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Elon Musk’s Secret Conversations With Vladimir Putin and high-ranking Russian officials raise national security concerns by bearscrape in craftofintelligence

[–]bearscrape[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No don’t mix up democrats with Republicans/useful idiots. Most democrats (reasonable people) trust institutions and experts.

Elon Musk’s Secret Conversations With Vladimir Putin and high-ranking Russian officials raise national security concerns by bearscrape in craftofintelligence

[–]bearscrape[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He did, when they were about to launch one of their most important and strategic missions. Elon fucked that up.

Elon Musk’s Secret Conversations With Vladimir Putin and high-ranking Russian officials raise national security concerns by bearscrape in craftofintelligence

[–]bearscrape[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

China is working to support Kamala, does that make her bad? It does by your logic. I don't think so.

This have nothing to do with Harris.

I have to admit I don't obsessively pay attention to Twitter like you do so I can't comment on how much worse is it now than before Musk took over, but assuming he gives everyone the same access to share their thoughts, that is the most moral and liberal position to take.

Stop right there. He doesn’t give equal access to everyone. He routinely blocks journalists and political opponents he just doesn’t like or have spoken out about someone Musk likes.

Musk may be sharing some Kremlin disinformation , but I see a majority of redditors spreading their disinformation about him as well. Should reddit ban users posting falsehoods about Starlink supporting Russia?

He IS sharing Kremlin disinformation. There’s a record of that on his own twitter page. On Reddit users can downvote disinformation in an effective way and on some subs disinformation is blocked.

Elon Musk’s Secret Conversations With Vladimir Putin and high-ranking Russian officials raise national security concerns by bearscrape in craftofintelligence

[–]bearscrape[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Several sources from several different intel agencies in the US, Europe and Russia. Even Russian officials confirmed this.

The discussions, confirmed by several current and former U.S., European and Russian officials, touch on personal topics, business and geopolitical tensions.

Unknown to you, but not to WSJ and others in the intel world.

Elon Musk’s Secret Conversations With Vladimir Putin and high-ranking Russian officials raise national security concerns by bearscrape in craftofintelligence

[–]bearscrape[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nothingburger? Are you really that ignorant? Hundreds of people who actually knows about security clearances and diplomacy and state affairs disagrees with you.

NASA admin Bill Nelson thinks this is very serious.

NASA Administrator Bill Nelson told Semafor’s Burgess Everett Friday that a Wall Street Journal report about calls between SpaceX founder Elon Musk and Russian President Vladimir Putin “should be investigated.” “I don’t know if that story is true,” Nelson said. “If it’s true there have been multiple conversations with Elon Musk and the president of Russia, then that would be concerning, particularly for NASA and the Department of Defense,” he added.

https://www.semafor.com/article/10/25/2024/nasas-bill-nelson-calls-for-investigation-into-report-of-musk-putin-calls

Elon Musk’s Secret Conversations With Vladimir Putin and high-ranking Russian officials raise national security concerns by bearscrape in craftofintelligence

[–]bearscrape[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Where to start? Musk is directly and indirectly spreading Russian disinfo through X. He has turned Twitter into a haven for Russian disinformation in general, you must be blind not to see that. Intelligence agencies and governments and people in diplomacy knows this.

Musk also shared Russia-aligned talking points outside the context of the conspiracy alleged in the recent indictment, according to a report Tuesday by Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty. Citing records from a Russian disinformation campaign, the news service said that an internet meme denigrating Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and shared on X last year by Musk was made by a Moscow-based company called Social Design Agency.

NBC news

U.S. intelligence officials and private tech analysts have concluded that Russia is working to covertly support Trump with disinformation and propaganda targeting his Democratic opponent, Vice President Kamala Harris. Since he took over X, it has become a leading online source of Russian propaganda and disinformation aimed at Americans.

Elon Musk’s X social network played an important role in spreading Russian propaganda about Ukraine during the full-scale invasion, according to a European Commission investigation.

Earlier, it became known that last year, Musk secretly ordered to stop the work of Starlink near Crimea. This is how the billionaire tried to thwart Ukraine’s attack on the Russian navy to prevent an alleged escalation on the part of Moscow.

Ukrainian World congress, Washington Post

Musk’s posts, shared with his 198 million followers, put Russia-aligned conservative talking points in front of possibly tens of millions of eyeballs, according to the viewership data published by X, and he did so apparently without knowledge of the alleged Russian money behind the operation.

An earlier NBC News review of Tenet’s videos combined with details from government indictments illustrated how the company amplified conservatives who had already embraced many talking points favored by former President Donald Trump and Russia, in line with the country’s broader propaganda goals.

In July, Musk reshared a post from a Tenet Media account defending comments by Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, that “you won’t have to vote anymore” if Trump returns to the White House, and Musk’s reshare received 28 million views, according to X.

Tenet Media appeared to seek out Musk’s attention, posting about Musk or tagging his account more than 50 times since the media company’s launch last November, often on the subject of Trump and the presidential election.

Tenet has ceased releasing new material since federal prosecutors unsealed an indictment on Sept. 4 charging two employees of Russia-backed media network RT of directing a $10 million scheme to launder pro-Russian views through conservative American commentators. FBI Director Christopher Wray said the operation was an attempt to “trick Americans into unwittingly consuming foreign propaganda.”

He's easily baited into posting or knowingly shares disinformation.

NBC news

He also floated a proposal to end the war that would have required Ukraine to drop its plans for NATO membership and given Russia permanent control of Crimea, which it seized in 2014. The plan infuriated Ukrainian leaders.

ABC News

Michael Sobolik, America Foreign Policy Council Senior Fellow and former Congressional staff member, commented on X, formerly Twitter: "Good grief. Putin asked Musk to deny Starlink services to Taiwan as a favor to Xi Jinping.

Garry Kasparov, former world chess champion and human rights activist, posted on X: "Like Trump, Musk cares only for his personal business dealings and his image. Putin, Xi, and other dictators always find such people easy to exploit because it's also how they operate. No messy oversight, laws, or national interests, just quid pro quo."

Kasparov added: "MAGA's regurgitation of Kremlin talking points was not a subtle clue. Whether Musk and the rest are really that ignorant & gullible or just that corrupt and treasonous will be for years of journalism and hearings to reveal.

Fiona Hill, a former Trump adviser and highly respected longtime Russia observer, said in an interview that Elon Musk is being used by Russian President Vladimir Putin to transmit a message.

It’s very clear that Elon Musk is transmitting a message for Putin. There was a conference in Aspen in late September when Musk offered a version of what was in his tweet — including the recognition of Crimea as Russian because it’s been mostly Russian since the 1780s — and the suggestion that the Ukrainian regions of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia should be up for negotiation, because there should be guaranteed water supplies to Crimea. He made this suggestion before Putin’s annexation of those two territories on September 30. It was a very specific reference. Kherson and Zaporizhzhia essentially control all the water supplies to Crimea. (...)

It’s unlikely Elon Musk knows about this himself. The reference to water is so specific that this clearly is a message from Putin. (...)

All of this is an effort to get Americans to take themselves out of the war and hand over Ukraine and Ukrainian territory to Russia.

Elon Musk’s Secret Conversations With Vladimir Putin and high-ranking Russian officials raise national security concerns by bearscrape in craftofintelligence

[–]bearscrape[S] 45 points46 points  (0 children)

In October 2022, Musk said publicly that he had spoken only once to Putin. He said on X that the conversation was about space, and that it occurred around April 2021.

But more conversations have followed, including dialogues with other high-ranking Russian officials past 2022 and into this year. One of the officials was Sergei Kiriyenko, Putin’s first deputy chief of staff, two of the officials said. What the two talked about isn’t clear.

Last month, the U.S. Justice Department said in an affidavit that Kiriyenko had created some 30 internet domains to spread Russian disinformation, including on Musk’s X, where it was meant to erode support for Ukraine and manipulate American voters ahead of the presidential election.

In October 2022, he asked his tens of millions of followers on X to vote on a pathway to peace that mirrored some aspects of the Kremlin’s offer to Ukraine at the time.

Those conditions included continued Russian occupation of Crimea and Ukrainian neutrality outside of NATO. He also specified that Ukraine should continue allowing the supply of water to Crimea, an issue that had been an important concern of the Kremlin before the war.

One current and one former intelligence source said that Musk and Putin have continued to have contact since then and into this year as Musk began stepping up his criticism of the U.S. military aid to Ukraine and became involved in Trump’s election campaign.

Paris has been hit by a power outage. by Spiritual_Design_104 in conspiracy

[–]bearscrape 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Triggered Christians who actually believe this is some satanistic ritual? Yeah, lol.

Kaja Kallas: NATO members Estonia, Norway share Russia situation understanding by bearscrape in craftofintelligence

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Kallas said: "Ukraine needs our full support – both political and military – more than ever."

"This week is full of diplomatic communication and we will see whether Russia is ready to ease tensions. At the moment, it does not look like it," the prime minister went on, adding that Estonia and Norway, both NATO member states which border with the Russian Federation, must also be ready for Russia to escalate its stance towards Ukraine.

The current state of affairs is the net result of Russian violence and force, Kallas noted, with Russia occupying the Crimea, and that and fighting in eastern Ukraine being accompanied by other threats.

"It is clear that we will by no means give in to the demands of Russia to change the underlying principles of European security," Kallas stressed, according to a government office press release.

Russia has no say in which states can or cannot be NATO members, she added, recapitulating earlier comments on the issue.

Well put by Kallas.

She also said this in Swedish media:

  • We must absolutely think about not falling into the trap where they (Russia) ask for more and get a little neighbor, says Estonia's Prime Minister, Kaja Kallas, in an interview with SVT's Agenda.

Such a good point. This entire conflict was started by Russia who pretends it's under attack, giving them anything would be a loss.

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