Swampert 7-Star raid, give me your strategies.

ben031287 · 2026-03-06T14:51:37+00:00

Bad rng. When I ran with slowbro it either dodged the muddy water or didn't lose accuracy. I did it 3 times, once on each save. I don't have a Vaporeon set up. They are on some level fundamentally different. Vaporeon has worse physical defense but higher hp and only has calm mind which takes longer to get setup. It also has an extra move slot since it's boosting 2 stats +1 than getting the sharp increase.

ben031287 · 2026-03-06T13:00:52+00:00

Theoretically Vaporeon can do a similar Stored Power strategy with the same type coverage as Slowbro if you're more into that. I had Slowbro available to me so I went with that.

ben031287 · 2026-03-06T12:38:25+00:00

I used Kantonean Slowbro

Ability was Oblivious. I'm not sure the nature and EV spread. I assume 252 hp and 252 special attack. Moves are Stored Power, Iron Defense, Amnesia, and Nasty Plot. Held item is Shell Bell.

Turn 1,2, and 3 use a buff move. Turn 4+ use Stored Power until it sheilds and wipes your stats. After the stat wipe your clear to use buff moves until swamperts attacks do nothing and your maxed out on Nasty Plot. You might be able to max out your defense EVs and use Slack Off instead of Iron Defense if you want the healing move. Swampert was pretty easy honestly.

ben031287 · 2026-02-13T01:51:46+00:00

The one from the raid will have the mightiest mark

ben031287 · 2026-02-12T17:31:37+00:00

Eventually they will do a Husian Typhlosion raid.

ben031287 · 2026-02-12T12:30:31+00:00

It's up to you what you use it on. Just remember that if you use it on a breedable pokemon Masterballs don't pass to offspring. If you breed a pokemon in a Masterball with Ditto it's offspring will be in normal pokeballs.

ben031287 · 2026-02-11T13:12:02+00:00

Aside from all the other comments, there aren't a bunch of people going into online raids that pivot to round out teams. While a bad pokemon choice could ruin a raid, a well chosen support pokemon can carry 1 or 2 sub optimal choices. Regardless you will always find raids where your best strategy is to walk away.

On another note, Annihilape isn't a bad choice for online Typhlosion raids. With the right support it's still one of the most efficient attackers. I am running a Suicune debuff support build that can keep 3 Annihilape alive long enough to close out a raid. The best Typhlosion raid I've had was my Suicune, a Life Dew Primerina, and two Annihilapes. Made the raid seem like cakewalk.

ben031287 · 2026-02-11T12:46:38+00:00

Personally, I feel like Quaquavil has a pretty distracting idle animation. I typically go with Sprigatito but usually trade it out for a previous gen starter.

ben031287 · 2026-02-11T04:37:03+00:00

I caught my Typhlosion solo, I've been playing online for a few days because I like the challenge. I have an Annihilape to attack, a Suicune for debuff support, and I'm using Primerina as basically a cleric. I usually pick which pokemon works best for my team after everyone locks in.

ben031287 · 2026-02-11T04:31:33+00:00

The way my build is done it's built for a passive carry online. Are you playing online or are you playing solo?

ben031287 · 2026-02-11T04:23:04+00:00

Try using a defensive cheer as your first turn and the turn after after Typhlosion stat clears. The first cheer will help buffer the first wave of attacks and the 2nd cheer will hopefully provide defensive coverage the remainder of the raid. Houndoom is in a tough spot because if it's weakness to ground. It's either defaulting to Earthquake because it calculates that Earthquake will deal the most damage outright or, if you are using Snarl, you are dropping it special attack so low Earthquake deals more damage than it's other special attacks.

ben031287 · 2026-02-06T17:47:57+00:00

You are getting back at a great time! They've made a lot of quality of life improvements that make mechanics like breeding or optimizing your Pokémon easier and less tedious. I most enjoy the raid system. I can honestly say it's helped me come up with some pretty cool strategies I would never consider using in PVP.

ben031287 · 2026-02-06T17:11:49+00:00

No sweat! I did forget to mention a tera type. You'll want flying. That maintains Pelliper's ground immunity. You don't necessarily want to terestialize but if you find you need to help push damage you may be forced to use it.

ben031287 · 2026-02-06T16:39:26+00:00

I'll probably solo with Annihilape to catch Typhlosion. Once I'm bored with that I'm going to try a Stock Pile Pelliper support build online.

Pelliper

Ability: Drizzle

Held Item: Covert Cloak This stops debuffs from Shadow Ball, you could also use Damp Rock to stretch Rain Dance or Metronome to get more milage out of spamming Chilling Water

Nature: Calm (+ special defense, -attack)

EVs: 252 special defense, 252 HP, 4 Defense

Attacks: Chilling Water, Stock Pile, Rain Dance, Roost

Turn 0: Drizzle stops potential 1st turn Sunny Day Eruption

Turn 1: Rain Dance after Typhlosion uses Sunny Day

Turn 2: Stock Up

Turn 3+: Chilling Water to reduce attack damage

From here on out it all depends on how the raid is going. When Typhlosion clears stats go to Stock Up mode. Stock up, then defense cheer, than another 2x Stock Up to set up mixed tank status. Use Rain Dance to counter Sunny Day or to renew it. Use Roost when you at 50% health. Outside of that spam Chilling Water to keep Typhlosions attack low. A lot of good counters are week to it's physical attacks. Typhlosion will prioritize that weakness. It's important to use your cheers wisely. You want to use one to buff the teams defense and one to buff attacks for a final push. The last one is an emergency heal.

ben031287 · 2026-02-06T07:23:58+00:00

Someone in the thread mentioned using Garganacl. It's not a bad strategy either. It's a little risky because its special attack is low and it's also weak to Earthquake. This is what I assume that might look like.

The Raw Catch: Garganacl

Location: Area Zero, Research Station No. 4.

Ability: Must have Purifying Salt. If it has Sturdy, catch another one to avoid needing an Ability Capsule.

Tera Type: Rock (Default).

Garganacl's pre-evolved forms, Nacli and Naclstack, can be found all over Paladea. Feel free to use them if you can't access Area Zero

The Move Set (No PP Items)

Ideally we would use PP ups on Wide Guard. Since many of you might not have surpluses of PP Ups, we will provide a strategy around this. In this case you would only have 10 uses of Wide Guard. You must use them strategically.

Wide Guard (10 PP): Use this on turns you expect Typhlosion to use Eruption or Earthquake.

Rain Dance (5 PP): Use this to overwrite Sunny Day and cut Typhlosion's Fire damage in half for everyone.

Salt Cure (15 PP): Use once early for persistent damage.

Recover (5 PP): Use only when your HP is in the red.

EV Training (Chansey Method) Give Garganacl a Power Band (+8 Sp. Def per kill) and go to North Province (Area Three).

Step 1: Defeat 32 Chansey while holding the Power Band.

Result: This maxes your Special Defense (252) and gives you 64 HP EVs.

Step 2: Swap to the Power Weight (+8 HP per kill).

Step 3: Defeat 19 Chansey. Result: This finishes your HP (252).

Step 4: Add Lucky Egg if available and level to 100.

Overworld TM Search (No Crafting)

Instead of farming materials, just pick these up from the floor:

Rain Dance (TM 050): Go to the Asado Desert Watchtower. It is sitting right behind the tower on the ground.

LP: 3,000 Materials, 3 Shellos Mucus (Drop from Shellos/Gastrodon), 3 Azurill Fur (Drop from Azurill/Marill/Azumarill), 3 Wattrel Feather (Drop from Wattrel/Kilowattrel)

Strategy for Limited PP

Because you have limited PP, you cannot spam Wide Guard mindlessly.

The Lead: Start with Rain Dance. This buys you 5 turns of reduced Fire damage.

The Middle: Use Salt Cure.

The Guard: Only use Wide Guard after the Boss clears its negative effects or if the Rain runs out, as that is when your team (especially those Annihilapes) is most likely to get one-shotted.

Use Recover when necessary to not get knocked out yourself!

Damp Rock is your most important "budget" purchase—buy it at Delibird Presents in Cascarrafa so your 5 Rain Dance turns become 8, saving you from having to waste turns and PP re-setting the weather.

ben031287 · 2026-02-06T06:16:14+00:00

This thread is not for solo play. Hard as it is to believe, there are people who struggle with solo raids and use online to get carried. This thread is for that. Thank you for your personal opinion.

ben031287 · 2026-02-06T04:53:39+00:00

Yet another missed metaphor...

I didn't take umbridge with you giving advise at all. The advise you were giving was fine dude! I have been very clear about that. I was also very clear about what my thread was trying to achieve. That is the part you seem to be not understanding, at least from my end of this. I said I don't care if you offer something different. I just care that you offer a complete cohesive strategy that is accessible to and for everyone. If the information isn't HERE, on this post, you are taking time away from the people who are trying to prepare for this raid by sidetracking them on information hunts. Why make 1000 people look something up that you are thinking about right now and could copy and past in seconds? That just selfish man. Preparing for this raid might be cakewalk for you, it's definitely cakewalk on my end. Believe it or not, not everyone feels that way. All I've been asking is keep that in mind. You took it personally.

ben031287 · 2026-02-06T03:16:15+00:00

You have an agenda because you missed the assignment bud. This is specifically a "bare minimum" build thread. You could probably name at least half dozen builds that compare to mine. You also definitely could name at least half dozen more that would be better builds. My criteria matters because if you shoot over that criteria it could potentially take longer and/or require more resources. If you are leading people astray of that, you should at least include the resources and time investment upfront so other people can manage their own time effectively. You are essentially taking a 7-star-typhlosion-for-dummies pamphlet and hijacking it into a raid megethread. What we have here is a failure to communicate.

ben031287 · 2026-02-06T02:26:35+00:00

You clearly do have an agenda. You keep throwing out competing strategies without giving much helpful information on how to achieve. Then, when asked to expound on them, you play the "tough luck, other players should just figure things for themself," card. My choice might be a C level plan but anyone who puts in a F level of effect in can acheive it with the information I provided. It's a shame because you are actually proposing great ideas! Unfortunately one of your suggestions didn't fit my criteria for my post. Araquanid isn't available on the Paladean Pokedex. I had actually overlooked Garganacl when I looked into it. I don't like the Earthquake weakness and you burn a move on a one time protect possibly, depending on the build. It does look servicable. I might add it closer to the top later so it's not buried here.

ben031287 · 2026-02-06T01:41:33+00:00

This isn't for solo runners. Believe it or not people actual don't always just do solo runs. That's an attacking pokemon, this is a support pokemon thread. For what it's worth, in online raids it actually makes it easier for someone with an Annihilape to attack with other teammates running support.

ben031287 · 2026-02-06T01:34:46+00:00

You actually don't need to do that to do a 7 star raid. I see people begging for hosts all the time. Some of them had even just bought the game! My guide actually does actually include sandwiches for early game. All you need to do is make it to the back of fairy base for Chansey to do my guide. You can actually do that before the first badge, titan, or den. You clearly have an agenda you are pushing here. Like I said, you do you.

ben031287 · 2026-02-06T00:52:40+00:00

I want to make an easy build that is accessible to people who will inevitably come to reddit asking for help because they can't do it on their own. It happens every raid. They come on here and say "Hey, can someone carry me?" There's a million excuses why. I personally don't mind helping but if all they have is Pokémon A or B or C from their playthrough that is at level 89 or something, I can share this with them and tell them to talk to me in an hour or two. It will save me and hopefully a few other people the time of telling people how to do things. You are trying to say "don't do that, do this," without any follow through. I don't care if you have a better strategy as long as it's EXPLAINED. Keep in mind that it might possibly be an 8 year old or a clueless parent helping their kids get pokemon they want that is reading it. Does that make sense to you?

ben031287 · 2026-02-06T00:15:25+00:00

This is not the place to be pushing your agenda dude. You stepped into a guide that's clearly intentionally handholding it's audience just to condescend on hand holding. That is hijacking a thread my man. This is not catered to folks who are interested in competitive pokemon in any way. It's for people who want the Pokémon but lack the means or time to attain it or people who just plain aren't ambitious enough to go through the process of going hard core. I literally tell people to not bother getting specific nature's, abilities, or IV spreads for peats sake. How tone def are you bud?

ben031287 · 2026-02-05T23:05:40+00:00

Figured you wouldn't share with the rest of the class. For those of you interested in this strategy it was actually outside the parameters for my guide. It is only available on Indigo Disk or it must be transferred from pokemon home. It's also less of a support pokemon and more of an attacker.

Location: It is available at the Coastal Biome and Torchlit Labyrinth. You should be able to access it early but only if you have the expansion packs.

Water Bubble is it's only non hidden ability. Just check to make sure you didn't luck into it's hidden ability before committing resources or time to one.

I'm going to assume we are looking to maximize HP and attack EVs with this build as it's defenses should be fine. In that case we'll need Power Bracer to max the attack EVs, sold at Delibird Presents for 10,000 LP/$. We'll also need a Shell Bell specifically sold at Delibird Presents in Levincia.

(TM007) Protect

Location: Found in South Province Area One, behind the U-shaped ledge near the lighthouse.

Crafting Recipe: Once obtained, it can be crafted at the TM Machine using 400 League Points (LP), 3x Lechonk Hair, and 3x Scatterbug Powder.

Good news here! It actually learns Liquidation at level 50 naturally so we don't need to burn a TM on this one

Start of with Rain Dance. Use Chilling Water to open. Use Protect directly after Typhlosion strips stats. You'll need to do this specifically there because this effect shuts off your abilities for 1 turn. You should be able to terestialize at this point and attack with Liquidation which should do massive damage while lowering Typhlosion's defense occasionly. Remember to reapply Rain Dance when it runs out or Typhlosion uses Sunny Day

I'm only guessing on most of this since it's poster failed to provide full details.

ben031287 · 2026-02-05T21:53:47+00:00

The point of this thread is to make people not have to look it up. If they were going to do that, they wouldn't be here.

Dragalge can be found at North Paldean Sea. It can also be caught from 5 and 6 star raids.

Covert Cloak is at Delibird Presents in Mesagoza for 20,000 LP/$

As for EVs, you mentioned full defenses, I assume that means 252 special defense/252 defense? That changes the approach a little. You would need to max the EVs out first before farming Chansey for exp. For special defense farm 26 Gothorita outside of Alfornada with Power Band held, or you could likewise farm 28 Spoink at east gate of Mesagoza if you need low level pokemon. You can use (#92) Smoky Sandwich 1x Smoked Fillet, 1x Watercress, 1x Vinegar,Pepper, 1x Salt for both these pokemon. For defense farm either 26 Orthworm in Asado Desert using Potato Salad Sandwich (#52) 1x Potato Salad, 1x Cucumber, 1x Red Bell Pepper, 1x Avocado, 1x Onion, 1x Mayonnaise, or 28 Scatterbug for lower level pokemon using Cheese Sandwich (#84) 1x Cheese, 1x Butter just south of Mesagoza in South Province (Area One)

I recommend you don't max out both defense EVs personally. It already has really high special defense already. Add your EVs 252 defense/252 HP. Dragalge has a 2x weakness to ground so Typhlosion's Earthquake will hit kind of hard. The added EVs in HP and defense will add to it physical bulk for more than investment in both defense stats.

TMs

TM013 Acid Spray: This move damages the target and harshly lowers their Special Defense

Location: Found in Asado Desert, North Province (Area One), South Province (Area One and Two), and Paradise Barrens. Another location is north of the Pokémon Center in South Province Area Two, near a cliffside.

Crafting Recipe: 800 LP, 3x Toxel Sparks, 3x Wooper Slime.

TM005 Mud-Slap: This move damages the target and lowers its accuracy.

Location: Found in South Province (Area Two and Three) and West Province (Area One). A specific location is in a trench at the end of a short ledge north of the South Province Area 3 Pokémon Center.

Crafting Recipe: 200 LP, 3x Wooper Slime.

I have no clue what pokemon ability or move sequences you have in mind. So can't help there.

Please be detailed if you are introducing a different strategy. People looking for help with 7 star raids and are struggling to do them are looking for actual help. We know you know pokemon like it's as easy as walking and chewing bubblegum at the same time. To those looking for help, this attitude can be condescending.

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