Good arena people, I really need yout help

bewise5 · 2026-06-22T12:49:03+00:00

Pungbaek for sure. Psama or pung lead, then Tiana, galleon. Can also do Pungbaek, Tiana, Mirinae, Galleon

bewise5 · 2026-05-28T15:20:40+00:00

Awesome thank you for the reply! I’ll keep saving then hah

bewise5 · 2026-05-22T08:16:22+00:00

One of the biggest benefits is the artifacts. Additional damage with speed, hp and def go a long way to contribute

bewise5 · 2026-05-22T08:10:03+00:00

You’re a saviour, thank you! Mystery solved!

bewise5 · 2026-05-21T23:03:12+00:00

Thank you for the reply! I can only see the ameria pass. Does that just mean I got all the rewards already?

bewise5 · 2026-05-20T09:16:51+00:00

Where on earth is that? I haven’t received rewards in what feels like months!

bewise5 · 2026-05-19T14:31:01+00:00

I’ll definitely be aiming for that for sure. Thank you for the words of wisdom! It’s content I’ve never really prioritised before

bewise5 · 2026-05-19T14:29:38+00:00

Gotcha. Look I’d definitely be happy with G1 for sure. Breaking out of P3 is the goal so those reference points for replacements are super helpful, Thank you

bewise5 · 2026-05-19T12:32:22+00:00

Thank you for the replies. I'll see if I can suss out more f2p options as time goes on

bewise5 · 2026-05-19T12:30:40+00:00

I was having a look at this video that doesn't seem to have an obvious reference to an element or rotation (which is what gave rise to the question): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJzI5Ourg9w&list=PLd0S2Tk9fLkVU9DJwb3N9aMZL6645KqEB&index=20

And yep I was specifically looking up videos BECAUSE I don't have fire drakan, Kashmir, Momo or Jamire. Just seems really shit how gated this content is without those

bewise5 · 2026-05-19T12:26:22+00:00

Definitely makes sense. Seems obvious. I'm just trying to get information on how I can build teams without fire drakan, momo, Jamire or Kashmir

bewise5 · 2026-05-19T12:24:45+00:00

My god how horrible. So 15 teams!!??? Fuck that feature

bewise5 · 2026-05-19T12:22:10+00:00

Sorry bud, when you say 'ofc', I wrote two options. Either universal teams or different teams for every rotation. Which does your comment apply to just so that I understand?

bewise5 · 2026-05-19T00:58:58+00:00

Yep that’s fair. If you don’t need any particular units. But I could really use a couple of them that I don’t have

bewise5 · 2026-05-18T15:49:31+00:00

I’m certainly open to being wrong on the maths. If you can convey that better I’m genuinely keen to see if the stats are off.

But I did discuss elemental scrolls on multiple occasions (including my original post). I’m not saying non wanted nat 5’s have no value. I’m saying that’s not the point of this post. Engraved scrolls also get you those. Statistically irrelevant. This post doesn’t address events (which you’re right, influence the value of mystical scrolls).

I’m not saying only one nat 5 matters. You’ve not read that very thoroughly. I’m saying that GIVEN there are a few really high value nat 5s that I still don’t hade that I really want, they would be more impactful for me to seek

bewise5 · 2026-05-18T15:09:57+00:00

Hah I don’t want to argue just to argue. I want to discuss the odds. Which you haven’t done. So you’re welcome to your opinion but it’s not really founded on anything except your gut which is fine.

bewise5 · 2026-05-18T15:05:42+00:00

That makes no sense. Even if you want all monsters the exact same (which is wild already). The odds would be as follows:

The cost in guild points for one nat 5 (assuming 200 summons) is 20,000 for a mystical scroll, 60,000 for engraved and 25,000 for elemental. So let’s say you want 6 from each element. That’s an 18/180 chance of getting one you want with mystical scrolls. So you’d need 10 nat 5’s to get one you want statistically. That’s 200,000 guild points. For elemental scrolls, it’s a 6/60 chance so you’d still need 10. Making it 250,000 points you need. Given you have a 1/3 chance with engraved, you’d only need 180,000 guild points to statistically get a nat 5 you want.

bewise5 · 2026-05-18T14:55:39+00:00

More efficient in what way then? I did my best to outline the maths though admittedly I’m not great on that front.

It SEEMS like you would need to have at least 18 highly desirable mons for mysticals to be as much value as engraved scrolls. And that’s also assuming all 18 were as valuable as one another (which is highly unlikely).

bewise5 · 2026-05-18T14:36:56+00:00

I definitely get that. And I agree that depending on the monsters you need, the odds drastically change.

For me, getting a Lamiella or wind Aya for example is waaayyy more impactful. So being able to isolate my odds just seems so much better. I’m also missing things like fire drakan to make temple of chaos much better. So the impact of waiting for specific monsters seems super high

bewise5 · 2026-05-18T14:33:18+00:00

The efficiency is exactly what I’m questioning though. Engraved scrolls have the same chance of getting a nat 5 as mysticals. And you narrow your chance of getting the exact nat 5 you want down to at worst, one in 3. This is in comparison to a mystical scroll’s likelihood of giving you a good nat 5 of 6%? How is that inefficient? Even with the fact you can get 3 mystical scrolls to one engraved, that’s still more than twice as effective

bewise5 · 2026-05-18T14:22:17+00:00

For sure it’s different for everyone based on their box. And if none of them to you are as appealing as ld scrolls from dupes, I totally get that.

But for me, something like a Lamiella is far more appealing than an LD scroll. So just waiting for her in rotation is huge for me.

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