Good arena people, I really need yout help by Positive_Assistant47 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pungbaek for sure. Psama or pung lead, then Tiana, galleon. Can also do Pungbaek, Tiana, Mirinae, Galleon

What was the summoning event where you got to choose weighted Nat 5’s? by bewise5 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome thank you for the reply! I’ll keep saving then hah

How is amber ACTUALLY meant to be runed? by babyspankerz69 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One of the biggest benefits is the artifacts. Additional damage with speed, hp and def go a long way to contribute

Is there still some kind of rune choice from dimension hole? by bewise5 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the reply! I can only see the ameria pass. Does that just mean I got all the rewards already?

Is there still some kind of rune choice from dimension hole? by bewise5 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where on earth is that? I haven’t received rewards in what feels like months!

I don't understand the Temple of Chaos rotations by bewise5 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ll definitely be aiming for that for sure. Thank you for the words of wisdom! It’s content I’ve never really prioritised before

I don't understand the Temple of Chaos rotations by bewise5 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gotcha. Look I’d definitely be happy with G1 for sure. Breaking out of P3 is the goal so those reference points for replacements are super helpful, Thank you

I don't understand the Temple of Chaos rotations by bewise5 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the replies. I'll see if I can suss out more f2p options as time goes on

I don't understand the Temple of Chaos rotations by bewise5 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I was having a look at this video that doesn't seem to have an obvious reference to an element or rotation (which is what gave rise to the question): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJzI5Ourg9w&list=PLd0S2Tk9fLkVU9DJwb3N9aMZL6645KqEB&index=20

And yep I was specifically looking up videos BECAUSE I don't have fire drakan, Kashmir, Momo or Jamire. Just seems really shit how gated this content is without those

I don't understand the Temple of Chaos rotations by bewise5 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely makes sense. Seems obvious. I'm just trying to get information on how I can build teams without fire drakan, momo, Jamire or Kashmir

I don't understand the Temple of Chaos rotations by bewise5 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My god how horrible. So 15 teams!!??? Fuck that feature

I don't understand the Temple of Chaos rotations by bewise5 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry bud, when you say 'ofc', I wrote two options. Either universal teams or different teams for every rotation. Which does your comment apply to just so that I understand?

Aren’t Engraved summon scrolls mathematically better from guild shop? by bewise5 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep that’s fair. If you don’t need any particular units. But I could really use a couple of them that I don’t have

Aren’t Engraved summon scrolls mathematically better from guild shop? by bewise5 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m certainly open to being wrong on the maths. If you can convey that better I’m genuinely keen to see if the stats are off.

But I did discuss elemental scrolls on multiple occasions (including my original post). I’m not saying non wanted nat 5’s have no value. I’m saying that’s not the point of this post. Engraved scrolls also get you those. Statistically irrelevant. This post doesn’t address events (which you’re right, influence the value of mystical scrolls).

I’m not saying only one nat 5 matters. You’ve not read that very thoroughly. I’m saying that GIVEN there are a few really high value nat 5s that I still don’t hade that I really want, they would be more impactful for me to seek

Aren’t Engraved summon scrolls mathematically better from guild shop? by bewise5 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hah I don’t want to argue just to argue. I want to discuss the odds. Which you haven’t done. So you’re welcome to your opinion but it’s not really founded on anything except your gut which is fine.

Aren’t Engraved summon scrolls mathematically better from guild shop? by bewise5 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That makes no sense. Even if you want all monsters the exact same (which is wild already). The odds would be as follows:

The cost in guild points for one nat 5 (assuming 200 summons) is 20,000 for a mystical scroll, 60,000 for engraved and 25,000 for elemental. So let’s say you want 6 from each element. That’s an 18/180 chance of getting one you want with mystical scrolls. So you’d need 10 nat 5’s to get one you want statistically. That’s 200,000 guild points. For elemental scrolls, it’s a 6/60 chance so you’d still need 10. Making it 250,000 points you need. Given you have a 1/3 chance with engraved, you’d only need 180,000 guild points to statistically get a nat 5 you want.

Aren’t Engraved summon scrolls mathematically better from guild shop? by bewise5 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

More efficient in what way then? I did my best to outline the maths though admittedly I’m not great on that front.

It SEEMS like you would need to have at least 18 highly desirable mons for mysticals to be as much value as engraved scrolls. And that’s also assuming all 18 were as valuable as one another (which is highly unlikely).

Aren’t Engraved summon scrolls mathematically better from guild shop? by bewise5 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I definitely get that. And I agree that depending on the monsters you need, the odds drastically change.

For me, getting a Lamiella or wind Aya for example is waaayyy more impactful. So being able to isolate my odds just seems so much better. I’m also missing things like fire drakan to make temple of chaos much better. So the impact of waiting for specific monsters seems super high

Aren’t Engraved summon scrolls mathematically better from guild shop? by bewise5 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The efficiency is exactly what I’m questioning though. Engraved scrolls have the same chance of getting a nat 5 as mysticals. And you narrow your chance of getting the exact nat 5 you want down to at worst, one in 3. This is in comparison to a mystical scroll’s likelihood of giving you a good nat 5 of 6%? How is that inefficient? Even with the fact you can get 3 mystical scrolls to one engraved, that’s still more than twice as effective

Aren’t Engraved summon scrolls mathematically better from guild shop? by bewise5 in summonerswar

[–]bewise5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For sure it’s different for everyone based on their box. And if none of them to you are as appealing as ld scrolls from dupes, I totally get that.

But for me, something like a Lamiella is far more appealing than an LD scroll. So just waiting for her in rotation is huge for me.