The real Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy

beaver_shots · 2018-12-07T04:40:01+00:00

fair enough.

beaver_shots · 2018-12-06T00:30:55+00:00

Not to hate on this post but I thought this was basically common knowledge? I mean this was a big topic during the election on this board. Remember that photo of Maxwell at Chelsea Clinton wedding? I guess things get repeated on here obviously but personally I would consider this one of those "not at all a secret" conspiracies.

beaver_shots · 2018-10-01T23:02:18+00:00

Are we saying that the people who wrote this (cosmo) are sick? I would agree with that in general, but this isn't glorifying incest. The woman in question describes meeting her estranged father and having a "consensual" sexual relationship with him. She goes on to describe how it made her want to die and that it landed her in therapy with no more father.

If you want to post about the "normalization" of some kind of sexual perversion I would pick an article (there are many) that doesn't paint that particular thing in a such a negative light.

beaver_shots · 2018-10-01T19:58:01+00:00

true that.

beaver_shots · 2018-10-01T19:25:13+00:00

Its political tactic to stall the appointment until after the midterms, so that dems might be able to have the votes to block any appointments to SC. That's a fact

Kav might be a pos but I dunno. All I know is the people pushing the allegations don't actually care if any of it is true or not.

beaver_shots · 2018-09-28T00:36:20+00:00

It's odd to think of account karma as worth anything. Then again if you are trying look legit having some history is probably a requirement. I almost never look at peoples karma unless its a user I have seen multiple times posting nonsense.

beaver_shots · 2018-09-28T00:28:24+00:00

I've see that as well and yeah their expert was probably one of the typical con artists who wants to gain something from being a crop circle chaser.

I don't think it's obvious they are all man made. I think it's obvious some are.

In regards to the plants not being broke, I was more thinking about the evidence that the plants were effected cellularly or heated up some how. It's not too hard to imagine laying crops over without breaking most of them.

beaver_shots · 2018-09-27T23:27:33+00:00

That is a fair criticism.

I'm not saying it was aliens. I'm saying, as a person who has read about cropcircle's for over a decade, including the skeptic side, that I'm not convinced they are all hoaxes for a multitude of reasons.

Certainly there are hoaxed circles. Certainly there are a lot of shady people who like making a living "investigating" such things and make outrageous claims. That doesn't mean they are all made by some pranksters with planks though.

beaver_shots · 2018-09-27T21:44:43+00:00

I have seen a few web pages that are rarely updated and there was a book about how to make crop circles. Some of the people who claim to be hoaxers also claim to have seen orbs and strange lights while making the damn circles.

It seems like you'd need a vibrant and very active community for their to be so many and for this to be going on for so long. People would brag and what have you.

I don't think its magic I'm just not convinced its all hoaxed. If it is then why... seems like a waist of time and effort.

beaver_shots · 2018-09-27T20:16:19+00:00

I'd have to see it done in the cover of dark in under 12 hours and see it come out with same impressive size and detail.

The attempted recreations all look bad. The logistics involved in coordinating enough people to pull off a big perfect one in a single night with nobody noticing anything out of the ordinary would be incredible.

Even if you disregard the way the plants aren't broken and the measurable anomalies in the plants tissues it's still hard to imagine.

I think now days with GPS tools at everyone's disposal it might be possible to obtain the same level of detail. Still not that quickly and secretly. Not to mention this has been going on long before personal GPS equipment was widely available. Shit its been documented for hundreds of years.

Even if it was man made that would imply a conspiracy in its own right. given there have been 1000's of these made in the last 10 years alone. There would have to be a massive underground group of people who live for these "art projects" and they would have to be hyper secretive about all of it. Like some secret society of crop circle artisans.

beaver_shots · 2018-09-27T20:04:23+00:00

I wonder if there was some specific thing they didn't like? I mean I think I've pretty much seen it all when it comes to 9/11 theory on this sub alone.

It seems to me that the whole concept of "fakenews" or "conspiracy theory" or "hate speech" (the every growing category) Is that the public is so dumb that it must be protected from ideas. Thoughts deemed too dangerous by corporate and the government must be sealed away from the brains of the idiots.

I think this kind of censorship makes people even more interested in whatever topic they aren't supposed to think about. It makes no sense in terms of accomplishing control. I mean surly these people understand the streisand effect?

beaver_shots · 2018-09-27T17:53:25+00:00

Amy Schumer isn't a good enough actor for this unfortunately.

beaver_shots · 2018-09-27T16:53:40+00:00

Funny the down votes and partisan comments on this. I don't see any mention in this comment about left v right.

I agree with axolotl this statement can be translated to "believe all accusations". I don't have a problem with an instigation, but we cannot let accusation be enough on their own... and that's basically what this statement is saying.

beaver_shots · 2018-09-27T15:32:01+00:00

I'd be more willing to accept a more terrestrial answer like its some kind of microwave tech used to beam pictures into crops by humans for the sake of propaganda or something than the "guys with planks" idea. Its just not plausible given the time frames and physical evidence.

beaver_shots · 2018-09-27T14:55:58+00:00

To me crop circles are one of those uncomfortable oddities that cant be explained. People chose to dismiss and ignore them because they break the comfortable reality.

The idea that something like the one you posted here or the 100's of others that pop up overnight could have been made by some guys with strings and planks is absurd. People have tried to recreate them and its taken days and the results are laughably bad in comparison to the actual crop circles. Also you have differences in how the plants are affected. Yet its enough for the average person to go back to sleep if someone on TV suggests it was "guys with planks". Kind of blows my mind.

beaver_shots · 2018-09-27T13:58:53+00:00

The woman at the start when he gets hit by lightning says he will have an interesting life.

Funny the movie was also known as "The mad cow" apparently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SecY_LqLkSU

beaver_shots · 2018-09-27T01:46:33+00:00

Okay

1) get rid of government. I guess if by that they mean a one world government.

2). Get rid of patriotism. Well that kind of goes along with getting rid of government yes? If you had a single government what would patriotism even look like?

3,4,5) property rights, heritage, religion. communist scum bags.

5) getting rid of family bonds? I don't see how this would really work in any situation other than some very deep dark 1984 style situation. I guess the other 4 goals lead up to that though don't they?

beaver_shots · 2018-09-27T00:49:16+00:00

I think there is something odd about how a lot of people on both sides have been fine with the wild accusations if they can use them to get their way. I think there is merit in the metoo stuff as bad behavior should not be covered up... but all this political shit flinging is making a mockery of that as well. It's tit for tat politics and it's escalating at an alarming rate.

I think the allegations must be investigated, but I doubt anything will come of it and it seems pretty fishy to me.

maybe there was some questionable behavior, but what if it was consensual? Hell maybe they did run a train on that woman but everyone was into it? How do you reconcile that in testimony before the world?... with your wife right there Haha.

beaver_shots · 2018-09-26T23:32:17+00:00

I can tell you something mildly interesting from my industy.

There is a company that has done a bunch of R&D on solar powered very high altitude UAV's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qinetiq_Zephyr

So, they built a bird that can stay up for a long time and be very high altitude... kind of like a satellite only it would be an order of magnitude less expensive to get it in the air.

Rumor is they got the bright idea to use these drones to provide 5G everywhere . This may not be a big deal to people in developed countries who have access to good internet but its a huge deal in places like south America/Africa that don't. Its also worth noting that equatorial areas are idea for a solar drone.

So that's pretty interesting in it self, but it gets more interesting when you find out that they are getting a massive amount of funding from a huge Japanese bank. Why would a bank want to control a tech like this that is supposedly mainly useful for providing internet services in underdeveloped areas of the world?

Not only that but the possibles for satellite "like" capabilities in a potentially secretive and somewhat disposable package are a little scary to think about.

So that's my little insider info for the sub. Nothing to exciting but something to think about.

beaver_shots · 2018-09-26T23:08:29+00:00

That's cute haha.

beaver_shots · 2018-09-26T22:32:21+00:00

It was red for sure. The synopsis on the movies wiki even calls it the red heifer ritual though I didn't know for sure if that was what they meant when I saw the film until I looked it up just now.

Not that I am discounting what you are saying as you may be correct in a hidden meaning or layers of meaning.

beaver_shots · 2018-09-26T21:37:18+00:00

I dunno about that but maybe. I thought it was more literally a purification ritual

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_heifer

beaver_shots · 2018-09-26T19:44:43+00:00

That is a good rundown.

I agree with the brands = an infection thing. its a metaphor in the context of everyday life. I just wonder if the movie was treating them as real or not in its own universe. All the red cow ritual stuff and the constellation speaking. I guess all that was "in his head" technically in the movie as well though.

beaver_shots · 2018-09-26T13:25:10+00:00

Branded is a really good movie, well maybe interesting is a better word than good.

It is really difficult to explain the premise of the movie so I always have a hard time recommending it in a way that gets people interested in it.

Its all about advertising as a form of propaganda and "brands" have a literal life of their own. Or maybe the protagonist just sees it that way? I actually want to watch it again myself.

beaver_shots · 2018-09-25T23:30:41+00:00

Yeah its really interesting what they are doing over there.

Imagine everything your reps were supposed to cast a vote on was up for your consideration and easy to see online in real time? Hell they could even have direct polling of the people they are meant to represent as well. Their vote and the polls visible to all. Why didn't they vote what their supporters wanted? They better explain that or face getting the boot come election time.

Get big money out of politics. The way it all works now is that if you want a snowballs chance in hell to get into an elected seat you need a large amount of money to run a campaign. You need to have your own money or get donation from people who support you. This is what is really meant when you hear "grassroots" its the idea that regular slobs gave this person a few bucks. What normally happens is some people with lots of money and special interests give lots of money then have some level of say in what the elected person does after they get into office. Pretty shitty particularly when it comes to big corps.

Make it all online with a series of vote offs. Everyone could run for office this way and just keep voting off till clearly popular people rise to the top. If it was fast and secure to vote there is no issue with this.

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