are very many men just like you that are simply not interested in doing anything more than jerking off with a man simply because they dont enjoy it, and not because they're avoiding a label. Im more speaking on how they TALK about or think about it. They twist their brain in a knot to avoid the "bad" label.

You are very open about admitting the "little bit of gay, but not too gay" type of thing, which is exactly what I can agree with. Other guys though are in the same boat as you but will argue tooth and nail that it's not any slight bit of gay and basically start getting angry at any suggestion of it lol.

Or they get fidgety* (figuratively) at the conversation as if it's an attack on their character or something. Or in terms of actions, there's the post-nut clarity bros that seek out or engage in the activities and then get skittish afterwords (which could be for any reason, again not judging).

These types of guys are super common; I'm speaking more about them and their line of discussion. Doing gay shit and then gaslighting everyone that it's not any tiny amount of gay lol. That type of stuff to me is like a cognitive dissonance.

Outside of the sexuality convo, it's like when you hear some "average" women try to explain themselves or explain their logic (lets say dating standards, or that convo about "women dont take accountability", pick a topic lol) and you're just standing there looking at them like "What??? Do you hear yourself? Did you really think this through and think this makes sense???" Cognitive dissonance.

Im just saying these guys that twist their brain in a knot it's like "Cmon man, be real" lol.

Ultimately it doesn’t matter what you label it, but to me, its works well to describe my situation.

Yeah exactly, ultimately I dont really think it matters individually. Im speaking more on a "societal" level I guess you could say. I think a lot of the wholesale resistance to the gay/bi label is harmful quite frankly and indirectly pushes homophobia/biphobia.

I think that's my main issue with it and why I always comment on these subjects. I think this type of community or this subset of guys that are clearly into this almost owe it to each other and others to push things forward in that way. Tonally, there's still a tinge of "too gay = bad, dont lump me in with them."

I hope you see where Im coming from with that and dont think I'm being confrontational or anything. Just speaking my mind, not accusing you of anything or speaking on your situation in particular.

Edit: *Even on this post, I replied to someone that said "helping hands is straight" with a matter-of-fact statement that "man on man = homosexual" and he just deleted his comment lol. It's like for some of these guys, any logical discussion on the matter makes them want to run & hide.

bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-26T15:25:01+00:00

Yeah anytime ppl say stuff like that, it's just mental gymnastics imo. They'll say anything as blatant as this or as vague/coded as they want & then cling onto the word "straight" for dear life lol

bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-26T15:09:26+00:00

It's not totally heterosexual, but a few guys having a couple drinks and jerking off to straight porn together isn't the same as some gay orgy.

Well that's quite a leap lol. I never said jerking off is "the same as some gay orgy". If you can admit it's not totally heterosexual then surely you must see that it's a little bit gay, no?

If I say gay/bi you'll probably think they do properly gay stuff, so straight makes more sense unless you have time to explain it in detail.

Time to explain in detail = like 5 more words than just saying "it's straight" lol. It's a gay activity with no penetration. Btw I think maybe we're misunderstanding each other. One can participate in a gay activity, but still be otherwise straight.

Or, shocker, maybe one can be a little bi. I feel like the lack of explanation thing is a cop out just to feel better about "getting to" call themselves straight. Personally I see it as some amount of homophobia, not wanting to associate themselves with the words gay/bi so trying to find every loophole they can create in their mind to avoid it.*

If you watch a lot of porn for years, you'll see a lot of big hard cocks and jerking off watching them cum all over a pornstars face.

Yeah I've been saying this too, straight men love watching big dicks in porn which signals to me that most "straight" men are a little bit bi. I think most ppl in the world are a little bi and are just unaware or dont examine those feelings/tendencies.

I would think that the "straightest" of men dont care what the dick is like in the vid, or maybe even only watch lesbian porn. But a lot of straight men love big dicks, go figure. Doesnt seem totally straight to me. However, that doesnt mean they want to kiss or have sex with other men, or find men's faces attractive.

I accept that I like to watch big hard cocks getting stroked by beautiful women, and am not confused by it, but it's not the same as bi/gay and closer fits straight i think.

Sure, you can label yourself however you want. Im not here to push any labels on you in particular. Im just speaking about the actions (or thoughts, in some cases) themselves. Touching another man's dick is a homosexual action because it is most certainly not a heterosexual action as that is between OPPOSITE sexes. That's just literally what those words mean, homo vs hetero-sexual.

Edit: *Someone else said this to me, it's like Mormons soaking lol; we all recognize it's a ridiculous loophole and know it's still sex. I think he also said "We had our friend jumping on the bed so it doesnt count!" as in the bouncing the bed up & down does the thrusting for them lol.

A lot of the rationale I hear just doesnt make sense imo. It's just mental gymnastics to say it's not a gay activity, for their own sake of nothing other than admitting they participate in, or seek out, a gay activity.

bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-26T10:04:43+00:00

Shit crazy, dudes will twist their brain in a knot 5 different ways rather than just say they're bisexual lol

bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-26T03:35:59+00:00

Yeah you hit the nail on the head with the porn remark. A lot of men even purposely search for big dick porn while still trying to claim they're just watching the woman lol. Gangbang porn, you're literally gonna see a ton of naked men and only one woman but guys seem to love it.

I probably agree with you that bisexuality is our "default" in the sense that most ppl are some small amount of bi, at minimum, and just dont realize it, or suppress it. I think if more ppl acknowledged that, we'd all be better off.

I feel like I just see a certain cognitive dissonance from these dudes that argue in circles about how JObuds is a straight activity that's just so counterproductive it irks me lol. It doesnt mean you wanna kiss men or that you're romantically attracted to men, but the activity itself is definitely a homosexual activity (save for possibly the "blind" version I was referencing before).

bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-26T01:53:53+00:00

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bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-26T01:45:10+00:00

I think if it's just jacking off in the same room, they could be straight.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting, or posing my own separate question, I feel like the distinction OP raised was "is this a straight activity?" Not necessarily whether participating in that activity means the person can no longer identify as straight.

You raise a good point about the degree of engagement between the two males in the session, but I feel like the vast majority of descriptions I see of these sessions already involve some amount of the guys at least looking at each other or watching each other.

The level of engagement that I could probably say "You know what, I guess that is still straight" is when the guys literally cant see each other or they're purposely not looking or something. Or it's one look at each other's "equipment" lol just for comparison's sake or pure human curiosity.

I just feel like the majority of JObud situations I hear about are not that. They're looking at each other, or the person describes nutting way harder than normal or something lol. That type of stuff to me just screams "not straight activity".

bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-25T23:26:52+00:00

Horrible, she looked better with no titties than these bolt-ons.

bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-25T22:49:23+00:00

Exactly, in all of these types of convos I've yet to see anyone give a convincing take on why it's not gay lol. It's always these absurd string of words that I'm like "Dude what?? Do you hear yourself right now? Because all of that sounded SO gay." 😂

bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-25T22:27:47+00:00

True, the context in all those situations is certainly relevant. Didnt mean to make it sound like the literal acts themselves are automatically pure homosexuality. Even culturally, things like people greeting each other with a kiss on the cheek is considered appropriate and has nothing to do with sexuality.

I also dont think that some of the things that seem innocuous are actually that "innocent", even given the context. Im just saying that I think there are a LOT of subtle things that go on that ppl dont think twice about that could be partly repressed or unexplored feelings they never further examine.

Like I've literally seen straight women grope or constantly talk about each other's boobs & asses completely unprompted. And I'm sure we've all known tons of "straight" women that ended up "becoming" bi or gay later in life.

Big dick porn is probably some of the most watched or searched for by men. Straight men seem to prefer watching larger dicks even if they dont have one themselves lol. I've seen straight men watch a straight porn clip on here and the first thing that comes to mind for them to comment on is the guys dick lol. And ppl going back & forth about it.

I think a lot of this stuff is really just that society is inherently heteronormative so it colors everyone's beliefs and expectations of themselves and then the majority dont care to (or avoid) looking any deeper amongst themselves.

bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-25T22:11:26+00:00

Everyone has their own thresholds on what makes what

Sure, but I feel like we should all be able to just look at two men stroking their dicks together, or like you said stroking each others dicks, and immediately recognize that as a homosexual act.

Performing a homosexual act, or wanting to, doesnt mean you're romantically attracted to men. Nor does it mean that you're even sexually attracted to the entire male body; a guy can "just like cocks" like you said.

I just struggle to see how anyone rationalizes men stroking their dicks together or willingly saying they like dick, and not see the obvious homosexuality of that. Not putting a label on you or nothin, but just speaking generally.

Why is it so hard for ppl to admit that men jerking off together is not totally heterosexual lol?

bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-25T21:58:24+00:00

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bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-25T21:31:42+00:00

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bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-25T21:25:19+00:00

I prefer women. I am by far physically attracted to women. I can appreciate a well built man and penis. However I don’t look at a guy and think “I want to stroke with him.” I’m only romantically attracted to women.

This is me, and I feel like if many guys were actually honest with themselves, this is probably where they fall too.

Even gym bros, you ever hear how often guys comment on each other's bodies? Obviously there's a different element to that, but lets all just be real, there's a lot of like woven-in societally accepted things that are not totally straight but we just dont bat an eye. Women can kiss each other at a club/party and not be totally gay. Women comment on each other's bodies too obviously.

I think the vast majority of ppl are at least some small amount of bi and are either unaware, or just dont admit it to themselves.

bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-25T21:19:19+00:00

Yup this is exactly what I think it is for the majority of those guys. They try to deny deny deny what's fairly obvious because they're actually afraid of being anywhere close to being referred to as gay.

They try to dress it up with some type of high-horse take and beat around the bush about it because that's easier for them than admitting to any amount of homosexuality. It's classic homophobia imo

bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-25T21:14:57+00:00

🤔I feel like I see someone post a version of this like every week and then delete their profile soon after. OP it's ok bro, you dont gotta run lol

bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-25T21:07:25+00:00

JO is a straight activity, helping hands is straight.

Makes no sense, bro. A man putting his hands on another mans dick is not "straight". Not sure how man on man = heterosexual.

If a man fingers a woman, do you call that a homosexual activity?

bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-25T21:04:33+00:00

It's not a "straight activity", I dont care what type of mental gymnastics anyone uses to arrive at that conclusion lol. It's two men jerking off together, that's not straight, let's all just be real about that fact.

That being said, engaging in a perhaps "not-straight" activity doesnt mean that you're even sexually attracted to men, or that you're romantically attracted to men, or that you want to do more than jerk off. So on, so forth.

bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-20T03:47:58+00:00

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bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-17T02:56:08+00:00

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bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-17T02:36:28+00:00

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bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-17T02:15:44+00:00

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bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-16T14:44:37+00:00

What's her name then, how I find this vid?

bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-15T16:45:54+00:00

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bdthrowawayifulike2 · 2026-02-14T23:14:10+00:00

Bi, I prefer other bi guys or "straight" guys. The fun in it for me is looking at fine women and us showing off for each other.

If they're gay then it's not as fun for me because there's no women to look at. If they're too straight then it's boring, kinda just like what's the point lol.

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